who in your opinion is the best punter in Ireland?

Charles Byrnes....

hes not well known

I am.

Thought this said Pointer

the lad that eats steaks in jacuzzi's?

id say the steak eater is small fry in comparison...the inner circe is impenitrable!!

one thing for sure it isn't Hammy -- jesus every bookmaker bets him what he likes

Samuel Morse!

correct , iam that good i had to leave the country to get away from the smell of mugs .

The ring is finished in Ireland.

So who can tell now who is the best punter.

In the old days we had J P, Noel Furlong, The Hughes bros were regulars in the ring.

All the heavies are gone .

not many left.but a few at same time

ex  bookies

who were the boys on the phone who use to bet with hyland,havent seen them at a races recently

norn iron (NAP)

Soapp.apart fom j.p.,your other friends did their dough big time.

it used to be me!

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willmot by a mile

The old days are gone forever .  Completely different nowadays , not sure if there are any "big punters " around .  Dont know as I seldom go on course these days , but I get the feeling that there are less lumpy bets than there used to be .

Over 20 years ago I knew one punter who would be betting 10k on his horse ( if he could get the bet on ) , not at evens , but at odds up to 10/1 . Sometimes he got laid , sometimes the bet would be halved etc , but that was essentially one bookies liability .  Cant see that now , and with inflation etc it makes the change even more dramatic .

Was at Leopardstown on Monday and the ring was deserted with 2.5 ew bets the norm from the D4 set.Having said that the PP on course shop was thronged all day.

It was a very quiet market in Punchestown today also.

the early morning operator who the racing post referred recently.
in the article he is refered to as an ex bookie(shel pk) mostly
those who receive his daily emails are lucky men

What are this man's initials calling card?

f s

When was this aricle in the rp about him?

The Admiral

Lads i had my spoils betting account limited as well as another hight street one at this rate i will be on BF the whole time.

Unfortunately 

anyone got the name of guy the racing post article refers too?
cant find it on RP archive
Thanks

to huddys;boys who always bet with hyland were the raleigh gang long disbanded i believe;

layprofessional, I thought they were active up to last year?
Did the main man originally start out at the dogs years ago?

I remember a huge punter around the north kildare area......seemed to get good info and had a lot of hangers on......his party piece was buying champagne after the races...................then word got out this time last year he was broke and his lifestyle had cost him 2 farms of inherited land.
He was a regular 5k e/w punter but really chased odds on shots.

the pencilman NAP

interesting that people are linking the biggest stakes to the 'best' so far, they could be backing losers with big stakes!!!

Your right...the big stake guys never last........a few builders who got into racing are proof of that................I know an auld chap who is big into the point to points........he sets out to make €30......€20 for diesel and €10 for grub on the way home.....he is normally spot on.

Also interesting everyone is horse linking, Harry Findley lost 2.5 million on horses and won 11.5 million off other sports
The biggest/best probably doesnt even watch racing, nobody knows though.

*Findlay

Doyler1987 or Wallflower

noel glynn cant be far away, he'd have 10k on one at the drop of a pin!!

that doesnt make a good punter though. hes just as likely to drop the 10k.
the small money at big odds is far more satisfying. good friend of mine had 100ew sea the stars 25-1 ante post for derby last year. thats just one example. hes been quite lucky with similar big price winners.

Your mate sounds real shrood mitch,hes the best in Ireland no doubt.

kavvie cant be far off either...i have the stubs to prove it..

Soapp sounds real shrood as well.knows his stuff

im only in hapenny lace oldbean...

place

i am as my bets are unique

Would the best punter in ireland use info and the form book or just the form book?

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yes randwick dogs is his speciality;imo should of stuck to dogs cos nobody better;problem is got involved with horses and idiots that ran for him

thanks layp, I remember him when he started out, must be 20 odd years ago. how time flys. was a pro in another "sport" as well before that.

have to agree with martina 2 wilmott"by a mile"...great at landin touches at the grade 1 circuits...

like pittoni in leopardstown yesterday?

Or Sailors Warn (2/1f) in the 1 15 Mallow yesterday too!!

i think sailors warn wasn't expected as much as Pittoni

Does he ever go racing himself??

ah now mitch,soapp,ye are only lookin at a couple a results that didnt go to plan...backin his horses over a long period would yield a big divedentye morons!!!!

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davy, no?

Hows Wilmott getting on these days?  Was one of the top dogs not that long ago.

832/1 bf sp there in first race in roscommon.   434 /1 to finish in first 4    sp was 66/1  so if u had 1e ew on track ud win 80 roughly.if u done it on bf at sp ud get 1270e!!   ring is fcuked.  all going the same price which is  usually.15/20% smaller than bf price..as for anything over 8/1 the difference is well over 40%...anyone taking on the ring is doing so at a big disadvantage.