punchestown fancies

5:20 Our Victoria ew - looks a decent prospect and was beaten by in a good mares bumper in April.  Has won two races between the flags and her runner-up position in a Castletown-Geoghan winners race 10 days ago.  That race was the second fastest of the day and 22 seconds quicker than the Open (winner in OV's race carried 12-0, OV carried 11-9, Open winner carried 12-0).  The winner of OV's race was winning his third race on the spin, the third (12 lengths behind Our Victoria) was beaten a length last weekend in a winners of one and she represents a top stable in this.

Agree Our Victoria the NAP. Anyone any word on Eddie Hales runnner? Can ready one in fairness

The NAP has to be Voler La Vedette. People were considering her as a serious Champion Hurdle prospect last season so she should be a model for this. And Colm Murphy has said that she's in very good form too [:)]

I'm keen on Gudnis Gracious me to place in the mares hurdle at over 2/1. She's only 5 and looks like she's an improving type and has enjoyed a very good summer campaign. With the ground perfect for her she's likely to go on in front and make it a test of stamina. She beat St. Devote (rider stole a few lengths on the off) LTO and he smashed a decent field in Listowel LTO....

I also had Rightoeus Man down as one to follow this season but he has disappointed somewhat. Its worth bearing in mind what Lyons yard thought of him last year ......"He's a lovely horse. He doesn't even know he is a colt," said Shane Lyons, brother of the winning trainer.

"He'll be a trip horse next year. He's holding his coat well and if there is another race for him he could come back here.

"We're looking forward to running him over a trip next year and he could be one for premier handicaps. He has all the credentials to get 1m2f or 1m4f." With a pipe opener on the flat he looks of interest with BJG on board

lil ell doesnt look like its off though

hildOfMine2
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Gonna have a cut at the big treble - FL/Voler/Muirhead - reckon it should pay around 4/1


Done the same but added in nicene creed to make it an accum.....gl to all.

Righteous Man very poor there ! nice touch landed on winner

Winner showed his class there, White Star Line looked the winner turning in, look two to follow.

Don't know if it was the ride or greenness but White Star line really should have gone an awful lot closer.

jesus on I'm break n I've no radio all I saw was it goin 4/1 in running thank fcuk it was just greeness

Greenness i'd say GI, experience told for the winner. Both look very exciting. Thought Dessie's would need the run, but was clearly fancied.

Neither look really natural hurdlers, should make chasers to look forward to though.

The winner is a definate chaser in the making but the runner-up jumped well bar the last. Thought the best horse won, he just outstayed the second!

Getting very tempted by this price on Voler

what lunatics laid that beast at 6/4 13/8,lads on drugs laying that against elyadi and ocean bright

Voler

She shud have been odds-on for that race!

Voler different class today,interesting to see how her sister gets on in the Bumper.

Would love to see her over 3miles.

Good stuff childofmine2  treble up........I'm waiting on PC in the last for the 4 timer 7.2/1.....gonna lay off a bit.

Sorry didn't realise your last leg was muirhead...best of luck.

Would love to see her over 3miles
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I think she would run out of petrol as she gets keen mid race most times.

I doubt it will happen as she's of to stud at the end of the season.

She did have first time ear plugs i today, and she did appear to settle great, and din't seem to pull even off a slow pace.

awful ride in the bumper there from robbie mac

WTF was Robbie mac at there? Fixing his fkn googles!?

Why did he take a pull over 1f instead of kicking on??? Very unlike Robbie Mac to do something like that. Let me down for a feckin treble too [>o]

Voler La Vedette would not get 3 miles in a horsebox.

goggles* dc.

He was trying to be smart and got caught, ban on the way.

Poor ride on the runner-up and think thatsurocco, allduckornodinner, nhjunkie and myself got away with it somewhat with the winner.

Front two both potentially very smart though.

Wd lads, sorry was too busy seething.

Volar would have won over three miles today - And on the bridle too. Agree that she is best over shorter tho and would love to see her go chasing too. She looks as tho she's grown over the summer!

Wd on the treble COM, muirhead looked like he was gonna dog it again.
Wasn't fluent at quite a few, judgement reserved.

Mr Cracker and First Lieutenant two gorgeous looking horses with plenty of scope give Gigginstown and Davy Russell plenty to dream about over the coming winter.

The best one may yet to be seen too soapp!
Last Instalment.

Can't wait to see FL go over fences, great picture of his leap at the last on irishracing.com

soapp , i was not particularly taken with fl in the paddock , bit of a wishy washy chesnut . plus he got a little warm and looked beaten turning in . not one i would rate to highly atm .

Happy enough with the mcnamara ride alright! Had a little Rev/Forecast too

Si C'etait Vrai take anyones eye of the Gigginstown mob?

Certianly have plenty of ammo and as always some good winners on here today, on to tomorrow

p2p have a fleet of p2p maiden winners to run this season under rules. The main two for me are Last Installment and First Lieutenant. I know workrider that he may not have been the most visually impressive in victory today I'm pretty confident that FL is a 140 horse at least. Your right Princess D'Anjou Si C'etait Vrai has the makings of a decent type judging by his bumper run. Rathlin is another horse who will win plenty races. I urge anyone looking for horses to follow to have a look at the 4yo maiden in Lemonfield this year. The only three runners who completed the course to have run in p2p's since all won (the 6th, 7th and 8th finishers). It will prove a very fruitful source of winners between the rails in the future. I would also suggest that people have a look at the Emma Lavelle stable tour in the post tomoro. She has a stable chock full of winners for the coming season.

Congratulations on your tipping 5 of the 7 winners today thatsurcoco. This has come on the back of a number of other informative selection lists in recent weeks. The quality of tipping on here definitely goes into the ascension when the jumps get going.

allduck , i was talking about him in the paddock , he got a little warm and was on his toes a bit , not always a good sign , especially as it was a cold enough day down there . his attitude on the track was commendable , as having looked sure to be beaten he stayed on really well ... did he show any signs of temperment in p2ps allduckornodinner ?

No workrider it was pretty clear sailing for him when he won in Kilfeacle, put the race to bed very quickly. Similar to what he did when winning his bumper in gowran park. He wouldn't be fully wound up yet giving his connections plus they walked for the most part which didn't suit him and the ground was plenty lively enough for him. When he gets to come off the pace in a strongly run race you will see a different horse. DOC has ridden a ton of good horses and when he really rates one then they are generally something special. I wouldn't have any worries about his temperament anyway.

fair enough allduck , i'll keep that in mind , there will be a few withdrawls tomorrow as the ground is pretty fast atm .

Thank You for the write-up Allduckornodinner.  Glad to hear there's plenty of winners coming out of the race.

Didn't realise you'd nearly gone through the card thatsurocco - well done, hopefully a very profitable day for you!

ya had a profitable day.hopefully it continue tomo.

Wd thatsurcoco, I forgot about you down the bottom there[;)] ( I go by newest posts first)

Cheers for that Allduck!
Have both those horses at the top of my list of horses to follow this season.
Any thoughts on Ballymak? He looked promising last year.

down, backed ballymak when he won at navan , and thought he was always going to make a chaser . sorry for jumping in .

No worries workrider, Backed him that day too, from what I recall his pt2pt form was very good, slammed nto winners(?).

i overheard davy saying that he was very happy with him when he came in after that victory at navan . should be one for the coming season .

Cheers, the form of that win is very good, with Puyol a well btn 2nd.

will you make down royal downallstar ?

ANYONE GOING DUNDALK FRI NIGHT  ?

c'mon down for real racing , punchestown tomorrow

LOOKS GOOD CARD BUT HAVE SETTLE FOR DUNDALK /DOWNPATRICK FRI SAT . U WIN TODAY ?

Well done to OP.

A man tips five from seven winners at the top of this post and gets little recognition from the cognescenti here!  Come on where are your values gentlemen?

2.45 - Bachelor Lad e/w @12s
3.15 - Luska Lad
3.45 - Kaiser say so e/w @8s
4.15 - Loosen My Load
4.45 - Sizing Europe
5.15 - Katlins Fancy e/w
5.45 - Staying Article

GL

right lets see if we can better yesterdays 5/7.
1:Start Me Up
2:Luska Lad/baron del f/c
3:silent jo e/w
4:loosen my load
5:sizing europe
6:ballygill gale
7:joe smooth

gl all

Nearly certain Ballymak was put down

8/11 Sizing seems a good price given the relevant ratings .  1.84 etc on here is even better , unless the deduction factor rears its ugly head .  Cant see any danger .

Kelly,the danger is the trip,he'd be 1/4 in a 2ml 4 or less  against these.

Good day yest coco, wd


I am very surprised how big a price Sizing is even with the doubts about the trip (which i think personally he wil get)

17:15 - The Fox's Frolic.  Won six races between the flags thus far in his career, had three quiet runs over fences in Beginners races and a race that put him spot on at Rathcannon (Sky's The Limit in behind though undoubtedly improved massively for the run). The winner of that was a useful horse under rules and makes his handicap debut in this QR race for joint-Champion Lady rider Liz Lalor off just 92.  The one they all have to beat, big prices have gone but still some 11/2 around.

still not convinced by china rock so fancy siegemaster w/o fav . hope the light holds up , it was nearly dark when i left before 2nd last yesterday , the're cutting it fine imo.

Yes you are right booby.s Ballymak was put down from what I can remember. Pity as he could have been a decent class stayong chaser.

Tricky day today but the bet for me has to be Sizing Europe. I can see him getting the trip today no problem and at 4/6 or better he is a punt in my eyes.

Just a word of caution with The Fox's Frolic Princesse D'Anjou. He turned a little bit iffy towards the end of last season after taking a pearler of a fall one day and I would just have a qustion mark over his attitude at times.

If any of you are into golf there looks to be a very good betting opportunity in the Frys.com Open which starts today. The evens on Rickie Fowler to beat Troy Merrit and Tim Petrovic in their opening day threeball looks a stonking bet as highlighted by Steve Palmer in todays RP.

2.45 Mackeys Forge ew
3.15 Luska Lad
3.45 Feast or Famine
4.15 Loosen my Load NAP
4.45 Sizing Europe NB
5.15 Topofthemornintou ew
5.45 Joe Smooth

Good Luck all

I have to agree with The Fox's Frolic. Thrown in at the weights. His last run was in an open Point to Point where he finished second, beaten a length by Gaspar (a Grade 3 chase winner and consistant performer in points) with Sky's the Limit behind in fourth. Good lady jockey on board, will love the ground and trip. 11/2 is very good value

The handicap hurdle is a very tricky race. Sinbinned was heavily backed last time out (14/1 - 9/2). I can see this one being well backed again with R. Walsh on board but my preference is for The Legislator each way at 16/1. This one was given a nice handicap rating, is very lightly raced and has improved everytime it has run.

Cheers lads, ffs was really lookin fwd to seeing ballymak

Thanks for the heads up Duck :)

3.15 Luska Lad
4.15 Loosen My Load
4.45 Sizing Europe
5.45 Joe Smooth

Mug Trebles and acca

And i av to go along with the chaps above, The Foxes Frolic my Nap too

3.45 Mutadarek(Nap) Hopefully will be put into the race today with a view to winning it! Ran on well last 2 times without being asked a serious question!

Ballymak was not put down, alive and well.

Cheers Frank, just made my day

Are you sure Frank? I remember when Michael O' Leary was interviewed by the RP earlier this year he was on about how tough the NH game was and about horses getting hurt or killed. He definately mentioned Ballymak as being in this bracket and I thought he said he was dead. That's a good bit of news if true.

Did a tendon duck, but back in training now.

"This year alone I've lost almost 15 horses - five nice horses - either dead or with tendons. I had a horse with Gordon Elliott, Ballymak,  who beat Puyol in his maiden hurdle in November. Next morning he pulls out lame, tendon, gone for a year and we may not see him again.

why is the fav in the first 11/10,beaten in a egg an spoon race last time surely theres something to beat it

17:15 Topofdemornintou e/w

Loosen My Load is a stunning jumper of a fence.

Yup, surprised how close the 2nd got to him though but had plenty left in the tank i suppose

Sizing 1.9 - if he starts gettin close to 2 gonna be bettin territory

Sizing Getting into VLV territory now

2....you have to

2.2[smiley:crazy]

Had to back sizing at that price.

2.2 on here

Switched for 3 mins and now 2.22

Backed at that, be rude not to

2.32 had another bit on

Cannot leave 2.32 go. on big

Was hopin China Rock would jump slowly or something to help but pingin em so far

Sizing pinged everyone so far though

Oh well, seemed to stay ok Andrew Lynch was slow enough to get after him, would nt have won anyway mind

Fitness told.

Ruby out rode him on a fit horse.
Hope they stay at 3miles.

Hope i'm wrong but cannot see Sizing Europe being as good over 3 miles as he's been over 2 miles.

bumper winner looked useful

i was there today and i have to say it was a disgrace the way punters were treated by de bromhead . a 4 horse race and s .e. never appeared in the ring  till just before they were due to leave the  parade ring , as i was bursting to go to the loo i only caught sight of him as he was about to go onto the course proper . this lack of respect for punters is detrimental to racing . i hope he recived a fine for his trouble . sadly for me like a lot of punters on here i then proceeded to back this fellow simply because of his price . badbrokes rep on course layed it for the lot ,he took bet after bet , i should have copped on .

just goes to show, if something is too good too be true, it usually is........... someone knew, bigtime. i smell a fish.

You could argue the same about Luska Lad (1/3-4/6) today and Voler Le Vedette (odds on-6/4) yesterday. Swings and roundabouts lads. The only thing I will say about todays race is that ruby was using his brain and Andy Lynch looked after Sizing as best he could. I wouldn't right the horse off after today anyway. He has generally always been at his best after christmas anyway.

Was always the danger, It was worth the risk at the price imv.

When Kicking King stepped up to 3miles for the first time at Down Royal he was giving a similar ride, won the King George 2 runs later.

Best Mate was also beaten first time over the trip, in the KG, he was riden to get the trip, connections admitted straight away they messed up. Won the Gold Cup next time out.

Sizing was riden to get the trip, he was also not as fit as a very good winner.

All things being considered the Gold Cup trip & course are very unlikely to suit on all know evidence about S E.
I think connections are making a huge mistake with the horse going this route as there's plenty of Grade 1's to be won with this horse elsewhere.

I`m struggling to see the correlation between Kicking King failing to beat BOS at a soggy Down Royal then hacking up around a fast track on good ground and yesterdays race down.
Riding horses to get a longer trip applies more to larger fields. Yesterdays race looked the perfect opportunity to use his speed if he really did get it. He must have has a good blow afterwards.
Personally speaking, I think he`s a hugely overrated animal. Not a fan.