NY Giants for the superbowl

Don't bother with the handicap imo, just hammer them straight, i can't understand what the Patriots are favs. Only for a dropped catch and that sack of sh|t Cuntliff they would of been out last night.

The match odds are 2.34 and both are worth a shot with the +3 worth a large punt imo 10/11 or better. Giants are amazing value

very good d..Jason Pierre Paul MVP of the world at the moment unstopable. Can't wait for the match agree. Should be tied no handicap on this one. 50.50 call

I hear ya Premier and i clicked on post by accident the first time as i meant to mention the match odds were a bet, but i'm taking the points while they're on offer as well as the moneyline as i don't think they'll near such a  key number on the sunday of the superbowl. The giants beat the Pats in the regular season without a number of players and that was in New England. The Pats were lucky last night while the Giants have gone to Green Bay and San Fran 2 of the strongest home teams and won, it's very impressive. The line is inflated due to the Brady factor imo.

Brady was awful last night....the tight end is injured. Pats don't have any wide receiver with serious gas like davis last night. Everyway you look at it the Jets will do this pats offense.

I don't think it's 50-50 at all, i think Big Blue should be clear favs. In the playoffs the Patriots have beaten a woeful Broncos side and struggled past the Ravens last night (should of lost the game) both at home. On the other side the Giants have gone to Lambeau and Candlestick and beat both the Packers (awesome offense) and the 49ers (awesome D).
The Patriots D did alright in the 1st half last night stopping the run but where picked apart with ease in the 2nd half imo and they where absolutely blessed to win. I cannot see how the Patriots D will spot Eli and the Giants offense and i can't see the Giants D doing a decent job against the Patriots.
Added to all that if Gronkoski is not fully fit that is a massive loss to the Patriots offense.

*can see the Giants D doing a decent job against the Patriots*

We'll see a PK line on the day is my forecast with a good chance GMen being the fav. How the public bet is important to where the line will be, but i think there is another evidence to suggest to most people that the Giants are great value and if i'm right we'll could see Giants as the favs. Also Eli beating Brady in the superbowl a few years ago will be fresh in people's mind for this re-match.

The Giants were 9-7 in the regular season and for two shocking Punt return errors saved them in the end against an decent 49ers but it wasn't mind blowing from the Giants by any means.

The Patriots defense which has been awful this year held well enough last night, it aint the Brady of 4 years ago but he is still a fine player, If you think you could get 10/11 Patriots on the day I think it's a cracking bet.

What happened in the regular season has nil importance in my opinion. In 2008 the Giants got into the playoffs as a wildcard where as the Patriots had gone 16-0. As with 2008 this year the Giants have got hot when it matters.

Squigs you get very close to that if you don't get it imo, i would hold off for the Pats as long as possible. Problem with the Pats is their Defense and as you have said not Brady who may have been poor by his standards last night. I think i am right in saying they'll be the worst ranked Defense in the history of the superbowl and in the regular were season ranked 31st of 32 teams. You can say the GMen were only 9-7 in reg season but one of those wins was in New England v the Pats with players missing. Pats division was a weaker one and up to last night they had not beat a team with a winning record and i don't think many would argue that they didn't get the rub of the green v Baltimore. Hopefully it will be a good night for all enjoying a few cans and eating rubbish.

I was hoping the Brady/Belichick factor
would make the line a point or two higher.
Think straight money line on NY will do.
And ill be paying close Attention
to the pats injury reports and lads sitting out practice.
There was talk Brady missed some practice last week
and nobody believed a word of it.
Maybe it was just an off night
but maybe there was something not right there.
I had to rewind the pick towards Edelman
coz i couldnt believe even Tom thought he could fit it in there. Unless he was just unsighted but very un-Brady like.
The extra week will help but if Gronk is out thats massive. The only deep threat they have is Chad Ocho
and hes hardly clocking up game time!

TBH I wanted the 49ers and Ravens with the Harbaugh brothers coaching against each other in the big one.

Certainly can't remember a defense as bad as the Pats getting to a Superbowl admittedly, it will be good though and I won't be placing a massive wager on them either way.

I wanted the Ravens too will never forgive Cuntliff for that kick


Early reports say Gronkowski will play in the Superbowl despite the injury, i suppose it depends how mobile he will be come the day

As bad a night as Brady had Eli has just as bad. Some of his passing was woeful and was constantly caught in the pocket...i knw 49ers have a great d but at times he looked very average. Eli was superb at Green Bay and you would have to think that weather was a factor for the technician. Jets are on a huge roll now, there confidence is sky high. No way will Pat D destroy these lads like the 49ers did. The Defensive line won't hold the strong running game with that big beast making 5 yards every time. Pats secondary is poor as well.

I can really see how the Pats win this tbh...unless Brady and the tight end have a monster game as well as Hernandez but the chance of all 3 coming good are very remote. On reflection giants should be favorites.

Ruby their the Giants not the Jets.

That Cundiff hook was bad alright.

And id be surprised if gronkowski
didnt play. he'll have tape up to his
knees if it isnt 100%.
Id love to see a pic of his ankle this
morning. id say its like a balloon!

Bad typo there

if yr a pats backer here surely yr a brady mvp backer

Looking forward to this, should be a cracker. Everybody seem to be betting the Giants.

Wildman's mummy and daddy told him he can wait up to see the first half.

Patriots hear

New England Win 8/11
New England -3 21/20
MVP Tom Brady 5/4
New England - New England HT-FT 11/8
New England by 13-18 7/1
1st Half Handicap New England -1 91/100
1st Half Match Betting New England 4/5

All with spoils.

Giants 5-4
Giants 7=12 Margin 13-2
Ballard 20-1 First TD
JPP  MVP 50-1

Now time for a beer

Know nothing about this sport, so am following the shrewdies. Giants win and the handicap also.

Me neither, have NYG to score first and to win!!

Bit of luck there Mr T !!

This game hurts my head!

Disaster for Giants backers, totally dominated the 1st half and end up behind. 2 huge pens stopped their last 2 drives and now the Pats receive 2nd half

Madge is looking well!

The Giants need a quick 3 and out here big time!
Get this brady lad off the field.

And was just thinking the same Mr T.
53 and probably would :-)
And by probably i mean definitley!!!!

Ha ha, agreed and one guess who'd be calling the shots!!!

giants fans don't panic,rem ire-wlaes in rugby today

Time for bed me thinks!

2n the red zone and they call a run?? WTF are they at?

2nd and 8

nicely green now but the big chunk is still on The Giants

C'mon Big Blue!!!

Sweet!

What a sport, give me the NFL any day over the non contact pansy soccer can't beat the NFL - different class!!

Great result, not sure i enjoyed the game with such a large punt but.....

Cheers to Rocketfingers, Premier & all the other shrewdies who put this up, as I have no clue at all about this, will pay for my golf bets this week.

The Giants got 'hot' at the right time and fully deserved their victory. Going into week 16 they had to win every game if they where to be champions and they done so. Beat the Jets in week 16, beat the Cowgirls in week 17 and then onto the playoffs thrashed the Falcons, went to Lambeau and beat the Packers and then to Candlestick and beat the 49ers before beating the Pats in the Superbowl. Not a bad achievement that and how good is Eli Manning down the stretch? To think he was being criticised at the start of the season and he had to defend himself and maybe thought he was crazy when he claimed he was an elite QB, well that's twice he has now done the Pats down the stretch in a Superbowl. He has turned into a real top class QB and he actually gets better the more pressure he is under.

no point thanking Rocket thank Tom Brady for failing to see the big picture, he should have managed that game out, Giants dwn to one TO, just over 4 mins on the clock, great field position and what does he do throws the ball (Fair enof welker should have caught it) Instead of running it and burning the clock, another set of downs would have been game, he did it against Baltimore too and got away with it, ego got the better of him.

Wexler should have caught that pass, but Pats were 2nd and 11 at the time and had avg 4.3 yds/rush so they had to throw it. Giants were the better team imo and deserved their win they out gained the Pats in yards both with the rush and passing and also on the amount of first downs and i don't think they played that well.

Giants controlled the clock (15 mins more possession than Pats) but still Brady had a minute at the end of the game to win it. You need to be winning games easier than that when you have the ball for a full quarter more than the opposition.

Great game though

Brady made a rookie error with the safety, he knew what he was takaing a risk, they gave up 9 points on that, Giants got all the breaks, recovered 3 of their own fumbles, mis managed the play clock twice and got away with it, I hear what your saying but my opinion is that Brady should have managed that game out, at 2nd and 11 he did'nt need 30 yards from the play, he always wants it to look good.

Going back to Brady's 3 SB wins they grinded them out the ugly way for the most part (Bar the Carolina final where they won a shot out).

The great thing about american sports is that the players and coaches lose games not the officials unlike what we have to put up with on this side of the world.

Yes they got the rub of the green recovering their fumbles and the Welker drop but in the first half 2 stupid pens stopped them getting big 1st downs that more than likely would of led to points. Then in the 4th they should of got a pass interference call (can't remember who on) but it was not called, Coughlan was livid about it.

The Giants where simply the better team in my opinion, the odds where totally wrong pre match in my opinion (which i said, not aftertiming) and i think it is desperate harsh blaming defeat for the Pats on Brady.

On the play where he threw the interception he was lucky to not get stripped of the ball by the Giants D and done well to get away from them, he then threw the ball long and let's be honest who here expected Chase Blackburn to come down with the ball ahead of Gronkowski. As for the 2nd and 11, it was Welker's fault, he clearly should of made the catch (as should Hernandez and others on the last drive).

wd rocket.

Brady's no Joe Montana.....