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Swinia
02 Jun 10 11:44
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One law for the rich and another for the poor


AT Tipperary last Thursday week the stewards found what could be best described as a real easy touch in the shape of a horse called Ballyronan Boy.

He is in the care of little-known Co Laois trainer, Michael Connell, and was partnered by 7lbs claimer Ronan Whelan.

Ballyronan Boy finished seventh of ten behind Jembatt, who won by five and a half lengths, and his performance didn’t half exercise the minds of the stewards.

They decided the racecourse had been used as a training ground and Ballyronan Boy was suspended for 60 days.

In addition Connell was fined 1,500 and Whelan suspended for seven days and ordered to forfeit his riding fee.

Ballyronan Boy went off the complete outsider of the field at 66-1 and if the bookmakers had gone 166-1 they still wouldn’t have been able to attract a euro for the horse.

And why? Because he simply didn’t have the form to be competitive and only an optimist, a dying breed apparently, or someone who liked his name, would have been tempted to invest.

Ballyronan Boy, a 50-1 shot, started life with a what looked a reasonable effort when eleven and threequarters of a length fourth behind Blasket Spirit at Cork in April.

He made the running that day, before fading in the straight. The third horse, Prince Jock, seven lengths in front of Ballyronan Boy, has since finished a disappointing sixth at Killarney.

Sarsfields Legend, a place and three lengths behind Ballyronan Boy, and with a lowly rating of 64, then went to Navan and was a remote ninth of 12 behind Ghetto Gospel in a handicap.

The reality is the form of the Cork race is worth about the price of a half-decent bag of chips! Ballyronan Boy then went to Leopardstown, stepping up two furlongs in trip to a mile and a quarter, was again a 50-1 chance and ran near the front.

The son of Catcher In The Rye began to backpedal with less than four furlongs to travel, trailing home ninth of 12 behind Troas.

He was beaten about 27 lengths and, remarkably, was 16 lengths adrift of eighth placed, Devils Bit.

And so onto Tipperary. On what we knew of the horse, Ballyronan Boy couldn’t possibly score and there was no need to give him a second thought.

That was the conclusion one had to arrive at, even in a race which was not going to take a lot of winning.

Jembatt, as we know, bolted in, having produced a shocker when going off favourite at Dundalk previously.

Second was Mutamaleq, who had his limitations exposed at Killarney and the third, Bass Rock, had indicated in the second of his two outings last season that he was not to be trusted.

The layers, arguably the best judges of all, would have been well aware of this information and, yet, were more than comfortable to put 66-1 against Ballyronan Boy’s name.

He was ridden differently on this occasion by Whelan and restrained towards the back of the ten-strong field.

Truth to tell, he was never going to get involved, although making some late progress. It wasn’t so much what the horse did, however, but rather Whelan’s display which had to attract your attention.

The head-on clearly shows him making a couple of token attempts to hit the horse and it didn’t look good.

But if he had literally butchered Ballyronan Boy would it have made a whole pile of difference? The answer has to be a resounding no.

WHAT makes all of this simply hilarious is the concept of using the racecourse as a training ground.

Since the start of the current flat season, and in many seasons past, a number of trainers in this country, with monster reputations next to Connell, have used the racecourse as a training ground practically every day.

If the stewards have difficulty indentifying those having a "look" then all they have to do is head into the betting ring and some of the wide boys down there will give them as much help as is needed.

There is simply no sense that this is a level playing pitch and you have to be forgiven for thinking there’s one law for the rich and another for the poor.

Connell and Whelan were soft targets. The next time you see one of the major trainers giving a horse an "educational" run you can bet your bottom dollar no action will be taken. And that’s just a bit sickening.
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Report glencroftt June 2, 2010 12:06 PM BST
great article......... irish racing is run for and by a very small group to breeders and owners. they employ trainers and jockeys to do their bidding...... as for the bookies - they just cash in on the system (you can't blame the bookies for the ills of irish racing). There needs to be a clean out at the top of HRI / Turf Club / Dept Agriculture.
Report downallstar June 2, 2010 12:07 PM BST
What an absolute joke!
Report workrider June 2, 2010 3:13 PM BST
swinia, sadly everything you wrote is true ,its always the little man getting stung , never the big boys .
Report wherethefenianssleep June 2, 2010 3:56 PM BST
very good article from probably the only competent sports journalist in ireland.
Report Hemingway June 2, 2010 4:22 PM BST
Yeah I agree Fenian. There are no good sports writers in Ireland except Keane. He's the only one. The rest, useless. You should have a go. Pat and yourself could carve it up between you.
Report wherethefenianssleep June 2, 2010 4:29 PM BST
name 5.
Report ricky butcher June 2, 2010 4:35 PM BST
Tom Humphries, Vincent Hogan, Gerry Thornley, Colm O'Rourke, Miguel Delaney, Barry Glendenning, Keith Duggan.

There may be more in the tabloids.
Report thegalwayman June 2, 2010 4:44 PM BST
Gerry Thornley? The man is a cretin.
Report wherethefenianssleep June 2, 2010 4:47 PM BST
u seem to equate writing for a broadshet with intelligence. Thornley is hopeles at rugby and hogan is a jackass, for u to suggest them only conirms your ignorance. interesting to note that u picked journalists from a wide range of sports, how could you possibly be so expert at such a wide range of sports to deem them competent.
Report jimeen June 2, 2010 4:51 PM BST
I think its highly likely he had one or two of Sundays papers still at home,and decided to pick out a few just to give his argument a bit of credence.In all propability he doesnt know zilch about any of these other journalists,same as myself.
Report Hemingway June 2, 2010 5:04 PM BST
how could you possibly be so expert at such a wide range of sports to deem them competent.


Presumably you don't need to have any knowledge of these sports to deem them incompetent, as you have just done?
Report ricky butcher June 2, 2010 5:07 PM BST
What an ignorant bunch you lot are.

@fenian, when I said "there may be more in the tabloids" it means I think there may be more who write for tabloids. Therefore I'm saying the opposite of what you're saying I'm saying. Learn to read and digest things before hammering on the keyboard blindly.

@jimeen, Tom Humphries doesn't write for a Sunday neither for Gerry Thornley. Barry Glendenning writes in England but is from Offaly.

I don't need Sunday's at home to know the names of 6/7 decent journalists off the top of my head. You lot need to read more, apart from this forum and your own deranged opinions.
Report thegalwayman June 2, 2010 5:18 PM BST
Johnny Ward is the best of the lot.
Report soapp June 2, 2010 6:05 PM BST
Pat Keane is right to a degree.

Wasn't David Casey and Tony Mullins done recently. Now Tony aint a small trainer.

Also the big trainers are seen to be at least making some effort. This was a blatant non trier imo.
Report kavvie June 2, 2010 6:19 PM BST
what would ye think of fame and glorys first "effort"?..if it was trained by a small trainer in a lesser race they would have got done..
Report kavvie June 2, 2010 6:19 PM BST
what would ye think of fame and glorys first "effort"?..if it was trained by a small trainer in a lesser race they would have got done..
Report soapp June 2, 2010 6:26 PM BST
At least he was put into the race with a chance, not like this mickey mouse trainer running on very nicely at the end.

All he wanted imo was a handicap rating of 50 odd.
Report Allduckornodinner June 2, 2010 8:45 PM BST
Fair play to Pat. There are fcuk all people in the racing media willing to speak out about issues like these. I've not generally been a fan of his but at least he is using his position to highlight contentious areas.
Report Biodiesel June 2, 2010 9:20 PM BST
Id rather pull a gun an blow the head off the **** who handed me that fine.

APOB should be penalized, Ill be happy then.
Report wherethefenianssleep June 8, 2010 2:29 PM BST
Hemingway Joined: 18 Nov 03
Replies: 131 02 Jun 10 17:04   
how could you possibly be so expert at such a wide range of sports to deem them competent.


Presumably you don't need to have any knowledge of these sports to deem them incompetent, as you have just done? 



i am constantly amazed by your ignorance. if you need me to explain why your retort is so incredibly stupid i would be happy to do so
Report wherethefenianssleep June 8, 2010 2:30 PM BST
ricky butcher Joined: 06 Sep 05
Replies: 1315 02 Jun 10 17:07   
What an ignorant bunch you lot are.

@fenian, when I said "there may be more in the tabloids" it means I think there may be more who write for tabloids. Therefore I'm saying the opposite of what you're saying I'm saying. Learn to read and digest things before hammering on the keyboard blindly.

@jimeen, Tom Humphries doesn't write for a Sunday neither for Gerry Thornley. Barry Glendenning writes in England but is from Offaly.

I don't need Sunday's at home to know the names of 6/7 decent journalists off the top of my head. You lot need to read more, apart from this forum and your own deranged opinions.

u are a clown. u seem blissfully unaware of this fact.
Report ricky butcher June 8, 2010 3:25 PM BST
You don't seem to be able to make any points, just give out abuse. I'd give up posting if I were you.
Report lustrumm June 8, 2010 3:34 PM BST
Probably not the place for this comment but here goes anyway.

Does anyone else find that Pat Keane overdoes the "Cute Country Hoor" bit.
Anytime you meet him at the races you would have to crack him with a stick to get a word out of him.
He might be ok to highlight the plight of the less heralded connections but he is no advertisement for racing
Report MAGNIER June 8, 2010 3:35 PM BST
just a thick paddy this lad
Report soapp June 8, 2010 7:00 PM BST
I find him most approachable at the races. He always gives me an opinion. And also he always tells me his nap which I find very good.
Report lustrumm June 8, 2010 7:35 PM BST
You could be right Soapp maybe he jusr doesnt like me. The Cute Country hoor bit gets on my ti ts and perhaps he can see I dont like it. I know him well and shouldnt be runninghim down here. He is very knowledgable and I think he could do more for racing if he give it a bit more of a pr effort
Report tocky junior June 8, 2010 9:43 PM BST
Johnny Ward is a bluffer..knew nothing abt racing 3 yrs ago until he went in a syndicate...put his profit year to date on paper every wk last year....it did nt appear this year at all until he was in front
Report MAGNIER June 8, 2010 9:46 PM BST
johnny ward a clueless clown.and a hypocrite writing about people laying horses
Report ricky butcher June 8, 2010 9:49 PM BST
He lurks here but he never responds to anything worth responding to.
Report ricky butcher June 8, 2010 9:50 PM BST
You have good points I mean, I doubt if he'll respond.
Report MAGNIER June 8, 2010 9:52 PM BST
didnt he snitch on league of ireland players a few years back that were betting on matches and a lad on here that worked for a bookies said yeah he knew all about it cause he backed them with his firm?
pots and kettles
Report Temlett June 8, 2010 10:36 PM BST
MAGNIER Joined: 06 May 10
Replies: 939 08 Jun 10 21:46   


johnny ward a clueless clown.and a hypocrite writing about people laying horses


Care to elaborate Magnier?
Report MAGNIER June 8, 2010 10:42 PM BST
what was ure other forum name temlett b4 u were banned?
johnnys rent boy?
Report Temlett June 8, 2010 10:45 PM BST
What does the hypocrite comment mean?
Report MAGNIER June 8, 2010 10:47 PM BST
Where Did The
"Green-Eyed Monster"
Come From?


Main Entry: hyp·o·crite
Pronunciation: \ˈhi-pə-ˌkrit\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English ypocrite, from Anglo-French, from Late Latin hypocrita, from Greek hypokritēs actor, hypocrite, from hypokrinesthai
Date: 13th century
1 : a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion
2 : a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings
— hypocrite adjective
Report Temlett June 8, 2010 10:49 PM BST
That explains nothing in relation to the Johnny Ward comment.

I was interested in why he was a hypocrite as the other comments are quite clear on this thread, but that one doesn't make sense.
Report MAGNIER June 8, 2010 10:50 PM BST
u know as well as i do temmy
Report Temlett June 8, 2010 10:53 PM BST
I will leave you to it so. It can't be that important.
Report kavvie June 8, 2010 11:57 PM BST
id say johnny ward is a good racing journalist.he seems to have a good nose for sniffing out value and i always read his sunday indo column.i think magnier is tgm gone wrong..?he seems very angry..?why?
Report irish_guy_13 June 9, 2010 1:48 AM BST
we all love johnny, hi johnny :)
Report Hot_Dog_We_Have_A_Weiner June 9, 2010 10:03 AM BST
I wonder if Johnny Ward could come on and comment on his article on the Monaghan Utd v Longford Town match that was played on 31st October 2008, taught that was abit rich to say the least!
Report MAGNIER June 9, 2010 10:05 AM BST
was he at it again hot dog?
Report JadeTurtle June 9, 2010 1:24 PM BST
tell us more hot dog...
Report ricky butcher June 9, 2010 1:32 PM BST
http://tinyurl.ie/064
Report MAGNIER June 9, 2010 1:49 PM BST
was johnnys account investigated?
im sure the indo wouldnt like this
Report MAGNIER June 9, 2010 1:53 PM BST
"The thing that makes it look suspicious was that it was people putting on small bets to stay under the radar. Bets of €500 at 6/5 wouldn't raise many eyebrows."
Laugh
Report Hot_Dog_We_Have_A_Weiner June 9, 2010 1:54 PM BST
Thanks Ricky,wasn't able to find the article online earlier, makes intresting reading I'm sure you'll agree.

Wonder if any forum members were able to get a monkey on at 6/5 like was said in it?
Report MAGNIER June 9, 2010 1:57 PM BST
im sure temlett would like to read this
Report Temlett June 9, 2010 6:57 PM BST
I saw the article at the time Magnier.

What exactly is of interest in it other than the nonsense that €500 bets would stay under the radar?

It would be a good price on Monaghan Utd these days alright.
Report MAGNIER June 9, 2010 7:09 PM BST
some lad on here at the time worked for a bookies and he said mr ward took advantage of privilaged information on that game and then wrote a column saying it was a disgrace that this stuff goes on
Report Hot_Dog_We_Have_A_Weiner June 9, 2010 7:19 PM BST
Would the big wigs of the indo approve of that sort of thing?
Report MAGNIER June 9, 2010 7:22 PM BST
not sure dion fanning would like one of his journos to be involved in this sort of thing.and then to make more money out of it by writing a piece on it
Report MAGNIER June 9, 2010 8:34 PM BST
nothing to say for ureself temlett?
Report Temlett June 9, 2010 8:51 PM BST
I wanted to know what the issue was with him. I see what it is now.

Other than that I couldn't care less what someone backs and I don't read the Sunday Indepedent so I don't care what is written in it either.
Report MAGNIER June 9, 2010 8:54 PM BST
glad i could clear it up for u
Report Hot_Dog_We_Have_A_Weiner June 10, 2010 6:20 PM BST
What happened the thread on Johnny Ward?
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