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Mallow had a draw for their pitches when they closed for a few years in the 90's.
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Wasnt it the case soapp that Mallow was being done up,stands were being built etc and it was always the case that it was going to reopen when work was complete.Therefore the existing bookies had a better case for retaining their seniorities,but Tralee for example isnt being done up and were it to reinvent itself under an independent consortium then i would fear for any bookie that had a pitch there when it closed.Dundalk was closed for four or five years and it looked like it was never going to open again,until local involvement and investment got it up and running.If it was up to HRI solely,then it would never have reopened again,neither would it have opened if it was left up to the bookmakers association.There was a good few years in the planning and the building of this racecourse,more than enough time to resolve the matter involved,but the INBA decide to leave it until the last few weeks and by then it was too late.
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are the pitches valued any higher now than they would have been when the units were originally bought? Take say this new property tax, the idea is that people who built their houses 50 odd years ago and now avail of all of the services that have been built since, new roads, shops schools, these have all added value to their house, but they haven't paid any tax on this added value.
So now here in Dundalk, we have this new 'stadium', built with public money, does this mean the pitches are now worth more than when they were originally bought and wouldn't the bookies be availing of the new service that is the stadium. Now I realsie turnover is way down on course generally, but is this the way that the other side are coming at it, we built a stadium adding value to your pitches so pay? Just thought there was an interesting parallel there, but I'm not saying it's the fairest approach, I just wondered was it a question that was raised. Or is it automatic that as turnover is down, pitches are worth less, end off. Cheers |
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MINCER,i have friends who,s families have been in on course bookmaking for 2 or 3 generations and the seniorities has and still is in the their family,thats the only interest i have,it fascinates me how the whole thing works.After futher probing i have learned that the head of the H.R.I.chanced his arm to try and justify his fat salary has done a u turn and admitted they were wrong and that the pitch rules and regulations should have been adhered to at the time and they advised Dundalk wrongly,they have tried to distance them selfs from the whole debacle leaving Dundalk to fight on their own. Dundalk now maintain that they were not a member of the A.I.R.until after the opening night.All racecourses in Ireland with the exception of the 2 in the North(i would not be sure of) are members of the A.I.R.and are bound by rules and regulations that are set out between and agreed by H.R.I.,A.I.R.and the I.N.B.A.and no one body can alter or change them without consent of all three parties.These were the rules in place before Dundalk opened and has since been confirmed by all three parties.Should a similar situation arise in the future the seniorites will be recognised.For instance if the new place in Tipperary gets built,Thurles has said it will close and give its fixtures to them, the Thurles seniorities will be used to fill the betting ring.Regarding Limerick the same pitch rules and regulations were in place,why would the same pool of bookmakers bid on seniorities they already owned.Their was 100 seniorities at the time and each gave a contribution of €500 which i feel was a generous gesture.Speaking of clowns dundalk are left fighting a court case all alone with no H.R.I. or A.I.R. backing,could just turn into a costly exercise,as all the bookmakers can lose is their seniorities.As things transpired i dont think many of the bookmakers involved would return to the track.(my opinion only).The I.N.B.A. did not instruct their members to not do business with the dundalk dozen as it would be ILLEGAL and would have left them open for legal action to be taken against them.Like i stated before it was an individual decision by each bookmaker.Terry Rogers nephew has his seniority from the phoenix park and he knows how to work the computer.You can also tell your friend who has a seniority at tralee that he wont be getting a 3 bedroomed house as the land is only zoned for commercial build.Their can only be one winner in the court case,and YES i would like to see my friends win.GOOD LUCK TO BOTH DUNDALK AND THE BOOKMAKERS IN THE COURT CASE.
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Will be any new bookies in Dundalk tonite?
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