Secant Star

Any chance of a quick phone call to Willie, EMI? :|

n/r I gather

ask kavvie, he knows ;)

Is he def out oldbean?

I would just like to know, this lack of info about what looks a very unlikely runner is really pi$$ing me off!

From what i know he is out. Gutted.

Had him at 16s, don't fancy either of the market leaders either :(

backed him myself really gave him a great ew chance :(

As of ten days ago it was touch and go I heard. But with a 4 year old why rush him. I completely agree that WP should have more respect for Ante post punters I know for a fact that there was a problem 10 days ago. Fair play to Alan King very honest and up front

This drift happened a few days ago and nothing came of it. His price is getting back to normal here now.

13/1 for 259 quid aint normal for a horse that is a general 7/1 chance.

well said people talking through their pockets hoping for a run

mullins doing the same with MDH, did a public workout and still hasnt made a decision

Ring Eamon Duignan in Navan Shopping Centre.... tell him you want to take a retail unit off him and say "by the way any word on Secant Star and Barker while your at it"

Alavian looks nailed on imo provided the ground not riding fast ...Barizan a lively outsider at 40's

Mille Chief confirmed as a nr!

Throughout the last few days Alan King has kept punters fully advised of Mille Chief's problems. It would be decent of Willie to do the same if Secant Star has met with a setback - what can he lose?

stated in the post today horse in good form

EMI - same report as that fri before fairyhouse - missed bit of work but nothing about NR and i'll be straight, i'd know pretty quickly but maybe I am wrong!! On at 10's, and this lad is better than decent i believe - i seriously hope all is fine

just been matched @ 9.2

Yep and someone took that 290 which was being offered at around 14s. So not just peanuts being matched. Either the layer or the backer is wrong

would be nice to know either way.usually these wild fluctuations arnt good news..i hope it runs tho!!

How do we know the 290 at 14 was taken?

look at the graph. big lump matched

just laid at 7.6 for a place - does not look good

slight drift again on here today- 11/1 available to back but matched as big as 20/1- looks bad

Glad I don't play the ante post market.

Hope ye were on after the non runner no bet with the bookies.

No concessions from the betfair bookies. :(

This is a runner

amazing..theres no smoke without fire usually..hope not in this case

Horse has had a setback. But pleased this morning and should make it

Thank you chopper!! Hope you're right. :)

Hardy the best of news heading into a Triumph Hurdle. Let's hope he's ok and worth the wait. He'll be some tool if he win this after all the shenanigans!!!

Sure Cooldine was lame 3 hours before the RSA last year!

sure I was lame for a while myself :)

Will run and will win.

Will run and will win.

this is bull from what I heard, no problems at all and all is progressing nicely, week by week

There has been a prob I caqn assure you that, but he is over the worst of it

spoke to WP Mullins there. All systems go for Triumph, seemed to suggest the setback didn't amount to much, but has a worry about one aspect of his profile - more in the paper Sunday.

Cant wait to read Willies article.Its very informative as is Pauls in tomorrows racing post.Two lovely genuine people.

Cheers EMI.

It doesnt have a prayer anyway,it dont really matter whether it runs or not now do it.

What wins Cooldine iyo?

Dont know mate but that wont anyway.

I backed it ew at a 12s because of 3 reasons
1. Poor renewal
2. Seems to prefer better ground
3. Willie's record in the race.

Also backed Carlito B & Advisor, and have a free bet on Barizan at silly odds.

one of the brightest long term prospects in the race, unlikely to win as he totally lacks on the count of experience and if he jumps like he did at gowran he will beat himself.

insightful as ever kl. Are you backing the quirky ex course winner in the hunter's chase tomorrow as mooted during the week?

yes this is his main aim all season and the headgear may have the desired effect.

I may invest, good luck with it.

Willie hardly fills you with confidence in that piece.

keen leader 02 Mar 20:02
doesnt really matter what is entered on saturday, because ballistraw is gonna win the Tetratema.

wd kl......hope you were on emi

WM is hardly going to go to a paper and write up a will win piece. Secant start is missing one run, thats main issue but from what I hear tis lad is a serious animal and when you hear that from this yard then I'd take note. He is not as short as 8's for nothing and connections have nots of horses with the yard and this lad is suppose to be a super start. I would be against him on trends, etc but on wht I hear I will back him blind - cant question what the stable opinion is on the orse, simple as that

i have heard same thing...

Triumph hope Secant Star back on course

BY TONY O'HEHIR 6:01PM 7 MAR 2010

SECANT STAR, as short as 6-1 with Boylesports for the JCB Triumph Hurdle, worked on Saturday following a minor setback and remains on course for the Cheltenham Festival event for which he is third favourite.

His trainer Willie Mullins said on Sunday: "Secant Star gave himself a bit of a bang and was held up for a few days, but he has worked a couple of times since.
"Katie Walsh rode him work on Saturday morning and all seems to be well. He will work a couple of times this week and if all stays right with him then he will be heading for the festival."

Secant Star was a seven-length winner of a maiden hurdle at Gowran Park in January,having fallen at the last when clear on his hurdling debut at Leopardstown's Christmas meeting.

from what i hear Mullins two best shots supposed to be umihiraceathir and flat out for chelt.... not sure this fellow has the class a weak renewal.....Barizan a ridicioulsy price for c&d winner and already rated 140 with improvement to come...personally and publicly Evan Williams believes it has a great chance....

EMI must be admired for using the NUJ pass to gain vital info for his own ante post book ;-) hats off

my advice , only passing it on, would be back this lad before the wkd.

Currently having his 3rd draft within the last month :^0

Sorry - i meant drift!!

Patrick at a preview said last night he should get there.

Advisor has been well-backed for the JCB Triumph Hurdle admid strong speculation Ruby Walsh will ride him in preference to Secant Star.

Paul Nicholls' charge has won both his starts over timber under Walsh, but until Friday had been a longer price than his Willie Mullins-trained rival for the Cheltenham showpiece.

However, Sky Bet have cut Advisor to 15/2 from 10s with Secant Star out to 8s from 7s.

Spokesman Matt Doyle said: "The weight of money for Advisor suggests Ruby (Walsh) will be riding him at Cheltenham. We've seen plenty of bets for him on Friday while Secant Star continues to be weak in the run-up to Cheltenham."

Ruby knows B-)

Anthony Bromley who has the inside word on the Nicholls stable tipped Advisor as his e/w shot at the Cheltenham preview in Harolds Cross last night.

Did he mention the next Kauto Star?

Confirming that ruby rides advidsor

Any word on the mares race chopper?

in fermoy tues night nicholls said long run is the next kauto star!

skybet and weight of money are an odd mix

sorry, update today and only on PC now, Ruby rides nichols, heard this morning, the star missed 2-3 weeks and may be slightly short but its a tough call and ruby went safe - I honestly think it was not a confident call, I'd be happy to go with secant anf PT on board, he still has more potential than any other in the race and only reasn RW not rding it down to feeling if he is fully fit or not, my view is he wouldnt be going if we was way off so i'll stick with the star

i hear secant doesnt jump good enough to win the triumph.

Jumping aint a prob in Triumph. If you can jump adequately you are ok 2 hurdles in last mile with a near 5 furlong run to the last

you wouldnt have walsh getting off this if the reports on here were correct. very strange/ even with a setback .

as you say an mhi paul townend is excellent so that doesnt affect its chance.

absolutely not, its a poor race, top two very much beatable, CB didnt for me look impressive beating ultimate, form not worked out, O Grady horse is tiny, not sure what engine is really there and looks like the day could get to him, may not go left handed, so I think S Star has more potential than these, he jumps fine for me, mistake at leop is well known what happened, and for me is still the bet fo the race, PT will have no problem passing Ruby, just like he did at Naas on Ballytrim, I dont rate nichols horse at all, second last day barnwell could not win next time out. WM has a good record in the race too so heres hoping

ruby interview on post - its his only risky decision decision not to ride this fella, good sign, i knew it was a tight call, dream still alive

Non runner.

NR

mullins on the racing post website video said he wanted a decent cut in the ground for hit so with the training setback looks like hes played safe an kep it back.

Soldatino so for me