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29 Apr 11
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I liked Giant Strides thread on this defunct racecourse,never realised Bohemians F.C. was near there,so here is a sporting quiz with ancilliary questions for the Bohemian fans.
Q1.What year did the Phoenix Park close.
Q2.What have Corwyn Bay The Caretaker and Rinka Das got in common.
Q3.What year was it closed temporarily.
Q4.Elmaamul won the last Champion Stakes there,name the trainer and rider.
Q5.Who won the first Champion Stakes in 1984.
Q6.What have Gold Cup,Windy City,Royal Duchy,Sixpence,My Beau,Sarissa and Refined have in common.
Q7.From what pub did Celticboy set off to the Phoenix Park in the eighties.
Q8.Name the three photo finish experts who all came a cropper at the Park
Q9.Name two fillies to win the Champion Stakes.
Q1O.On what racecourse was the Phoenix Park modelled on.
Q11.The first evening meeting in Ireland was held at the Phoenix Park what year.
Q12.Who won the 1942 Phoenix Stakes.
Q1.What year did the Phoenix Park close.
Q2.What have Corwyn Bay The Caretaker and Rinka Das got in common.
Q3.What year was it closed temporarily.
Q4.Elmaamul won the last Champion Stakes there,name the trainer and rider.
Q5.Who won the first Champion Stakes in 1984.
Q6.What have Gold Cup,Windy City,Royal Duchy,Sixpence,My Beau,Sarissa and Refined have in common.
Q7.From what pub did Celticboy set off to the Phoenix Park in the eighties.
Q8.Name the three photo finish experts who all came a cropper at the Park
Q9.Name two fillies to win the Champion Stakes.
Q1O.On what racecourse was the Phoenix Park modelled on.
Q11.The first evening meeting in Ireland was held at the Phoenix Park what year.
Q12.Who won the 1942 Phoenix Stakes.
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A pleasant distraction wmfb
1. 1990 2. All won the Cartier Million 3. Guess 1982 4. Hern/Carson 5. Saddlers Wells 6. All won the 1500 as it was known 7. Halfway House in Ashtown!! 8. Guessing here Baldy Flood, Terry Rogers, Mulvaney 9. Stanerra/Indian Skimmer 10. Windsor maybe 11. Guessing late 60's 12. Pass |
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First five correct,you do realise that is the quickest ever.
More needed for Q6,one of the three in Q8,others all wrong although there will be a Stewards Inquiry over Q9 the two you mention were not the ones i had in mind. |
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Q.9 Triptych won it and Indian Skimmer won it 2
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Q 6..all won Phoenix Stakes in the 1950's
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Jaytrump...Triptych is correct,the other filly i had in mind was owned by Burns trained by Jim Bolger.
Q6.Still not enough. |
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Q6 All trained by your hero [;)] Darkie Prendergast
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Park Express so maybe?
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Well done Jay Trump seven in a row from 1950 to 1956.
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Park Express correct as well.
Did Stannera actually win it? |
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Q8. Which of the three is correct? Major Vernon.
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Well done again Observerirl Baldy Flood and Major Vernon both correct.
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Yes Stanerra won it 1983 for Ben Dunne's brother Frank and was ridden by Brian Rouse...(cheated there wildman)1942 was there actually racing that year or was it known as The Phoenix Plate then?
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There was racing and the clue is in the question.
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Q10 answer is the English racetrack Hurst Park which went the same way as ''the Park'' ( closed and built on )
Anyone care to hazard a guess as to which was the only year the Irish champion Stakes was run right handed and why ? |
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Well done again Stellar,Hurst Park is correct,closed down in 1962 home of the Triumph Hurdle and Victoria Cup was situated on the bank of the Thames.
I thought the Champion Stakes was run right handed at the Phoenix Park. |
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I have a recollection of Doctor Devious winning a race at the Curragh that could have been the Champion Stakes.I hope its true because there would be a lovely irony if it was,Sangster fell out with Vincent OBrien and named Doctor Devious after him and it was the triumvirate of Sangster Magnier and OBrien that sold the Phoenix Park for building...greedy.
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Dr Devious won a champion stakes at Leopardstown. The only time he ran at the Curragh was when 2nd to St Jovite in the derby.
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Know Won Nose does indeed know,i remember now there was a photo finish took about 20 minutes to separate them but Stellar Manipulater says it was run right handed one year so i am presuming it was The Curragh
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Was Mad Jack Baldy Flood?
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No but Mad Jack is correct.
Q8.The three photo finish experts to come a cropper at the Phoenix Park were Edward Flood Major Vernon and Mad Jack. If they dont answer Q7 shortly you will have to help them. |
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It's a hundred to eight against anybody gettin it.
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alex bird
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The one time the Irish Champion was run right handed was at the Phoenix Park . Races could be run left handed or right handed and the winner of this edition has been in the news recently. I heard a fascinating theory recently as to why the race was run right handed and the clue lies in the then ownership of the racetrack.
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Q13. Why in Gods name was there a Railway Station opened here? Does anyone even use it?!
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There was another video on You Tube of Indian Skimmers win there but I can`t find it anymore. From what I remember the camera angle appeared different. Did they always run right handed or did they ever change that and run the other way around?
STELLAR, that was one of the things I asked on the initial thread I started. Among other questions, it wasn`t answered!!! Sadlers Wells won right handed but it looked like Indian Skimmer won on the other side of the course. Please clarify. |
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Giant, there were two straights at the Park. One on the Navan Road side(clockwise track) and the other down the middle of the course(anti clockwise track). Races could be either clockwise or anti depending on which course was used but irrespective of which course was used all races finished in a left hand straight.
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I'm old enough to have been to the course. It confused me with the horses nowhere in sight, then a quick glimpse of them as they flashed by the post.
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Which questions were answered correctly and which are unanswered?
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Timarida (filly) won the Irish Champion Stakes.
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Q12.Who won the 1942 Phoenix Stakes.
Hitler. |
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Thanks observerirl.
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Champion Stakes when run at the Park were always as shown in the O P.
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Sadlers Wells won the only Irish Champion run clockwise , am led to believe that his connections may have had a say in running it that way.
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Three questions still unanswered Q7 Q11 Q12.
Answer7 The pub was the 108 in Rathgar. Answer 11.First evening meeting 1929 Answer 12.The clue was in the question..The Phoenix won the Phoenix Stakes in 1942. |