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topfarrier
28 Sep 11 19:07
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I don't know a lot about Greyhounds but it seems i have acquired a dog.

Well actually i bought it for the wife as a birthday present.

It is only 5 months old and i take it that i will have to put it with somebody who rears or trains greyhounds.

I am based in Navan, Co.Meath and any help or advice would be appreciated.
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Report kido September 28, 2011 7:10 PM BST
im sure there's plenty of lads up your area rearing pups maybe enquire to someone close by you and when there reared then you can go looking for a professional trainer. get the rearing part organised first
Report topfarrier September 28, 2011 7:18 PM BST
Thanks for the reply Kido.
Report wildmanfromborneo September 28, 2011 7:20 PM BST
Kavvies your man,a dog expert who lives near you.
Report topfarrier September 28, 2011 7:23 PM BST
Thank you Wildman you are a gent.

Can you pm me his number?
Report workrider September 28, 2011 7:27 PM BST
mr murray's from that up that way ..if its a local trainer you're after i'd recommend two top class trainers ..who i had the pleasure of training greyhounds for me ..one is martin lanny who trains from his base near clane a really top guy who tells it like it is...the other is tina magrane who trains near kells another trainer to be trusted and also a lovely person to deal with ....hope that helps....
Report workrider September 28, 2011 7:34 PM BST
i think wildman means gantoo7...topfarrier...
Report topfarrier September 28, 2011 7:38 PM BST
Thank you workrider.

Actually i know Martin Lanny as he used to be a farrier.

Quite a good one to as it happens although i thought he was into the chiropractory side of Greyhounds?
Report workrider September 28, 2011 7:49 PM BST
he's magic at that as well....Laugh..yeah he was a farrier ..smashing bloke and one hell of a good trainer ....
Report kido September 28, 2011 7:49 PM BST
he could even rear the greyhound aswell for you
Report topfarrier September 28, 2011 7:54 PM BST
Thanks lads.

I'll know how to get hold of him.
Report workrider September 28, 2011 7:55 PM BST
i use to have mine reared in kildare but the guy has now given up ..theres a guy up near you who does them for little or nothing my advice is stay well away ..all you'll get back is dogs with brittle bones ...
Report topfarrier September 28, 2011 7:58 PM BST
I think there might be a lot lads like that around here Workrider.Laugh
Report GANT007 September 28, 2011 8:44 PM BST
Martin Lanney trains in Wilkinstown just a few miles outside Navan......I agree with Workrider, he is spot on.
To get it reared send it down to Martin Tucker, the dog will be well looked after and Martin talks straight.
I get the feeling you are new to this so another reason for going to Martin is he will school on the pup for you and have it ready at 15 months to go to your trainer......He will have it coming out of the boxes.......2 handslips and 2 blast out of the boxes at Longford.....the dog won't be schooled within an inch of his life......lightly schooled.
Friends of mine use him all the time........He is based in Lanesborough.....He charges €25 a week to rear and schooling €50 a week........only 8 weeks approx will be schooling.
Report workrider September 28, 2011 8:47 PM BST
gant you not rear a few yourself....?
Report topfarrier September 28, 2011 8:53 PM BST
Thank you Gant.

Most helpful.
Report GANT007 September 28, 2011 8:54 PM BST
We rear all our own and a few we sell as pups only......   Some lads are hard to listen to 24/7 so I will recommend Martin Tucker to them.
Report Rocketfingers September 28, 2011 8:58 PM BST
I'd love to get a dog for the craic but 2 things 1. i reckon easily get sent up like a kipper ! and 2. Very few trainers & tracks near me.
Report workrider September 28, 2011 8:58 PM BST
i know what you mean ....fair enough , just thought you reared  the odd one....
Report topfarrier September 28, 2011 9:05 PM BST
How can i contact him Gant?
Report GANT007 September 28, 2011 9:08 PM BST
043 3321525.
087 2280809.
Report topfarrier September 28, 2011 9:12 PM BST
Thanks again.
Report GANT007 September 28, 2011 9:15 PM BST
Let us know how you get on.
Report jungleboogie October 5, 2011 7:52 AM BST
when you have a dog in training & he gets injured for a couple of weeks,do trainers still charge full weekly fee?
Report workrider October 5, 2011 5:42 PM BST
YES...
Report GANT007 October 5, 2011 11:10 PM BST
More work would go into getting the injury sorted out than if the dog was injury free.
Report golferno1 October 5, 2011 11:48 PM BST
dont be giving your dog to martin tucker to rear mate.martin has far too many pups to look after and thats not a good thing when you want a pup reared properly.a pup needs to be handled played about with as this takes all nerves and shyness out of them.martin throws his pups in their feed and thats that for the day as hes so many to feed.you need to be looking for a rearer who has very little litters who will give the pups his time and make sure they get used to people handling them.the most important time in a pups life is the first 3 months,and the rearing of them.as for tina mcgrane and martin lanney i would,nt give them a jack russel if i thought anything of the pup.your in navan id recommend ian reilly,or olly bray.if you want to go up the road north a little id recommend craig kelly.
Report GANT007 October 6, 2011 12:26 AM BST
Who would you send the pup to rear and school?.....When you get a few open class dogs from a rearer you tend to go back.....Martin feeds breakfast and main meal to the pups...But sure each to their own....I'm sure Ian, Ollie or Craig would only take your pup in if it was doing open clocks and out if it wasn't.
Report golferno1 October 6, 2011 7:57 AM BST
craig ian and olly would take a cat if you were paying them.many a time iv seen the 3 mentioned with bad graders in their kennel.id send a pup to any rearer who tends to keep very few litters and who gives the pups the handling and attention needed.martin throws a bucket of grub into the pups and could,nt give a fiddlers fluck who eats or who dosent.as i said the first 3 months,and up to 12 months is the making and breaking of a dog or bitch.i read martins adverts on the dogs hes reared and id say theyre nothing special.maybe a few open class but no major competition winners.now a days people are breeding of bitches you would,nt give away hopeing they get a decent pup,which to me is wrong.my motto is if you breed **** you get ****.
Report MALAY October 6, 2011 11:35 AM BST
Send him down the country to a county with a decent train link, at least you'll have a few good trips down to visit him 3 or 4 times, even if he turns out useless.

Best thing about owning pups is the craic visiting, he'll probably turn out **** anyway.

Maria Byrne rears a very good dog the Dysert prefix. Times are so bad she'd probably take your fellah in.
Report GANT007 October 6, 2011 7:43 PM BST
Golferno1........Have you been to Martin Tuckers place or is it just shelbourne park terrace talk where all the knockers hang out............Maybe you can pass on the name of one of these rearers you speak about to the chap asking the question.........tell the man starting out something positive about the sport......Knocking people in the game proves to me you are a greyhound man.
Report golferno1 October 6, 2011 9:20 PM BST
GANNT im in dogs 35 years my family to many years to count back.iv seen martin tuckers place,and also had a litter reared by him.id rate mr fox from cork,damien mccann from antrim,donal oneil from tyrone,eddie wade from cashel,and the three i listed above.im putting this fellow straight,not like you who seems to be promoting martin tuckers facilities.is this the same martin who made a fool of himself on the radio saying he was a professional masterbater of dogs...lol that says it all for any a good greyhound judge.if you re read my posts point out to me the negativitey i have showed towards greyhound racing.i have told the man straight,and ive also helped in in finding 3 professional men from the meath area that would put martin to bottom of the que in the rearing of greyhounds.as iv said its all in the rearing,and if not done right forget about them at 12 months when you pick them up.GANT IF YOU NEED ANYMORE INFO ON THE RACING GREYHOUND ILL GIVE YOU A FEW TIPS..
Report GANT007 October 7, 2011 9:02 PM BST
You gave him the name of 3 trainers earlier the pup is only 5 months old......If I need ant tips on rearing or matings I will check you out...We have only 4 open racers at the moment and could do with a few more.........I am not promoting Martin Tucker only offering the chap my opinion but fair play to you for putting up a few names instead of slating someone you had a bad experience with......I have sent a nervous dog to Damien McCann and he is good at schooling them...Robbie Fox is actually in Limerick and I wouldn't recommend him but that's only my opinion......You said Ollie, Ian or Craig would train a cat for money........Ring up with a dog A3 or worse and I know what answer you would get...........THANK GOD WE ONLY REAR OUR OWN AND THE ODD FEW FOR THE LADS WHO BUY OFF US ON A REGULAR BASIS.
Report Rocketfingers October 7, 2011 9:10 PM BST
gant what would you pay for a reared dog mate?
Report GANT007 October 7, 2011 9:17 PM BST
Depends on the breeding, age and what's done with him.
To get him reared from 3 months to 12 months in or around €25 a week/€100 a month
Report MALAY October 7, 2011 9:22 PM BST
Robbie Fox different class to Tucker, rearing and people. Damien McCann great schooler
Report GANT007 October 7, 2011 9:29 PM BST
I often had tea in Robbies house.
Report MALAY October 7, 2011 9:50 PM BST
Surprised Anne never offered you a brandy or whiskey but if you dont like them maybe she got bad vibes, who cares ? you know the best rearer in Ireland, Tucker. LaughLaughLaugh

I'll tell Robert and the family you were asking for them.
Report GANT007 October 7, 2011 10:00 PM BST
Never said Tucker is the best rearer and I am not in the business of slating anyone....plenty will do that in the greyhound game but as you said....WHO CARES.
Report MALAY October 7, 2011 10:11 PM BST
Exactly mate there is a lot of very poor dogs from good rearing establishments.

Bad dogs from litters which contained very fast dogs.

No offence intended, Robert and Anne reared good and bad dogs for me.They are good people.

Good luck
Report GANT007 October 7, 2011 10:19 PM BST
None taken......We rear our own but friends of our had good luck with dogs out of Tuckers so keep going back.
Doctors differ and patients die and we all know how quirky greyhounds can be.
Report MALAY October 7, 2011 10:25 PM BST
all the best mate with yer hounds, its a very hard game, but the best game,

i'd still stand by maria byrne,even in hard times she wouldnt take outsider's pups

going back to opening post, the fellah should rear it himself, a bit of planning it will keep him fit, and he'l have a friend for life


rapid ranger was reared out a back garden
Report GANT007 October 7, 2011 10:37 PM BST
Many a good dog was reared out of the back garden......A man I know let his pup have 30 minutes in a gaa field morning and evening to run riot.....slept in a 6 x 4 garden shed with a small mesh pen.......open class and sold to Owen McK( dont want to name the dog) .....some lads think pups run around 24/7.
Report MALAY October 7, 2011 10:48 PM BST
it needs the dedication
but it's entirelly possible
and you can have a puppy leading at 5 month and still make grade, it depends what input,
its a myth pups need to be running about in packs kliing things, although its a bonus Blush
Report GANT007 October 7, 2011 11:03 PM BST
You can't beat an auld trip out into the wild with a litter running loose around you........you never know what might pop up again and again.......makes handslipping that bit rewarding.
Report workrider October 7, 2011 11:18 PM BST
take them out to a bog lads ...now that really enjoyable....just make sure theres no water about....i used to take mine down to ferbane on weekends and let them loose.....magic...
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