Gonna need a minor miracle to get the middles up at this stage. Aussies starting to get to grips a bit more by the looks of it

backed ireland to win at half time and score the first goal.Debating if its the time to reinvest some profits on Aussies on the cap.

B356 were going +/- 23.5pts there on the handicap. PP +/- 30.5pts.

We have another middle going.........

B356 26.5 now

IS GALVIN HALF ELF? ONE STRAIGHT EAR ONE ELF LIKE ONE

30.5 looks very big. Just a question if aussies can score better with the liklihood of more possession this half.

gonna wait to back the caps during this quarter. always better to back in game time in these markets.

Is this time added on?? Clock still running....good for unders??

Betting aside, hope he is ok. Looked nasty

My h'cap middler now 23.5  32, with 30 being jackpot.
Total points middler 110.5  117.5

There is still a pointe middler there, 110.5  115.5

You were right to close out. Looks like no joy for me today.

WD RF if you lumped on Ireland

Surely the Aussies have better players than these .  Very few of them strike me as footballers .

Or maybe we just have our best selection out there . Apart from a bit of messing at the back we were way better and in complete control .

Good stuff Kido. You got there in the end.

Cheers paddletoe.

Think will wait until inplay next week, very open game and so possible points variance is too high.

Tadhg Kennelly had some game...he is a gifted talent and has some engine on him. If Kerry get him back again they will take stopping...FACT

Must be a restricted word , ji** , as in jazz .  ????

Donaghy was playing for Kerry this year. How could kenneley and Walsh have played for Kerry when they play a different sport. Meaningless statement. Might as well say Cork would be a better team if Roy Keane played gaelic instead of soccer.

Thought you had ameliorated , Paddletoe .  But obviously not .

Paddletoe, I presume you know the history of Kennelly and Walsh .  Both already have All Ireland medals in Kerry shirts . A 20 hour plane trip and agreement from their team mates is all they ever will need to pull on the jersey again if they are fit and willing . Pretty obvious that to most sensible people . Mentioning Keano and BOD is fatuous .

Next to my own county I would be a Kerry supporter , because in my lifetime they have consistently played the best football of any county in Ireland , and I always praise and buy quality . Plus I have holidayed in Kerry every year since 1970 when I discovered it first . Lots of friend and contacts ( including GAA circles ) there .

Nothing against the Dubs winning this year , glad to see them getting reward for a lot of effort recently .  Good team , but just an observation that Walsh and Kennelly would have put Kerry in the winners enclosure this year , ensuring a degree of all time status -- getting them near Jacko and co .

Paddletoe , you are expert at trying to misconstrue fairly simple ideas and put words into peoples mouths . In simple terms , if either or both wanted to play for Kerry at whatever stage  they could , there is no rule says they cannot . It is only a question of acceptability by team mates and management that would bring about such a scenario .

I know one lady who flies back and forward  to Australia( first class , but she does represent a large pharmaceutical company ) at least once a month , so its not an unknown activity . Its no longer a 3 week boat journey as faced by the cricketing  Aussies in the forties sailing out of Freemantle to Southampton . Depends on budgets of course . Only need to travel once though unless seasons overlap . Where there is a will there is a way .

When I was involved with county football , one year the uni students opted out of National league , by agreement .  However without them the team struggled and faced relegation .  The players concerned were asked ( by the manager ) to recommence playing , but they were shrewder than the manager ( they always were ) , they insisted on a 100% (visible) vote from their team mates to return , which was agreed , they returned and they won all their remaining matches . Players aint stupid . And  a medal gained from sitting as a sub is better than a runners up medal . Plus people get injured .

Its not going to happen them returning , too much going for them away from these shores . Talking to a GAA contact locally last night , two of our traditionally strong clubs have EACH got 6 players away in Australia , either working or looking for work , they have had to amalgamate with a neighbouring club to field teams in certain categories . In one GAA team in USA the vast percentage of the players in one team I have heard about there come from the same village/ townland in Kerry .  Donegal is probably the hardest hit by emigration , must be fantastic work going on there to field seriously competitive senior team ( even if we dont enjoy their style of football ). More power to those keeping the ship afloat , but it must be hard work .

Paddletoe , my post just expressed "doubts" about how Dublin would have fared against a Kerry line up which included Walsh and Kennelly . I have no doubt that the betting would have been 1.4 instead of 1.7 Kerry before the match as both of these players have performed very well any time they wore the green and gold . Both from families steeped in skill and tradition , football wise . Odds dont always turn into facts  , we all know that . As Damon Runyon said "the race is not always to the swift and brave , but thats the way to bet ".

Not going to happen I suspect given some of the hard economic  facts which confront all the people on this island . The O'Neill saga I believe was a one off , but I am not as conversant with the "personalities " involved as you are , although I do have grapevine reportage occasionally  , but not interested enough to tune in normally . One person I know manages a high profile team in Tyrone , and he does not charge them he tells me .  No reason to doubt him , but the guy(s) managing most of the teams nowadays are generally not just in it for the love of the game . My club has had several fairly high profile managers in last 25 years or so since I managed them way back in the eighties ( never got or sought a penny ) , gone from Division 1 to Division 3 despite being probably one of the biggest ( in membership anyway ) in Ulster .

Size isn't everything albeit in the eighties we had 5 players who between them have  10 All-Ireland  senior medals to their credit . The coaching then such as it was  though was essentially one on one , personal development it might be termed , but the schools and the universities were doing a brilliant job , we just polished any  diamonds . And picked the rest of the  team , and listened to the players . They were far better players than we were managers  , might always have been thus with a few notable exceptions .