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7.35pm Saturday
New Plymouth
Long range forecast is rain on Friday followed by showers all weekend
NEW ZEALAND: 15 Israel Dagg, 14 Cory Jane, 13 Conrad Smith, 12 Benson Stanley, 11 Joe Rokocoko, 10 Dan Carter, 9 Jimmy Cowan; 8 Kieran Read, 7 Richie McCaw (captain), 6 Jerome Kaino, 5 Anthony Boric, 4 Brad Thorn, 3 Owen Franks, 2 Keven Mealamu, 1 Ben Franks.
Reserves: 16 Aled de Malmanche, 17 Neemia Tialata, 18 Sam Whitelock, 19 Victor Vito, 20 Piri Weepu, 21 Aaron Cruden, 22 Zac Guildford.
Ireland: 15 Robert Kearney, 14 Tommy Bowe, 13 Brian O'Driscoll (captain), 12 Gordon D'Arcy, 11 Andrew Trimble, 10 Ronan O'Gara, 9 Tomas O'Leary, 8 Jamie Heaslip, 7 David Wallace, 6 John Muldoon, 5 Mick O'Driscoll, 4 Donncha O'Callaghan, 3 John Hayes, 2 Sean Cronin, 1 Cian Healy.
Reserves: 16 John Fogarty, 17 Tony Buckley, 18 Dan Tuohy, 19 Shane Jennings, 20 Eoin Reddan, 21 Jonathan Sexton, 22 Geordan Murphy.
08:35
TV New Zealand (1/7) v (33) Ireland (7)handicap between 12/15
Thoughts?
A few new faces in the NZ side that i dont know much about but ROG starting at 10 for Ire =
If its that wet over there, the handicap a bit high maybe?
New Plymouth
Long range forecast is rain on Friday followed by showers all weekend
NEW ZEALAND: 15 Israel Dagg, 14 Cory Jane, 13 Conrad Smith, 12 Benson Stanley, 11 Joe Rokocoko, 10 Dan Carter, 9 Jimmy Cowan; 8 Kieran Read, 7 Richie McCaw (captain), 6 Jerome Kaino, 5 Anthony Boric, 4 Brad Thorn, 3 Owen Franks, 2 Keven Mealamu, 1 Ben Franks.
Reserves: 16 Aled de Malmanche, 17 Neemia Tialata, 18 Sam Whitelock, 19 Victor Vito, 20 Piri Weepu, 21 Aaron Cruden, 22 Zac Guildford.
Ireland: 15 Robert Kearney, 14 Tommy Bowe, 13 Brian O'Driscoll (captain), 12 Gordon D'Arcy, 11 Andrew Trimble, 10 Ronan O'Gara, 9 Tomas O'Leary, 8 Jamie Heaslip, 7 David Wallace, 6 John Muldoon, 5 Mick O'Driscoll, 4 Donncha O'Callaghan, 3 John Hayes, 2 Sean Cronin, 1 Cian Healy.
Reserves: 16 John Fogarty, 17 Tony Buckley, 18 Dan Tuohy, 19 Shane Jennings, 20 Eoin Reddan, 21 Jonathan Sexton, 22 Geordan Murphy.
08:35
TV New Zealand (1/7) v (33) Ireland (7)handicap between 12/15
Thoughts?
A few new faces in the NZ side that i dont know much about but ROG starting at 10 for Ire =
If its that wet over there, the handicap a bit high maybe?
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Can we stop this absolute ****ing mindless **** on the forums. Can't somebody just put up a thread about the national rugby team without somebody making a braindead comment.
the comment was a joke!!! BJG knew that hence why he didn't reply!!!
so go away and stop crying on your keyboard FFS!!!
so go away and stop crying on your keyboard FFS!!!
VENUE & TIME: Yarrow Stadium, New Plymouth, Saturday June 12, 19:35 NZT.
HEAD TO HEAD: Played 22 - New Zealand 21, Ireland 0, Draws 1.
LAST TIME: November 15, 2008 (Dublin) - New Zealand 22-3 Ireland.
WALKING WOUNDED: Both teams are showing the wear and tear associated with modern-day rugby. The All Blacks are without: Ali Williams (Achilles), Isaia Toeava (hip), Sitiveni Sivivatu (shoulder), Ma'a Nonu (knee), Stephen Donald (shoulder), Mike Delany (shoulder), Jason Eaton (knee), Mils Muliaina (knee) and Richard Kahui (sternum).
Ireland is without its iconic lock Paul O'Connell and others unavailable include centre Fergus McFadden (jaw), hooker Jerry Flannery (calf), Shane Horgan (stomach), Rory Best (ankle), Keith Earls (groin) and Stephen Ferris (cheekbone).
FORM: New Zealand is traditionally a slow starter in its home Test window but in more recent years that has been the result of a disrupted programme of preparation due to Super 14 finals commitments. That didn't prove an issue in 2010 and the All Blacks' coaches have been able to have more time with the side. Whether that results in an improved start remains to be seen. Equally, Ireland, which lost its tour warm-up game to the Barbarians last Friday, has hardly had the most ideal preparation either with a solid core of its top players forced to withdraw from the tour. On that score both teams would go into the Test underdone as combinations.
WHO'S HOT: Ireland has solidity in its backline based around its outstanding centre and captain Brian O'Driscoll, still at the forefront of centres in the world game. Add to that his midfield partner Gordon D'Arcy, win Tommy Bowe and first five-eighths Ronan O'Gara, and there is a fair core of experience for New Zealand to overcome. David Wallace represents a threat in the loose, paired with No.8 Jamie Heaslip while prop John Hayes has been around the traps for a good period of time.
New Zealand will be looking to its experienced core to set the example in the Test. Lock Brad Thorn had another outstanding season with the Crusaders and in combination with experienced hooker Keven Mealamu he will be looking to mix it in the tight. Richie McCaw will be a taskmaster for the opposing loosies while in the backline, the inside combination of halfback Jimmy Cowan and first five-eighths Dan Carter can be expected to play a big role in New Zealand's attacking strategy. Both wings, Joe Rokocoko and Cory Jane, can expect plenty of work.
WE THINK: It is a daunting task Ireland faces with so many of its key players out of consideration. The limitations caused by such a high list of injuries are exacerbated when away from home. This is an All Blacks team which has been also hit by injuries but with up and comers included and having a chance that under normal circumstances might not have been available to them until later in their careers. That should make them a formidable combination, and under the circumstances Ireland might struggle to cope with the individual and team skills the All Blacks are able to unleash.
A good piece from the all blacks website imo - NZ -6 on the ht handicap @ 5/6 could be a good bet, a lot of these players wil want to make an impact after gettin their chance and could come out of the blocks quickly
HEAD TO HEAD: Played 22 - New Zealand 21, Ireland 0, Draws 1.
LAST TIME: November 15, 2008 (Dublin) - New Zealand 22-3 Ireland.
WALKING WOUNDED: Both teams are showing the wear and tear associated with modern-day rugby. The All Blacks are without: Ali Williams (Achilles), Isaia Toeava (hip), Sitiveni Sivivatu (shoulder), Ma'a Nonu (knee), Stephen Donald (shoulder), Mike Delany (shoulder), Jason Eaton (knee), Mils Muliaina (knee) and Richard Kahui (sternum).
Ireland is without its iconic lock Paul O'Connell and others unavailable include centre Fergus McFadden (jaw), hooker Jerry Flannery (calf), Shane Horgan (stomach), Rory Best (ankle), Keith Earls (groin) and Stephen Ferris (cheekbone).
FORM: New Zealand is traditionally a slow starter in its home Test window but in more recent years that has been the result of a disrupted programme of preparation due to Super 14 finals commitments. That didn't prove an issue in 2010 and the All Blacks' coaches have been able to have more time with the side. Whether that results in an improved start remains to be seen. Equally, Ireland, which lost its tour warm-up game to the Barbarians last Friday, has hardly had the most ideal preparation either with a solid core of its top players forced to withdraw from the tour. On that score both teams would go into the Test underdone as combinations.
WHO'S HOT: Ireland has solidity in its backline based around its outstanding centre and captain Brian O'Driscoll, still at the forefront of centres in the world game. Add to that his midfield partner Gordon D'Arcy, win Tommy Bowe and first five-eighths Ronan O'Gara, and there is a fair core of experience for New Zealand to overcome. David Wallace represents a threat in the loose, paired with No.8 Jamie Heaslip while prop John Hayes has been around the traps for a good period of time.
New Zealand will be looking to its experienced core to set the example in the Test. Lock Brad Thorn had another outstanding season with the Crusaders and in combination with experienced hooker Keven Mealamu he will be looking to mix it in the tight. Richie McCaw will be a taskmaster for the opposing loosies while in the backline, the inside combination of halfback Jimmy Cowan and first five-eighths Dan Carter can be expected to play a big role in New Zealand's attacking strategy. Both wings, Joe Rokocoko and Cory Jane, can expect plenty of work.
WE THINK: It is a daunting task Ireland faces with so many of its key players out of consideration. The limitations caused by such a high list of injuries are exacerbated when away from home. This is an All Blacks team which has been also hit by injuries but with up and comers included and having a chance that under normal circumstances might not have been available to them until later in their careers. That should make them a formidable combination, and under the circumstances Ireland might struggle to cope with the individual and team skills the All Blacks are able to unleash.
A good piece from the all blacks website imo - NZ -6 on the ht handicap @ 5/6 could be a good bet, a lot of these players wil want to make an impact after gettin their chance and could come out of the blocks quickly
ricky - while I agree with your first post, surely the silly smiley face gave away the fact he was joking?
Ireland HT New Zealand FT will be my bet.
We will give them a good game and go down by about four pts I would say. This is not a great NZ team by their excellent standards.
We will give them a good game and go down by about four pts I would say. This is not a great NZ team by their excellent standards.
Is it going to be on RTE live or just the delayed highlights??
Id be wary of backing Ireland to lead at any stage of game let alone at half time!!Usual set-up for the money buyers at those odds.
Still plenty of experience in the Irish team and I think Ireland have too much about them these days to simply roll over and let the all Blacks do what they like. Probably fall short of winning again but I can't see more than two scores in it, definitely wouldn't be in the doom and gloom camp regarding this match. In fairness bookies handicap mark(-13)is pretty good and has something in it for both sides of opinion.
i think we are out of gas and will ultimately struggle but rain could make it interesting
Have backed NZ -6 on de ht handicap at evens with Ladbrokes, should be a few new faces out to impress so should come outa the blocks quickly
on a dry pitch would give the Irish every chance of covering the cap and even an outside chance of victory. This time last year, the likes of Heaslip, Wallace, BOD, Kearney and Bowe were all on song against the Boks and all play tomorrow. Think the forecast not good and that could lead to a slog and our front five going to struggle. Cronin a decent prospect but struggled with his throw when a bit of pressure came on last Fri night. Ireland to cover the cap still the bet.
sh0ouldnt be down there ...headin 4 fifty plus hammerin here!
50!!! I`d snap your hand off for that. It`ll be 50 by HT.
WOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
im more pissed that i COULDNT get on new zealand -13... somethingwrong there.
Weve the hill and the wind in the second half.....were bound to take them now!
Yes my idiocy must be right up there with your sense oh humour!
They are playin a f00kin stormer her in the 2nd half to be fair
59-28
59-28
Big time. Credit where it`s due. Heaslip owes them big time.
I didn't get up early enough to put on Ireland Ht New Zealand Ft but Il retire from rugby betting as that was an awful call :)
Well played second half lads positives to be taken from the likes of Buckley and Touhy.
Heaslip owes them big time and deserves a long suspension for what he did every bit as bad as the eye gougers.
Well played second half lads positives to be taken from the likes of Buckley and Touhy.
Heaslip owes them big time and deserves a long suspension for what he did every bit as bad as the eye gougers.
Real character shown there. It was looking a lot worse at one stage. Move on.
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