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winston
03 Jul 11 13:05
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Arabella Boy and Lucky Wish stand out but they have only two chase wins between them. 3.05 Limerick,it's a winners of 1 ffs! Sometimes I despair at the standard of journalism in racing.
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Report workrider July 3, 2011 1:27 PM BST
Laugh
Report winston July 3, 2011 1:32 PM BST
I've some cheek,it's actually the 3.35. However,to add insult to injury the 4.05 Limerick doesn't improve the standard.REGAL D'ESTRUVAL (nap), who justified considerable support at Tramore last time,he finished 2nd.
Report Rocketfingers July 3, 2011 2:28 PM BST
Laugh
Report workrider July 3, 2011 4:49 PM BST
Laugh
Report TradeFair July 3, 2011 5:31 PM BST
Winston, you have pointed out two complete howlers but just to make you aware that on this forum Johnny Ward is immune from criticism.
Report Dan Chipowski July 3, 2011 7:01 PM BST
Laugh
Report jward July 3, 2011 7:23 PM BST
I guess I have taken enough slack to say a few things here.
Yes, I have made mistakes in the RP but the stuff here remains seriously OTT. The "complete howlers" that I apparently made in today's spotlights are nothing of the sort. Regal Destruval was 10s into half that price at Tramore and finished second, jumping brilliantly. That justified the market support. My point re the two horses in the winners of 1 was that they had plenty of chances to win far more than 1 race each, whereas my selection had not. As it happens, both selections disappointed.
I used to post here regularly but, as many people say to me nowadays, it has descended into little more than a platform for people to slag each other off. I have no problem with people criticising me and there can be merit in it, but if they would do it to my face rather than hiding behind an internet forum, I would appreciate that.
Report murphyjust. July 3, 2011 7:26 PM BST
oh johnny what have u done??? never rise to the bait, it's sado masochistic at best
Report Monte Christo July 3, 2011 7:28 PM BST
Feck the begrudgers jonny.

You have a job most of us would love but some people feel the need to constantly snipe and criticise everything.
Report downallstar July 3, 2011 7:31 PM BST
You're not far wrong Johnny, this place is a kip now, got the same 6/7 mongs acting like 10yo's.
Only back on here for mp's tipping comp.
Report TradeFair July 3, 2011 7:32 PM BST
While we have your attention JW:

Quantitativeeasing is trained by Nicky Henderson.

Other members feel free to educate him while we can.
Report ReimerpYsatnaf July 3, 2011 7:33 PM BST
It must be hard to not rise to it and come on here to defend yourself, however it is only a select few that keep criticising probably as they are jealous you are making a living out of a sport you love. Sad really
Report TradeFair July 3, 2011 7:41 PM BST
Is there any job that anyone does that is not subject to criticism?
Report ReimerpYsatnaf July 3, 2011 7:48 PM BST
It has turned into a tirade against him imo, it is as if some buy the paper and score every word the man has wrote looking for a mistake to come on here moaning about it.

It is simple, if you don't rate him don't buy the paper, you can get all the form online so you will not have to read anything JW has wrote.
Report jward July 3, 2011 7:49 PM BST
TradeFair, I am aware of the way the Irish National spotlight was badly-phrased on my part. I tipped said horse  previously to win the c*ral cup the year before and know who trains him.
Report Bigwillystyle July 3, 2011 7:53 PM BST
Johnny i have the same problem on here with people jealous of my success.  Dont mind these nutters
Report winston July 3, 2011 8:08 PM BST
Now before you throw the toys out of the pram,I most certainly wasnt slagging you off and actually didnt even realise who wrote the verdict. In fairness it could have been Sweetman,Blake or anybody else for that matter. I just think in general that the standard of journalism in the racing press is poor which was my point moreso than a pop at yourself. I very seldomly post and certainly am on no witchunt and  didnt realise the sensitivity of the writer. I'll make sure not to post again on any errors in the Racing Post but i think there's a case here that you may be taking yourself a bit too seriously. Anyhow apologies for any offence.
Report ReimerpYsatnaf July 3, 2011 8:12 PM BST
winston i was referring mainly to the person who started the other thread and i'd say jward is too
Report squigs July 3, 2011 8:14 PM BST
In fairness Winston and the Writer has been on the end of unfair criticism and slander on here for months, often by people opening multiple accounts. If it was just what you pointed out he would be unlikely to respond.
Report TradeFair July 3, 2011 8:16 PM BST
Slander?
Report winston July 3, 2011 8:35 PM BST
OK,fair enough. Still,I would have imagined that members of the 'Fourth Estate' would be thicker skinned than Mr Ward seems to be. Unfortunately it looks like I've reopened a can of worms which wasn't my intention.
Report wildmanfromborneo July 3, 2011 8:36 PM BST
Johnny Wards summing up of the Limerick Chase was succinct and factually correct unlike the original poster who got the time of the race wrong.
TradeFair has a set against that journalist so his poison should be taken with a grain of salt.
Report TradeFair July 3, 2011 8:40 PM BST
The Betfair forum should be taken with a pinch of salt.
Report wildmanfromborneo July 3, 2011 8:46 PM BST
Well on that i think we all agree but have you no sense of fair play.
Report Allduckornodinner July 3, 2011 9:45 PM BST
I thought a particularly poor Spotlight by JW was his verdict of Harrisson's Cove in Leopardstown Thurday where he suggested it was disconcerting that Joseph O' Brien passed the mount over. The horse was due to carry 8-12 in a handicap. Come on now Joeys weight has been one of the talking poimts og the Flat season so far.

On another point Johnny of you are reading you could really do with toning down the aftertiming  when you do the Result Analysis unless the price is particularly relevant (i.e. A horse justifies strong support or alternatively drifts and runs accordingly) . I've noticed that you regularly just say a winner was sent off at too big a price or a beaten fav was too short and go no further. Hindsight is 20:20 but you come across as basically aftertiming which is a waste of copy.
Report squigs July 3, 2011 9:46 PM BST
The Slander suggestion refers to previous positings not by any names on here.
Report mincer11 July 3, 2011 9:58 PM BST
Very good points made by allduckornodinner,but the term justifying strong support is no longer as we once knew it,apparently nowadays horses can get beaten and still justify strong support.I think people would have looked on Mr Ward alot more favourably if he held his hands up and said he made a mistake ,after all everybody make mistakes from time to time.To come out with this line that he has is laughable
Report wildmanfromborneo July 3, 2011 10:03 PM BST
He didnt make a mistake so how can he admit to anything.It didnt take you long to team up with TradeFair.
Report Bigwillystyle July 3, 2011 10:04 PM BST
Can i join them wildmanLaugh
Report wildmanfromborneo July 3, 2011 10:08 PM BST
You of all people should understand the point about the horse being placed,when you went on the 44 horse losing run you plaintively replied that some of them were placed a fact i acknowledged.
Report Bigwillystyle July 3, 2011 10:09 PM BST
That is not what he implied in the article.  I dont care one way or the other
Report wildmanfromborneo July 3, 2011 10:14 PM BST
That low attention span kicking in again,when you have only one ally its not enough for you so you quit.Why not reply under one of your other names but remember which one it is.
Report Bigwillystyle July 3, 2011 10:16 PM BST
I have told you before i have one name on here only.  Not surprised so many people disagree with what you say with the tripe you come out with
Report mincer11 July 3, 2011 10:20 PM BST
He did make a mistake,he said a horse justified strong Market support when it blatantly didn't ,only an idiot like wildman could take his side in this argument.At the end of the day it's no big deal,maybe he should have let sleeping dogs lie particularly when he didn't have any defence
Report wildmanfromborneo July 3, 2011 10:24 PM BST
He made the same defence as your pal Bigwillystyle made,try reading the original post Mincer and respond to that if you are able.
Report moneypenny July 3, 2011 10:38 PM BST
downallstar     03 Jul 11 19:31 
You're not far wrong Johnny, this place is a kip now, got the same 6/7 mongs acting like 10yo's.
Only back on here for mp's tipping comp
.

Im only here myself for the same reason DAS . Laugh

Fcuck the begrudgers EMI
Report mincer11 July 3, 2011 10:47 PM BST
You wouldn't be a huge loss moneypenny,pity they didn't put you into one of those tall ships and took you away
Report moneypenny July 3, 2011 11:00 PM BST
[:o]
Report moneypenny July 3, 2011 11:01 PM BST
[:o]Laugh
Report wildmanfromborneo July 3, 2011 11:02 PM BST
They had free reign here for ages and none of ye would bell that cat,they are belled now.
Report scoobyknows July 3, 2011 11:04 PM BST
I was down there thursday night #tallships,the place was full of married ones looking for their hole.Great Stuff..!
Report moneypenny July 3, 2011 11:09 PM BST
good man scoobyknows [;)]
Report thatsurcoco July 4, 2011 5:27 PM BST
lads did any of ye not see johnnys pick six selections on post yesterday. tom horn the banker. it was the seventh race and therefore was not part of pick six.Now thats a mistake.
Report somedougal July 5, 2011 5:34 PM BST
its gonna be awhile before that pick 6 clicks for him!
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