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Man-O-War
26 Oct 10 21:46
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Once again great tipping by this man today at punchestown. He is in the from of his life. cant wait for his opinion on the L.O.I. this Friday nite[:)][:(][:D][:p]GrinHappy[;)][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]

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Man-O-War
When: 26 Oct 10 21:48
*form
By:
thatsurcoco
When: 26 Oct 10 22:09
tipped up his 1st winner today in ages man. what paper were you reading
By:
Man-O-War
When: 26 Oct 10 22:22
i suppose u tink u should be writing for the post now since u tipped a few winners yesterday. sure JW is the irish pricewise. he gives a expert opinion on every race he analyse's and shrewd in running tips..
By:
steeringjobnap
When: 28 Oct 10 14:45
He wouldn't tip **** out of a bucket
By:
kavvie
When: 28 Oct 10 15:08
jw a good sort.would talk to people and has a good handle on whats going on.his sun indo column very good
By:
steeringjobnap
When: 28 Oct 10 15:30
advising the outsider in a level-ball draw no-bet AH is hardy earth shattering stuff...

putting up KS to win his fifth KG IV is also pretty straightforward...except that the world & his mother saw that the 2/1 was wrong; and had already murdered the price...
By:
kavvie
When: 28 Oct 10 15:44
and what would u advise him to do?put up the bets as lays?a winner is a winner.
By:
steeringjobnap
When: 28 Oct 10 15:49
the column is called VALUE BETTING

I expect value, not winners [a subtle, yet important distinction].

Putting up one of NH racing superstars' at a price that was available for a nano-second will look good on the level stakes profit tracker [at 3.0]...but is hardly much good to Joe Public now, is it?...
By:
kavvie
When: 28 Oct 10 15:52
value can be 2/1 dont you agree?.1/2 can be value if the chance of it winning is 1/4.he has given lots of long priced ones.a lot better than some of the newpaper tipsters who just tip the fav as a matter of course.he has a genuine intrest in the game and it shows
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steeringjobnap
When: 28 Oct 10 15:56
Every price is value - it just depends on which side of the book you are on.

Not that I would follow a tipster, as rather strangely, I like to construct my own price tissues & exploit the biggest differentials cf. the market.

Although I had noticed the appalling run he was on in his RP column...

You are missing the point I am making in my last post re: price advised. Compare & contrast that to Steve Palmer's approach.
By:
kavvie
When: 28 Oct 10 16:13
i dont think hes trying to pull the woll over anyones eyes re prices.?...i gather information before i bet and i read his column for a  good reasoned view on what he thinks of various events. hes often wrong but hes often right.thats all im saying
By:
punchestown
When: 28 Oct 10 16:23
Johnny a good egg imo.
By:
norn iron
When: 28 Oct 10 18:27
PUNCH, I AGREE THINK GOOD SEE NEW YOUNG FACE AN I LIKE READING HIS ARTICILES
By:
Gearoid VI
When: 28 Oct 10 20:07
I feel obliged to point out that 2/1 is freely available with Paddy Power. I would not be certain he will go off fav in the race never mind win.
By:
Rowley Mile
When: 28 Oct 10 22:40
Thanks for that Hemroid, thought your employers banned their genuises from the forums ?
By:
Gearoid VI
When: 28 Oct 10 23:55
Did your employer ban spellchecker?
By:
irish_guy_13
When: 29 Oct 10 01:29
j .ward is only human and doing his best in all honest (i hope), but all this negative banter must add more pressure to him, and thats not fair to him........... i don't think he's posted in a long time on his emi  username........ (has he others?)

he should be  let post on here in peace, and defend himself if need be, and all these 2 euro knockers  get a life.

time tells all imo.
By:
Giant Strides
When: 29 Oct 10 10:02
He`s clearly in a in too  privileged a position for some posters.
It`s a tough job and I wouldn`t like to have my betting constantly under the microscope.
The stick the likes of p r i c e wise gets is completely ridiculous.
I`m pretty sure he hasn`t posted since he started that column. Maybe he was instructed not to, or maybe he`s changed his identity like some other fruitcakes on here. [smiley:crazy]
I did have one criticism recently where he jumped the gun and presumed the LOI was over when it clearly wasn`t.
Stick to the facts in future Johnny! Sad
By:
Giant Strides
When: 29 Oct 10 10:04
Ooops! ....clearly in too privileged ...
By:
steeringjobnap
When: 29 Oct 10 10:16
I always smile when critics are accused of 2 yo-yo punting.

Question for those defending JVW so - do you believe he has a conflict of interest in his work in (a) providing BF with Irish horse-racing tissue prices pre-race cf. (b) seperately advising punters to then back selections in Irish racing in the RP?
By:
Giant Strides
When: 29 Oct 10 10:57
providing BF with Irish horse-racing tissue prices pre-race cf.
Excuse my ignorance but where can I find this?
By:
steeringjobnap
When: 29 Oct 10 11:12
It's mentioned as one of his occupations on his social networking site.

I imagine the process is that he supplies the prices, scaled to say 105%, to BF; BF racing traders then populate the win/place markets with same, using house money as the offer cash, via their own bots.

I hardly expect them to price-up using static offers, so robots make the most sense.

Am open to correction on the above, of course...but that would be my take on it.
By:
workrider
When: 29 Oct 10 12:06
giant makes a very valid point , i know i go  down to the parade before most races and consider myself a good judge of a horses fitness , yet even after lots of study and looking at them in the parade ring i get it wrong more often than not . so if people were scrutinizing my bets i would find it hard to justify the time and effort for the fiancial rewards i get . i've met johnny a good few times while racing and find him a good hard working lad and wish him all the best .
By:
neill d
When: 29 Oct 10 12:40
Always seemed an affable knowledgeable type of fella, His Sunday Independent column is good. Compared with some of the tipsters in the daily papers he is excellent. The guy in the Star just tips 2/5 favourites and suggests putting them all in a yankee ffs, better than that auctioneering guy on RTE also.
By:
Tony Fenton
When: 29 Oct 10 17:57
Very decent bloke. Steeringjob not sure he does the bf tissue prices any more.
By:
arthurspooner
When: 29 Oct 10 19:17
I would love to know how much kieran o connell gets paid by the star. He got an award at leopardstown a few months ago for bein europes top tipster.
By:
neill d
When: 29 Oct 10 20:35
He wins that most years, it goes on number of winners tipped
By:
donal
When: 29 Oct 10 20:50
That Europe's top tipster thing is a joke!! Who is he up against? Who keeps the statistics? And sure nobody else tips in races in Longchamp, Philadelphia Park, Saratoga and places like that, so it would be easy for him to nap the most winners!!!!

If he is such a good tipster why did he pull out of The Irish Field naps table??? I'll tell you why because he would only embarass himself in it!!!!
By:
arthurspooner
When: 29 Oct 10 21:12
He wouldnt pick his nose!Laugh
By:
one last chance
When: 30 Oct 10 02:17
well really gives a feck i wud just say half the 1s on here wud like to be in the same sistuation fair play hope the horse runs welland gud luck
By:
ChildOfMine2
When: 30 Oct 10 14:53
Two great tips today!
By:
wherethefenianssleep
When: 30 Oct 10 21:01
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giant makes a very valid point , i know i go  down to the parade before most races and consider myself a good judge of a horses fitness , yet even after lots of study and looking at them in the parade ring i get it wrong more often than not . so if people were scrutinizing my bets i would find it hard to justify the time and effort for the fiancial rewards i get . i've met johnny a good few times while racing and find him a good hard working lad and wish him all the best .

hilarious post, u r sum jack as s
By:
slickster
When: 30 Oct 10 22:32
wonky is somewhat clueless. tries very hard to come across on the forum as though he knows something. god knows he posts enough drivel. great comedy value, i'll give him that Grin
By:
grade 1
When: 31 Oct 10 00:01
Donn had a good record with a value betting column and JW holding his own ( at min ) .
By:
Punting for Profit
When: 31 Oct 10 00:16
JW a really good guy has time for everyone and also very hard working just a young lad trying to make a living at what he loves,live the dream Johnny.
By:
Temlett
When: 31 Oct 10 23:17
Not much wrong with Johnny's 10/1 winner of the last at Leopardstown today.
By:
thegalwayman
When: 31 Oct 10 23:45
No journalist could ever be described as hard working. It is a job for sloths and layabouts.
By:
JohnMcClane
When: 01 Nov 10 01:39
What paper do you write for TGM?
By:
irish_guy_13
When: 01 Nov 10 02:07
^^^^^^ have u no badies to stop,  m  o  r  o  n
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