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Even more likely to be a fast finishing 4th.
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Spoils the first to go 1/1 - shock of the year there!
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his going there to win it,no run needed this is aidan o brien were talking about, the 2G a very important race for ballydoyle,hence his record in the race, gound "not a issue" said o brien. It will come to some shock to ballydoyle if his beaten, according to sources they already have him past the post
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wasnt a mile supposed to be too sharp for Golan before he hosed up.
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not for me,. value in the race has increased due to the money on the short priced fav.
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Long time since i looked foward to the reappearance of a 3 year old so much. Not a cent on tomorrow but on at decent prices for the Derby. Looks a bit short tomorrow and Dunlops looks good each way value to me.
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come on lads in heavy an hard
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"Ballydoyle have past the post already"
"my mole says he's better than STS" "he's not even the best in the yard" for flip sakes lads, dont believe anything you hear and only half of what you see Yes he may well prove to be the dogs bo llocks, but 4/1 that he is better than a horse who won everything last season and was perhaps the best horse since shergar to capture the public, give over, yes they may come like buses but: ONE COOL CAT JOHANNSBURG HAWKWING there is each way value to be had tommorrow, if he wins so be it, but not with my money |
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Interesting comments by the racing post experts in todays paper, with their summation , the 2000 guineas will be the hardest race SNA will have all year given his breeding. If he manages to win the 2000 relatively easy you may not see 1/2 for the derby
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Pouring rain in London at the moment.
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Any ground reports? TIA
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said bit of rain overnight
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Got this off the BHA - Racecourse Newmarket
First Race Time 1.55pm Going Good to firm Other Information 3mm of rain since 4pm yesterday. Forecast of sunny spells with the chance of a light shower and temperature reaching 14 degrees. |
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Love this race. Not loving SNA`s price though. Predictions of odds on! He is obviously the one to beat but not even George Washington or Hawk Wing were this short. Crazy.
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his getting very short, their backing him like he wont be beat, vibes must be very strong from Ballydoyle. If he was easy to back id say somthing but this sustained.
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I suppose you have got to rrespect money that would drive this horse odds on, but I can't help thinking 10/11 or 4/5 would be an absoulte nonsense price
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Bio - thats why I started the thread. No ramping here!
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I remember before the RP Trophy I thought his price was idiotic and he made a mockery of that notion. He`s clearly very talented but if he`s going to be beaten it will be today because we wont see him over a mile again.
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For all that APOB will tell us otherwise!!!
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iv backed him
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Just been reminded that I promised the wife and kids a trip to the National History Museum, what pubs in the areaare sure to show the racing?
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its like this if the horse is well forward then he wins it but if at 90% then he gets turned over.
Think ballydoyle need this more than they want it as they go and try to emulate STS achievements. |
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Light rain overnight, not enough to change the ground a lot, sunny on the course this morning but starting to get a bit dark-cloudy-ish now, theyre expecting one or two showers today anyway, whether it arrives by 3 bells or not is anyones guess.
Was out there though and its lovely ground for everyone, no excuses. Calling it 'good to firm' but theres more good in it than firm if you know what I mean, firm is 10 on the stick and its around 8.5/6, good is 8, its basically perfect summer flat racing ground and no one should have any problems, no jar or anything it'll be grand for everyone. I can see why people are worrying because hes never raced on it but it was good the day he won the Beresford, its not really an issue I reckon but we'll see. Getting a bit nervous now :p |
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Last few years the tendency has been for the runners to race up the middle which is the most satisfactory scenario, but I don`t think it will happen today because I reckon Hughes will make a beeline towards the stands rail on Canford Cliffs. He doesn`t want it to drift left again like the last day so that could leave SNA out towards the centre of the course and struggling for cover.
There are too many negatives for me about this fav (trends, pedigree) to even consider betting it at current prices. Good luck to all who do. |
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Propaganda imo. The worst even money shot in history. I wouldny beleive the Lord prayer out of the mouth of anyone with anything to do with Ballydoyle anymore
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I am looking forward to the excuses APOB will make post race.
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im looking forward to what imaginary price biodiesel will have laid off in running
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can lay off now and make e900
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just to let you know Plat Iav taken my money off the table for 1000 profit but Iav 250 on him a while back and thats frozen in the antepost market but ill let that ride, wel see
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Elusive Pimpernel @ 2.3 for a place is my bet here, cant see him out of the 3
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:0 boooooooooil oveeeeeeeeerrrrrrr
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phew!!!! I could lost thousands in that race!!
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One word sums up that crew. Well actually 2 words but I will only put 1 up here
Propaganda |
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posted by xis a ruof 28 Apr 15:38
I was talking to a source very close to the yard and he's not one for lofty predictions, so I nearly fell over when he said 'if St Nicholas Abbey was around last year, you would never have heard of Sea the Stars'! . Obviously only time will tell, but what price do you think is a good price for SNA to finish the season with an higher official rating than STS got in 2009 (135 What a load of p ish. Worse statement on here EVER |
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i lost
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Hype - maybe St Leger horse
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Triumph Hurdle more like.
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Anyone that watched a replay of the RP trophy that thought this horse could come down the hill on fast ground at Newmarket needs another pastime.
this is a typical son of Montjeu 1. Needs more than a mile 2. Needs an eae to be at his best 3. Has an attitude problem 4. Is overhyped |
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I would agree with the first three points there. Not the worst Derby trial i have seen.
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don't like the head carriage
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