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wildmanfromborneo
12 Jun 11 19:38
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I know it is sacrilegious to say but i have not been impressed with either of So You Thinks runs on the Curragh.These reports about brilliant gallops should be taken with a pinch of salt,Ballydoyle have to keep the hype up as he is standing them millions.If he flops at Ascot or later on they will come up with some excuse and then refer to his brilliance on the gallops and his two Curragh victories to preserve his stud career.Australian middle distance horses are nothing like their sprinters,throw in the fact he has had a wind operation makes me think we have a great lay for Wednesdays Prince of Wales Stakes.
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Report observerirl June 12, 2011 7:58 PM BST
Fair play wmfb you can certainly get stuck in at those prices which are a lot more attractive than your Recital lays. Good luck
Report Cupwinkcook June 12, 2011 8:05 PM BST
all about dirty e/w rather than laying the fav
Report squigs June 12, 2011 8:16 PM BST
No need to be reliant on it's Irish form, on it's Australian form it should destroy the field in my opinion.
Report revedesivola June 12, 2011 8:22 PM BST
i think hes there to be gotten stuck into, a huge price at 1.5 i think. see with your eyes and that, you rightly say that hype doesnt make him a good horse, but obviously it doesnt make him a bad horse either. i personally dont see what wasnt to like about his first to runs, and i think that laying him is up there with the worst 2/1 shots there will be this season. wmfb, do you honestly think 2/1 is a fair price about him being beat? im lumping on, already on but having more on on the day. what do u think will beat him? id say planteur is the only other horse in the race i could see winning, and at that id say its highly unlikely!
Report GANT007 June 12, 2011 8:22 PM BST
I'd sooner lay Frankel than So You Think.........I think both will win and have doubled them.
Report ko2 June 12, 2011 8:25 PM BST
a lot of bookies now going  1/4 1,2 ante post on that race so be careful who yee bet  with each way at the moment
Report ko2 June 12, 2011 8:27 PM BST
ladbrokes are 1/4 1,2,3 but their odds are crap on the 2nd 3rd  and 4th in the betting
Report observerirl June 12, 2011 8:30 PM BST
The case for laying Frankel is stronger imo. SYT has won two egg n spoon races without being put under any degee of pressure and his scope is relatively unknown and at two's on I'd prefer to lay Frankel at 3's on. His performance and what looked like a supreme effort in the Gns could lead one to the conclusion that he may have burnt himself out. Of course it was an utterly outstanding display but there is a doubt that he can reproduce that performance so at the price he is one to lay imo.
Report wildmanfromborneo June 12, 2011 8:33 PM BST
The one good thing about being a layer is you dont have to nominate the winner,so while i respect Revedesivolas opinion i think we are going to stay in opposite camps on this one. So You Think was not visually impressive in his victories it was all about what Aiden OBrien was saying and if you were to go on the bare form you would say he cant win a group 1.
Report ReimerpYsatnaf June 12, 2011 8:38 PM BST
I thought he won both starts this year handy, he looked an absolute monster in Australia in his 2 cox plate wins and im off the opinion he could well be the best middle distance horse in the world.
It seems connections of Workforce are not very keen to take him off, firstly they said he could run in the Tattersalls Gold Cup until So You Think was entered so they swerved it and now they are swerving Royal Ascot
Report RodneyHutchingsJNR June 12, 2011 8:38 PM BST
Great horses quicken immediately,IMHO!
Report wildmanfromborneo June 12, 2011 8:41 PM BST
The nonsense of Ryan Moore riding So You Think will come back to haunt them.
Report revedesivola June 12, 2011 8:41 PM BST
Laugh i know you dont have to pick the winner, but what im saying is there has to be at least one horse that turns up that will be able to beat him. i played around with laying for a little while when i began on bf, and the stupidest thing i used to do was lay bad horses, or badly treated horses at short prices. pointless of course if theres nothing to beat them. same applies here. ive backed syt for the arc, and i think for his royal ascot race the only thing in question is how farLaugh i dont think he will win on the bridle, but i do think that he will readily come clear. i wouldnt expect ryan moore will be getting a whip banLaugh  eitherLaugh
Report neill d June 12, 2011 8:45 PM BST
I'd rather back Planteur e/w at 7/2 than lay myself, if I was of the mind to be against SYT. Rewilding surely needs further.
Report revedesivola June 12, 2011 8:46 PM BST
Cry what exactly can ryan moore do when hes on workforce that will hinder so you think allowing that he knows syt? nothing... naiive in thinking one of the most shrewd racing operations in the world are giving rivals a boostCry
Report observerirl June 12, 2011 8:48 PM BST
Ryan Moore is surely one of the best jockeys in the world dont get your point wmfb.
Report wildmanfromborneo June 12, 2011 8:51 PM BST
If So You Think has a weakness like i think he has Moore will know all about it and he will exploit that weakness to Workforces benefit.
Report revedesivola June 12, 2011 8:53 PM BST
obs, he thinks that if ryan moore, or any other jocks know a ballydoyle horse well,and then are riding against it thats its of some benefit to them. i really dont see it myself
Report revedesivola June 12, 2011 8:55 PM BST
wmfb, thats a very general statement. make up a very specific weakness, and explain exactly how he could exploit it on workforce!
Report observerirl June 12, 2011 8:57 PM BST
See that angle guys but this horse is hardly a Recital or some quirky greyhound dont buy into that argument
Report neill d June 12, 2011 8:58 PM BST
TBf, he may have noticed that it seems to take SYT a few strides to hit top gear and he may take advantage of that by kicking early, however I don't think they will ever meet in any case, not befor the Arc anyway.
Report yourlack June 12, 2011 9:00 PM BST
They could very well meet in the eclipse. They have st nic for king george, maybe they will drop back for the sussex.
Report revedesivola June 12, 2011 9:02 PM BST
neill, anything that can be used against syt, or any horse, like taking a few strides to hit top gear is available for every jock in the world to see, even you and i infront of the fire at home on the tele. no riding required[:(]
Report wildmanfromborneo June 12, 2011 9:03 PM BST
The most famous example i can give you is Sir Ivor.Lester Piggott rode him to victory in the 1968 Epsom Derby but knew he didnt really stay a mile and a half so when it came to the Irish Derby Liam Ward was now on Sir Ivor and Lester was on the stayer Ribero.Lester made it a test of stamina and Ribero easily beat Sir Ivor who started it 1/3 prompting Vincent OBrien to state...the great thing about having Lester Piggott riding for you is he is not riding against you.
Report observerirl June 12, 2011 9:12 PM BST
Great twist wmfb though if i recall LW had first call on the VOB horses at home at that time.In other words LP was'nt given a choice. Now the only game in town is KNOWING who RM would prefer to ride!!
Report revedesivola June 12, 2011 9:14 PM BST
pinning your hopes on ryan moore riding against an aob non stayer on a front runner[smiley:crazy]
Report neill d June 12, 2011 9:19 PM BST
Yeah I haven't really a strong oppinion on it tbh, I just thought thats what wmfb was maybe getting at.
Report wildmanfromborneo June 12, 2011 9:21 PM BST
Observerirl...Correct Liam Ward had first call on all Vincent OBriens horses when they ran in Ireland.
Revedesivola...That is only an example but have no doubt Moores allegiance is to Michael Stoute and he will examine So You Think thoroughly and if there is a chink he will tell his boss and they will use it against them.
Report revedesivola June 12, 2011 9:25 PM BST
u keep saying that, chinks etc[:x] we shall have to agree to disagree[:(]Laugh only advice il give u this month, dont lay syt!!!
Report GANT007 June 12, 2011 9:26 PM BST
I wonder did Ryan give Stoute the heads up after the Curragh.......Workforce misses Royal Ascot.
Report wildmanfromborneo June 12, 2011 9:30 PM BST
It is also possible that Ryan Moore has been so impressed with So You Think that he has told Stoute not to bother taking him on.
Report revedesivola June 12, 2011 9:30 PM BST
scrap that advice. here goes. sell your house, or remortgage it. put everything on a treble, syt & frankel & mawsem in the 3.00 at sedgefield tmrw. collect ur money, buy the gaff back and spend you hundreds of thousands on hookers, whiskey and a personal assistant[;)]
Report revedesivola June 12, 2011 9:31 PM BST
wmfb, suits ryan, he gets to ride em both[:(]Laugh im sure hes not like that tho...
Report observerirl June 12, 2011 9:35 PM BST
Jaysus reve wouldnt waste money on the PA
Report neill d June 12, 2011 9:35 PM BST
Reve, I used to say something v similar to your second last post every Tuesday and Thursday night at about half 2 in the morning while leaving various Limerick nightspots.

What d **** I'm supposed to do now college is over I don't know. I don't have a house to remortgage though
Report revedesivola June 12, 2011 9:38 PM BST
Shocked no student loan to have on a "good thing" eitherCryLaugh
Report neill d June 12, 2011 9:41 PM BST
ya, I owe a small bit, but I can't give em what I don't have, I'll offer them a fiver a week, if William Fry end up having to pay out 700million on that ponzie scheme, the last 4 years may have been a complete waste of time in the context of getting a job in this country.

Boston is fine for a holiday, but you can only bet on the track over there.........Cry
Report revedesivola June 12, 2011 9:43 PM BST
Laugh lucky u werent in dubai! wats it they say, if you owe a million uve got a big problem, if you owe 20 million the bank has a big problem! i was rejected an application for 20 millionCry
Report neill d June 12, 2011 9:49 PM BST
Laugh the worry I have especially is that if I do have to leave to find a job, I don't know how I'd cope with it. Dublin would be grand I'd hope.

I was in Toulouse for six months, and my clerest memory is rushing home from work at breaktime to see one of Willie Mullins in a Novice Chase at Clonmel, think it was Apt Approach. I'd worry I'd be too much of a homebird tbh.

BTW I was rejected for an app for much less....Laugh
Report neill d June 12, 2011 9:49 PM BST
I wouldn't mind heading up to Dublin for a job.
Report revedesivola June 12, 2011 9:55 PM BST
yeah i think i might be a bit of a home bird myself, hard to know until you go away really. whats d job?
Report neill d June 12, 2011 10:03 PM BST
Did a Law Degree, but not many jobs in the trade, working in a pub at the moment, only about ten hours a week. I've started studying for the fE!'s minimum compliance exams from the Law Society, but not really sure is there a point- no jobs. Maybe, better of going to America or something and doing their exams, hard to know what to do tbh.
Report neill d June 12, 2011 10:04 PM BST
FE1's sorry I think they are called
Report revedesivola June 12, 2011 10:11 PM BST
hard t know isnt it! maybe youd be aswell drawing the dole, aswell as rent allowance, single mother allowance, medical card, disability benefit, etc etc. im sure theres more...Laugh
Report neill d June 12, 2011 10:13 PM BST
I'm goin down tomorrow, see what I can get.....
Report revedesivola June 12, 2011 10:19 PM BST
Laugh no point going down with one pps number, you may bring 5 or 6Laugh
Report neill d June 13, 2011 1:15 AM BST
Laugh
Report revedesivola June 15, 2011 4:23 PM BST
top stuff wildman, i thought he was a good thing and hoped hed be a star. no excuses tho..[:x]
Report Giant Strides June 15, 2011 4:29 PM BST
No excuses  reve.
I thought they made a proper bo##ocks of it!
Report squigs June 15, 2011 4:36 PM BST
Fair play to you I disagreed but you were on the money.
Report BJG June 15, 2011 6:39 PM BST
wd wildman
Report Rocketfingers June 15, 2011 6:46 PM BST
Neill d i thought you were older than that, one of the more sensible/nicer heads on the forum. Good luck finding a job mate i'm sure something will crop up. If not no biggie to get out of this place mate, btw what is your qualification?
Report never give up June 16, 2011 10:05 PM BST
wd
Report neill d June 16, 2011 10:10 PM BST
Law dgree rockect, but that doesn't strictly qualify you for anything much and its hard to see oppertiunities in the profession at the present tbh, my betting is getting a bit indisciplined as well as a result tbh, well more than usual.Laugh
Report neill d June 16, 2011 10:11 PM BST
tbh tbh, I'm goin nutsLaugh, madder than AOB
Report neill d June 16, 2011 10:12 PM BST
Gas him saying marksmanship would 'come on for the race today', he isn't even a stallion prospect really at this stage and he is already protecting his reputation.
Report ilikewavingatbuses June 17, 2011 12:16 AM BST
i thought he was asking a lot of marksmanship in a tough race today considering he'd only raced once.
Report never give up June 17, 2011 12:32 AM BST
exactly
Report wildmanfromborneo June 20, 2012 11:37 PM BST
I presume this is the thread ye are looking for
Report Rocketfingers June 20, 2012 11:42 PM BST
No i told you it's in the horse racing forum Laugh

Byeeeeeeee
Report never give up June 20, 2012 11:48 PM BST
wildrosie the sick weirdo has gone mad since being exposed as dark rosaleen
Report wildmanfromborneo June 20, 2012 11:55 PM BST
Never Give Up you are like an echo you are trailing after Rocketfingers hoping he will befriend you just like you followed Triple Trigger round hoping for him to pat you on the head,your need for comfort has resulted in you e mailing people you think might be friendly with disastrous results,they are laughing at you and when Dark Rosie laughed at you that tipped you over the edge,there is nothing wrong with your little white lie about your wealth.
Try Lisdoonvarna.
Report never give up June 20, 2012 11:58 PM BST
u cant go to lisdoonvarna wildrosie as sick cross dressing weirdos like u arent allowed
Report never give up June 20, 2012 11:59 PM BST

Jun 20, 2012 -- 5:55PM, wildmanfromborneo wrote:


Never Give Up you are like an echo you are trailing after Rocketfingers hoping he will befriend you just like you followed Triple Trigger round hoping for him to pat you on the head,your need for comfort has resulted in you e mailing people you think might be friendly with disastrous results,they are laughing at you and when Dark Rosie laughed at you that tipped you over the edge,there is nothing wrong with your little white lie about your wealth.Try Lisdoonvarna.


show me a thread were i have emailed anyone or show ur self to be a liar again wildrosie

Report wildmanfromborneo June 21, 2012 12:06 AM BST
You brought them back up,now i accept you did not realise they contained the fact you purported to be a bookmaker to Dark Rosie,she failed to show us the e mail but she told us of some of its contents.
She/he has driven you mad you should genuinely let it go as it is not good for your mental health.
Trailing me is also bad for you and wishing i were her is also classic paranoia and slightly worrying for me.
Report never give up June 21, 2012 12:09 AM BST
she failed to show us.......
she told us of some of its contents....
stop talking about ur self weirdo.........
everyone knows what u r sicko...........

p.s u still havent told me y i cant go back to dunmore dogs
Report wildmanfromborneo June 21, 2012 12:24 AM BST
I shudder to think of what you did at Dunmore dogs,sent a personal message to Rocketfingers with the gory details.
Report wildmanfromborneo June 21, 2012 12:25 AM BST
That should be   SEND
Report never give up June 21, 2012 12:26 AM BST
u tell me wildrosie..............u said i cant go back there..............im waiting
Report never give up June 21, 2012 12:30 AM BST
come on wildrosie.....................tell all why u said i cant go back there please
Report wildmanfromborneo June 21, 2012 12:39 AM BST
Go back there,go anywhere just get yourself out of the house as your paranoia is growing.A night at the hounds might take your mind of these obsessions of yours but be careful of your delusions, you might start shouting the odds to impress Dark Rosie,one thing is certain you will see her every where,she will be the tea lady,the girl leading round trap three the girl at the tote desk,come to think of it not such a good idea after all.
Report never give up June 21, 2012 12:42 AM BST

Jun 20, 2012 -- 6:30PM, never give up wrote:


come on wildrosie.....................tell all why u said i cant go back there please


please answer what u said wildrosie

Report wildmanfromborneo June 21, 2012 12:50 AM BST
I am not your counsellor so pleading will get you nowhere,i can`t help you, doubt if anyone can,try e mailing Rocketfingers.
He lives near you and might fancy a night at the hounds go with him and you should be alright.
Report never give up June 21, 2012 12:53 AM BST
quote from wildmanfromborneo
"you cant go to dunmore dogs as you owe all the bookmakers there"
come on wildrosie please explain or u will be proven as a liar again and a sick weirdo
Report wildmanfromborneo June 21, 2012 1:01 AM BST
Make your mind up first you claim you are a bookie now you claim to owe them.
Your obsessive mind is playing tricks with you,i know nothing about Dunmore dogs i was never there, all i know about that place is stuff you posted about it,that alleged quote is not from me although i recollect someone called Reluctant saying something about an incident with you on a dog track.
This is pointless let it go,i am not stopping you going to the dogs,i am not stopping you doing anything,i have no interest in your obsessive activities transfer them to Rocketfingers who might enjoy your company.
Report never give up June 21, 2012 1:02 AM BST
Make your mind up first you claim you are a bookie now you claim to owe them.

they are ur claims............please back them up tootsie
Report never give up June 21, 2012 1:05 AM BST
poor wildrosie..................exposed again as a liar u sick cross dressing weirdo
Report wildmanfromborneo June 21, 2012 1:09 AM BST
I don`t know what you are,you claimed to be a wealthy bookie to Dark Rosie,it came up in one of your regurgitated threads,the bit about owing all these bookies is news to me,you are confused and angry and driving yourself to a nervous breakdown.
Have you no one you can turn to,is there no help you can get so now for the umpteenth time let it go.
Report wildmanfromborneo June 21, 2012 1:18 AM BST
It is significant that 90% of your posts are a repeat yet in your alleged quote from me its just in inverted commas,i presume you are now scouring the forum for this quote but its only your mind driving you mad.
Report never give up June 21, 2012 1:22 AM BST

Jun 20, 2012 -- 7:18PM, wildmanfromborneo wrote:


It is significant that 90% of your posts are a repeat yet in your alleged quote from me its just in inverted commas,i presume you are now scouring the forum for this quote but its only your mind driving you mad.


sad,so so sad that u spend every day reading my posts and when u make a claim u then cant back it up................starting to feel sorry 4 u now tootsie

Report never give up June 21, 2012 1:26 AM BST
get to ur bed now wildrosie as u have a long day tomorrow stalking me...........p.s make sure u take ur bra of
Report hello :-) June 21, 2012 1:35 AM BST
tootsie LaughLaughLaugh
Report never give up June 21, 2012 1:44 AM BST
LaughLaughLaugh
Report wildmanfromborneo June 21, 2012 11:35 PM BST
It is the bewitching hour of night with only the owl and timber wolf abroad.
Never Give Up it is obvious you scoured all the posts and failed in Bono fashion to find what you were looking for,hence no regurgitation,it shows classic paranoia on your part.
Report never give up June 22, 2012 12:47 AM BST
poor wildrosie"tootsie" has started another thread again about me on the horse forum...................what a sick cross dressing weirdo u r tootsie
Report wildmanfromborneo June 22, 2012 1:29 AM BST
More paranoia.
Report never give up June 22, 2012 2:06 AM BST
go back to the horse forum were u have been exposed again tootsi
Report never give up June 22, 2012 2:06 AM BST
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