Brazil price after group?

3-1 10-3 imo.

if they win in style they can, u really need one of the top teams to go out at the last 16 stage for odds to really tighten up. Have 3k on Brazil already.

Brazil play in Johannesburg; Johannesburg; Durban, and if they win their group Johannesburg (5,700 feet).

That is an exhausting schedule for the oldest outfield (shirts 2-11) in the World Cup.  The average age of the Brazil outfield is 29.3 years.

The Germans may not have a great squad of stars but surprise, surprise, their outfield is the youngest in the World cup at 25.6 years.

This altitude thing is way overstated.

You ever watch the South American qualifiers ricky?

u need to ask johhny ward about football value!

There's a ****ing world of difference between La Paz at 12000ft, Bogota at 8000ft and Johannesburg at 5000ft. 5000ft shouldn't cause significant trouble. 7000ft plus is where you'll start to have trouble.

It is still an advantage for the likes of Mexico playing France  at 1230m, when the Mexican's play at 2250m, and the French have to acclimatise. Its still an advantage imv.

Not saying it's totally irrelevant, just saying it's not a big deal, not enough to factor it into betting imo. Madrid, for example, is at 3000ft.

I played socially in Africa at 4,200 feet for two years.  Anyonw who says it is no biggie is someone who hasn't.

Madrid, for example, is at 646 metres or 2,119 feet.

In the racing Post supplement it said the French spent time cycling in the Alps, while the Italians trained at Sestriere (6,676 feet).

Johannesburg is at 5,700 feet.

holy jaypurs, madrid dropped the bones of 900 feet in 20 minutes there!

No offence but unless you're flying over and back every week it'd be hard to quantify. Anecdotal evidence doesn't mean anything. There is also the issue of humidity where you were. You're not a professional either.

The issue if there is one will come from a sudden change in altitude, teams being based in 1 altitude level descending or ascending to another, it's something I'll watch out for, this can affect performance alright but for teams with even a few days acclimatisation time at the level the game is taking place there won't be any significant problems.  Probably not moreso than usual in even in tough extra time games.

One thing to note is the ball will also travel fractionally differently between the 2 levels, you might see some teams trying a lot of pot shots to test the keeper. If a keeper is used to the ball at a different altitude he could be put off just enough to make a bad mistake.

ricky butcher Joined: 06 Sep 05
No offence but unless you're flying over and back every week it'd be hard to quantify. Anecdotal evidence doesn't mean anything. There is also the issue of humidity where you were. You're not a professional either

Where I was had a six months rainy season and a six months dry season (nil rain) so am familiar with different conditions.  I was a professional (business not soccer).

I did play in a friendly match with five internationals, five of us, and their national manager (friend of Harry Redknapp).  He just wanted a kickabout on a Saturday to keep them off the booze as they got ready for the african nations cup.  We were terrible players who played two or three times a week, so although very bad we were fit, and knew a bit about playing at altitude.