curragh tomorrow..

pity about the going, which rules a lot of the fancied horses in the oaks

what did you think of wow run at epsom...triump ?

Lyons horse to uphold the form is right wonky,you make it a two horse race do you?

WOW for me, will love the Curragh, I think I saw 3/1 about her when the market for this first opened about a month ago, with Powers I remember, I didn't take it as I didn't have the spare cash at the time, but it looks excellent now. I think she will win and easily enough at that, loads of scope. I'd love to see her go for the Ledger after this.

maybe if they allow her go on in front neill ..but she as a high head carrige and i dont like that in a horse....

Yeah 4/5 is very short, might get a bit of evens somewhere, you'll be surprised from what I've said, but I actually won't be backing her.

Yes, I noticed that at Epsom as well, I backed her and was gobsmacked that she didn't go by.

There may well be some substance to your Epsom impressions of WoW workrider as I couldn't believe she didn't go by the longtime leader who got a cute ride.......I would say though that KF was not at his best on her, though he did say afterwards that she was hanging on the camber.....being by Kingmambo will she be ok on softish ground...also driftin a bit on here...I just couldn't back Godolphin as  they are not reaaly firing as they can do...Bolger has ground concerns for Bamimpire.....it will surely be a stronly run race and that might find out Dancing Rain, Epsom being a fast track suited her ....i guess KF is finished with Ballydoyl as he is over 2moro and its Ryan on WoW.....once we dont get 2much rain hard to see past WoW my nap... though I also like Bondage...with Nina.....up

i was Seething she didnt win at Epsom,had a big bet on her
im willing to give her the benefit of the doubt as the pace of the race in the oaks was farcical,her price is terrible though so i wont be backing her tomorrow,GL

Laughing Lashes. Booooom

poor aul wonky... as clueless as ever. this fool is getting worse... wonks, what happened 6 weeks ago has absolutely no bearing on what happens in the future...

COMPRENDEZ????????????????????

i heard that the boys of ballydoyle are siding with JP Murtagh in the oaks.

Personally I think Blue Bunting is a great bet.

Willing to take a chance on Exodus as the supposed second string of Aidan O'Brien's in the Ladies Derby - was an impressive winner of his Maiden at Navan last season and was thought good enough to contest the Criterium De Saint-Cloud last November.  He's been highly tried thus far this season when contesting two Group 3's at Leopardstown - there's no great shame in being beaten by Dunboyne Express in a fairly tactical affair FTO or by the filly Banimpire in the Ballysax.  He should appreciate the step up in trip and he has a useful jockey booked in the shape of Jane Mangan (a 20/1 winner and a 40/1 second from only a handful of rides under rules - also won a couple of P2P's) who's looked fairly useful to me on the limited evidence available thus far.

Holding out for some 14/1 here mind but looks worth an each-way bet [:)]

i see the coward thicko was on with his usual rubbish ...thickster either but up or shut up ..what with calling all and sundry mugs over on the racing forum yesterday ..even littleman , robo , aka mincer, will be giving you the cold shoulder ..then what will you do for laughs .....you can always look into the mirror i suppose .......

sorry workrider, i missed your call last night

i was going to ask you to have £100 on kingo and £200 on rjky .....stayed in a little virus , son asked me to drop him to the pub last night ..came out to the car this morning had a punture and needed a new wheel ....how did you do yourself.....?

one bet for me today marreck e/w in the 4:50 great draw. ive seem to miss the value tho,yes workrider i seen the little fool making a dope again of himself on the racing forum

i didn't even have me phone with me, left it at home as i was rushing out and watching the golf
always the way mate, pity i may have felt like a winner then

How does a horse get a puncture?,is it just that he was lame after being tied up to the pub door all night

any luck yourself   ? ....what a run from uncle eoin eh....

Was down early bet Freedom Marconi in the 1st W/O 2 dogs not 5 though and then bet Erins Romoe W/O Tyrur Lucky beat a SH for 2nd. Has a lump on Tyrur Henry @ 6/4 to get me ahead but ended up about a monkey down due to Melodys Royal

1st losing night out there in quite a while, didn't enjot it hopefully back to form during the week

i thought your banker would have been rdjfk....i bet miss barry is grateful for the reprive....

Well done wonks on your two winners,shame the races were over when you tipped us AGAIN

That didn't look great by Murtagh there,he seemed content to park his horse behind a back marker.

Well called workrider great win I had no bet as I couldn't go in again on WoW after Epsom.......fran dropped his whip,very poor and good old Ted defending the indefensible.....

i only had a wee £30on for an interest ...i think wow had every chance ..maybe shes a bit of a thinker ....?

Well done wr,Banimpire as tough as they come and would have probably outbattled the winner if it didn't challenge out so wide.

i agree a smashing filly punchestown  as tough as nails as well...

workrider,what did you make of the Mangan ride @ Tipp?

sorry punchestowns was watching the golf.... think the less said the better mate .....horrid is a word that springs to mind....either he thought he had ccb covered or , well you know the rest yourself......

It was an absolutely disgusting ride and it's a joke he wasn't banned for it.

He was carried wide into the home straight which didn`t help, but it`s hard to understand why he didnt get stuck into it.
And then there was Murtagh.

taught murtagh ride in the mares race was shocking pulling double then switched it back into the pack,is it me or is murtagh given some of the oxx's horses poor rides

huddys,that ride was from "In Hell",can't think of the motivation[;)] but the best possible position wasn't high up on the list (I'm a/was a  huge Murtagh fan btw).

Murtagh made a call to go inside rather than outside which transpired to be the wrong call ( got in a pocket and had to wait before extricating ) but that can happen and his was not the only injudious ride in the race - another horse had no such traffic issues but was simply given way too much to do and that ride seems to be have invited no jockey bashing , maybe Murtagh is a marked man after Alanza , round up the usual suspects !

STELLAR,you're missing the wood for the trees.there was nothing on the outside-just the wrong result.

I didn't realise that Fran Berry lost his whip in the Oaks till I read the papers this morning.
I thought at one stage she was coming to win the race and flattened out close home. The stick could easy have been the difference.

he stopped frankies mount about one and a half down....makes her win all the more worthy imo...

Punch , you seem to imply that Murtagh deliberately stopped his filly owned by the Aga Khan from winning a Group race. Murtagh was sacked from his retainer with the Aga Khan previously when he put up overweight more than once on fillies running in black type races which made the difference between winning and being placed . In that context , what is the likely reaction of his current employer ( Aga not Oxx by the way )if he believed what you seem to believe ? And what is the likelihood of Murtagh , having burned his bridges with Coolmore , taking that risk ?

STELLAR,I don't know why he did it (Murtagh) but his ride gave the horse no chance of winning and I'd have serious questions to ask him if that was my horse and the first would be why after holding the horse up way out of it's ground and when you eventually say daylight (when he moved to the outside of Obama Rules) you waited motionless for about 100 yards?,as an aside what did you make of the Mangan effort at Tipp?

Fair point Punch , regarding Mangan , the rule requires him to 'take all reasonable and permissible measures throughout the race to ensure that his horse is given a full opportunity to win or of obtaining the best possible place ' - Rule 212 - while he didnt 'stop' him , the encouragement was of a fairly minimal nature right at the death of the race and without resort to the whip . On balance , I find it hard to believe that there would not have been a conviction under this rule in other major racing jurisdictions on the grounds of schooling / using the racecourse as a training ground with a holiday for horse and jockey .