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08 Jun 11
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A fresh complaint has been lodged by another young GAA player against a prominent sports journalist already at the centre of a major garda sex investigation.
The new allegation has come to light since detectives started their inquiries into the initial complaint of statutory rape by another girl, it was learned last night.
However, it is understood the latest incident to come to light took place some time before the alleged rape.
It involves a different girl who was also mentored by the journalist while she was a member of an underage team, although she is older than the initial complainant, now 16. The two girls are attached to different GAA clubs in Dublin.
Senior gardai confirmed last night that the fresh complaint centres on alleged inappropriate contact between the girl and the journalist, but does not involve rape.
Officers said they had received details of the complaint in the past few weeks and had interviewed the alleged victim, who is now over 18.
But they have not been able to talk to the journalist about either of the complaints as he has been undergoing medical treatment at a Dublin hospital since the investigation began more than two months ago.
Gardai said last night that the journalist was likely to remain in hospital for several weeks, but they were continuing with their inquiries and interviewing all relevant persons while awaiting his discharge to be authorised by doctors.
It is expected that after he leaves hospital, he will be arrested and questioned about the complaints before gardai complete a file to be sent to the Director of Public Prosecutions, who will determine if criminal charges should be brought against the journalist.
The investigation is being carried out by gardai from a city station and members of the domestic violence and sexual assault unit, which is part of the National Bureau of Criminal Investigation, based at Harcourt Square in Dublin.
The garda probe started towards the end of March after the journalist's daughter allegedly discovered text messages he had sent to the girl on an old mobile phone.
The journalist had given the phone to his daughter, who was collecting old mobiles to donate to a charity. It is alleged she found the texts, as well as photographs of the camogie player, while putting a new SIM card into the phone.
His daughter showed the texts to other members of her family and they contacted the gardai.
Gardai have since carried out a detailed interview with the girl with whom the journalist is alleged to have had sex.
She has given them her account of her relationship with him in the months leading up to the alleged statutory rape and after.
The relationship is alleged to have started while the journalist was coaching and mentoring the girl and other members of an underage GAA team.
If the journalist is charged and convicted of statutory rape, he faces a maximum sentence of life imprisonment.
Last April, St Vincent's GAA football and camogie club, based in Marino on the northside of Dublin, issued a statement distancing itself from the sports journalist.
The man had been a member of the club and a mentor to an underage team at St Vincent's until September of last year, but had not mentored another team since then.
The teenager involved in the investigation is not a member of St Vincent's and the club has made it clear that it will provide whatever assistance is required by the gardai as part of their inquiries, while also respecting the rights and needs of club members.
The journalist had been a high-profile member of the club until the end of last year, when his membership lapsed.
- Tom Brady Security Editor
Irish Independent
The new allegation has come to light since detectives started their inquiries into the initial complaint of statutory rape by another girl, it was learned last night.
However, it is understood the latest incident to come to light took place some time before the alleged rape.
It involves a different girl who was also mentored by the journalist while she was a member of an underage team, although she is older than the initial complainant, now 16. The two girls are attached to different GAA clubs in Dublin.
Senior gardai confirmed last night that the fresh complaint centres on alleged inappropriate contact between the girl and the journalist, but does not involve rape.
Officers said they had received details of the complaint in the past few weeks and had interviewed the alleged victim, who is now over 18.
But they have not been able to talk to the journalist about either of the complaints as he has been undergoing medical treatment at a Dublin hospital since the investigation began more than two months ago.
Gardai said last night that the journalist was likely to remain in hospital for several weeks, but they were continuing with their inquiries and interviewing all relevant persons while awaiting his discharge to be authorised by doctors.
It is expected that after he leaves hospital, he will be arrested and questioned about the complaints before gardai complete a file to be sent to the Director of Public Prosecutions, who will determine if criminal charges should be brought against the journalist.
The investigation is being carried out by gardai from a city station and members of the domestic violence and sexual assault unit, which is part of the National Bureau of Criminal Investigation, based at Harcourt Square in Dublin.
The garda probe started towards the end of March after the journalist's daughter allegedly discovered text messages he had sent to the girl on an old mobile phone.
The journalist had given the phone to his daughter, who was collecting old mobiles to donate to a charity. It is alleged she found the texts, as well as photographs of the camogie player, while putting a new SIM card into the phone.
His daughter showed the texts to other members of her family and they contacted the gardai.
Gardai have since carried out a detailed interview with the girl with whom the journalist is alleged to have had sex.
She has given them her account of her relationship with him in the months leading up to the alleged statutory rape and after.
The relationship is alleged to have started while the journalist was coaching and mentoring the girl and other members of an underage GAA team.
If the journalist is charged and convicted of statutory rape, he faces a maximum sentence of life imprisonment.
Last April, St Vincent's GAA football and camogie club, based in Marino on the northside of Dublin, issued a statement distancing itself from the sports journalist.
The man had been a member of the club and a mentor to an underage team at St Vincent's until September of last year, but had not mentored another team since then.
The teenager involved in the investigation is not a member of St Vincent's and the club has made it clear that it will provide whatever assistance is required by the gardai as part of their inquiries, while also respecting the rights and needs of club members.
The journalist had been a high-profile member of the club until the end of last year, when his membership lapsed.
- Tom Brady Security Editor
Irish Independent
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And why not. What i don't get is why is he allowed to hide behind an old Mental Act. He was caught and should take his punishment (if found guilty)
Janet Evans NEVER failed a drugs test in her life or served ANY sanction for drugs offences EVER whether you like it or not.
Also, I'm not sure why you are linking statutory rape to the Lisbon Treaty but I'm sure you have your reasons for that little chip on your shoulder
Also, I'm not sure why you are linking statutory rape to the Lisbon Treaty but I'm sure you have your reasons for that little chip on your shoulder
Additionally I don't really see how anybody could "enjoy" this story
Well said db1974. The fact that the journalist concerned may or may not be guilty of the crime alleged does not serve to discredit his opinions on other matters.
And "innocent Michele De Bruin" ! Is that a pig flying over there ?
And "innocent Michele De Bruin" ! Is that a pig flying over there ?
He was a preaching journalist that used his sports column to promote Lisbon 2.One of the promises made was our corporation tax rate was safe,that was a French lie and all our troubles stem from that referendum.
Reb seems to me a patriot in reverse Michelle De Bruin never failed a drug test and was the most tested swimmer of all time,most of the other swimmers did including Janet Evans who served a six month ban.
Reb seems to me a patriot in reverse Michelle De Bruin never failed a drug test and was the most tested swimmer of all time,most of the other swimmers did including Janet Evans who served a six month ban.
Michele De Bruin was given a 4 year ban for tampering with a urine sample - she denies it
Janet Evans served a 6 motnh ban?? It doesn't say she ever failed a drug test anywhere on the interent or served a 6 month ban
Janet Evans served a 6 motnh ban?? It doesn't say she ever failed a drug test anywhere on the interent or served a 6 month ban
RY, this is a Betfair Forum - never let the facts get in the way of a good rant !
Reb if you have such contempt for this forum surely you and superior people like you should just ignore it.
wild, I take things and people as I meet and see them. The Betfair Fora aren't what they used to be.
I have never understood the down on Michelle De Bruin.She was hard working, a native Irish speaker, she even looked Irish and a Olympic winning swimmer,yet a mob of journalists harried hassled and harangued her to demean her in the public eye for their own agenda.
wildman is most definitely on a wind up. I believe that he has covered this ground before on here.
Gary OToole would have you for breakfast on this one wildman.
As I was going over the Cork and Kerry mountains.....
As I was going over the Cork and Kerry mountains.....
Irish media has generally acted very respectfully in the instance of this sorry case, wouldn't suggest that the Indo are trying to dance on a rival's grave tbh
There is a connection between the above journalist and the training methods used in Irish swimming.They used let the girls in the pool first and then someone would shout.... Gibneys in the pool....that taught them how to swim fast.
db1974 08 Jun 11 11:30
Additionally I don't really see how anybody could "enjoy" this story
Enjoying "reporting" this story.
Additionally I don't really see how anybody could "enjoy" this story
Enjoying "reporting" this story.
Gary o toole predicted the olympics results for smith would be out of this world for smith and such improvement couldnt be achieved naturally, but he was gagged by rte.
^ correct. RTE's best ever analyst imo.
He also looks Irish.
He also looks Irish.
Not fishing,all the East German swimmers were systematically doped,we now know all the American athletes of the nineties were doped including the great Carl Lewis,that is part and parcel of the sport.Am astounded that the brain washed on here think Michelle De Bruin who never failed a test was the only guilty party.Being morally superior was a trademark of Gary Sliotar and others whilst lauding strangers were always down on their own.
Amazing maderation on this forum if you ask me. One person says a few things about a certain individual (all true) and gets banned from the forum. Then here we have another who says a certain individual failed a drug test and was banned for 6 months which is all false but thats allowed 
You say its untrue,but i like the sleveen way you try to curtail the discussion.Argue against me if you like but introducing veiled threats of bans is typical of a mindset that is so used to having an easy ride.This was the exact way the pro Lisbon campaigners operated,they have now been found out but are still bluffing on indeed their commander Pat Cox is trying to become president.
Reimerp...What was your original name.
Reimerp...What was your original name.
It was not a threat, it was not aimed at you, it was aimed at the stupid moderation on this site.
What was my original name?, you like quizzes work it out!!
What was my original name?, you like quizzes work it out!!
You may have been banned but you were viewing all the time.
WTF are you talking about wildman, viewing jesus . So you think im Robo now or one of the lads you have your little tiff with, im not as i said it's in the name
. So you think im Robo now or one of the lads you have your little tiff with, im not as i said it's in the name
Take it easy,you know i like quizzes that would suggest you were viewing this forum,as simple as that.
wildman remember you thought Pandorama had no chance in the Lexus and somebody said it would win and 10/1 was huge, remember the person you thought would win the tipping comp on here, thats me
Hopefully this filthbag gets his cumuppence from his fellow offenders when he eventually gets airlifted into Arbour Hill.
well i think that made it obvious to wildman yourlack, im not one of the listeners or acolytes he alludes to
Anyone that disagrees with him is dubbed an acolyte or listener.
They used let the girls in the pool first and then someone would shout.... Gibneys in the pool....that taught them how to swim fast.
Do you seriously think this is funny? Do you understand the word P-A-E-D-O-P-H-I-L-E?
And a defender of MdB to boot! (albeit on a lower scale of debauchery)
Do you seriously think this is funny? Do you understand the word P-A-E-D-O-P-H-I-L-E?
And a defender of MdB to boot! (albeit on a lower scale of debauchery)
If you found that joke offensive you are very precious and sensitive.Your Lack have you read some of your masters salacious posts,but i accept that your supporting role and sheltered life might lead to some misunderstanding and would ask you to read again.Loads on here have thankfully disagreed with me on here,they are neither Acolytes or Listeners,the best example would be Slickster who is a long standing opponent of Workrider but he did not hunt in a pack like ye did.
Reimerpysatnav..I remember that thread well and have commented on it frequently since,its great to have you back.
Reimerpysatnav..I remember that thread well and have commented on it frequently since,its great to have you back.
Michelle de Bruin was convicted of tampering with urine samples and received a lengthy ban. That's a simple fact. The case was poured over in excruciating detail by everyone involved (she is now a junior counsel btw) and was appealed. Let there be no doubt. And there was something else found in the samples, it wasn't simply a case of a sample which was polluted with alcohol.
"In a newspaper article three months ago, husband Erik de Bruin asked rhetorically: "Would someone please tell me why Michelle would put ethanol in a sample that did not contain a banned substance?" On Tuesday, despite loud and furious objections from his wife's lawyer, FINA, swimming's governing body, offered a one-word answer: androstenedione.
The court heard that de Bruin took the banned substance, which promotes the growth of testosterone in the body, between 10 and 12 hours before Al and Kate Guy doorstepped her to collect a urine sample that was eventually shown to have been contaminated with whiskey. Two other out-of-competition tests, which book-ended the fateful January 10 test, also revealed positive signs of the use of the testosterone precursor."
"In a newspaper article three months ago, husband Erik de Bruin asked rhetorically: "Would someone please tell me why Michelle would put ethanol in a sample that did not contain a banned substance?" On Tuesday, despite loud and furious objections from his wife's lawyer, FINA, swimming's governing body, offered a one-word answer: androstenedione.
The court heard that de Bruin took the banned substance, which promotes the growth of testosterone in the body, between 10 and 12 hours before Al and Kate Guy doorstepped her to collect a urine sample that was eventually shown to have been contaminated with whiskey. Two other out-of-competition tests, which book-ended the fateful January 10 test, also revealed positive signs of the use of the testosterone precursor."
I love to see Irish sport`s people doing well!!! Michelle will NEVER be a champion in my eyes
It's incredible how both threads on this topic have now been sidetracked into discussions about MdB and attention entirely deflected from the journalist in question.
The journalist concerned ran a campaign against Michelle De Bruin and if this forum is typical a sucessful one.Michelle De Bruin is Irelands most sucessful athlete and has three Olympic gold medals despite the efforts of some.
Lets say we all agree that she took steroids..so what...they all took them,she was still the fastest in Atlanta.Has no one here heard of designer anabolic steroids, they were systematically given to American athletes in the nineties,also given to swimmers and Baseball players.Again has no one on here heard of BALCO,thats where they were manufactured.There were lists of names found in their files,one of these was Janet Evans this is the Daz using darling of this forum,as the holder of 5 world records it is fair to ask how did she compete against the drugged up East Germans.
Do the Spanish hate Miquel Indurain or Alberto Contador..no still heroes but because of a campaign run by some holier than thou journalists we are hardly allowed mention her name.Sonia OSullivan is still revered has she no questions to answer.
Lets say we all agree that she took steroids..so what...they all took them,she was still the fastest in Atlanta.Has no one here heard of designer anabolic steroids, they were systematically given to American athletes in the nineties,also given to swimmers and Baseball players.Again has no one on here heard of BALCO,thats where they were manufactured.There were lists of names found in their files,one of these was Janet Evans this is the Daz using darling of this forum,as the holder of 5 world records it is fair to ask how did she compete against the drugged up East Germans.
Do the Spanish hate Miquel Indurain or Alberto Contador..no still heroes but because of a campaign run by some holier than thou journalists we are hardly allowed mention her name.Sonia OSullivan is still revered has she no questions to answer.
Going back to the subject how is this man not facing the charges and hiding out in a mental home. Im sure he has no mental disability and if this was any other country or a scumbag he would be charged. Im sure the parents of these girls are wanting answers.
Going back to the subject how is this man not facing the charges and hiding out in a mental home. Im sure he has no mental disability and if this was any other country or a scumbag he would be charged. Im sure the parents of these girls are wanting answers.
Wildman your not mixing up amy van dyken and evans ?
http://www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/lane9/news/6336.asp
http://www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/lane9/news/6336.asp
THE journalist at the centre of a garda investigation into alleged sexual contact with minors is seriously ill in hospital.
It is understood that the sports writer from a national newspaper is receiving intensive round-the-clock treatment at a Dublin hospital.
Sources said that the man, who was involved with a Dublin GAA club, suffered serious brain and heart trauma.
He was rushed to hospital on Monday after complaining of heart pains.
He has been attending a psychiatric hospital since allegations that he was involved with an under-age girl first emerged several months ago.
A second allegation that he was inappropriately involved with a young girl subsequently emerged.
Gardai have not yet been able to interview the journalist about the complaint because of his medical condition
It is understood that the sports writer from a national newspaper is receiving intensive round-the-clock treatment at a Dublin hospital.
Sources said that the man, who was involved with a Dublin GAA club, suffered serious brain and heart trauma.
He was rushed to hospital on Monday after complaining of heart pains.
He has been attending a psychiatric hospital since allegations that he was involved with an under-age girl first emerged several months ago.
A second allegation that he was inappropriately involved with a young girl subsequently emerged.
Gardai have not yet been able to interview the journalist about the complaint because of his medical condition
Strange story this.
Suffered severe Heart but more strange than that is brain Trauma. Do you suffer Brain Trauma if you have a heart attack? i would have thought Brain Trauma only occurs when Oxygen does not get to the brain or he stopped breathing. Can someone correct me?.
Suffered severe Heart but more strange than that is brain Trauma. Do you suffer Brain Trauma if you have a heart attack? i would have thought Brain Trauma only occurs when Oxygen does not get to the brain or he stopped breathing. Can someone correct me?.
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