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Tbh am not too taken with todays action, so have been looking at Naas's card tomorrow which usually throws up some nice types, and tomorrow's card looks to be a cracker.
Just looking at the Bumper, has thrown up some quality horses the past 5 years -
2009 Coole River 5 11-9 7/4F Mrs John Harrington Mr M Fahey 119
2008 An Cathaoir Mor 5 11-9 14/1 Henry De Bromhead Mr D Roche 111
2007 Venalmar 5 11-12 7/2 M F Morris Mr K E Power 119
2006 Jagoes Mills 4 10-13 12/1 Thomas Gerard O'Leary Ms K Walsh 99
2005 Knight Legend 6 11-7 8/1 Mrs John Harrington Mr R O'Sullivan 106
Half brother to Joncol, Seafield looks the stand out here.
Just looking at the Bumper, has thrown up some quality horses the past 5 years -
2009 Coole River 5 11-9 7/4F Mrs John Harrington Mr M Fahey 119
2008 An Cathaoir Mor 5 11-9 14/1 Henry De Bromhead Mr D Roche 111
2007 Venalmar 5 11-12 7/2 M F Morris Mr K E Power 119
2006 Jagoes Mills 4 10-13 12/1 Thomas Gerard O'Leary Ms K Walsh 99
2005 Knight Legend 6 11-7 8/1 Mrs John Harrington Mr R O'Sullivan 106
Half brother to Joncol, Seafield looks the stand out here.
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Too slow
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Tel Quel would be a big negative here.
I guess they simply did not know how good the dam was going to be when they were using these sires. |
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Longueville Manor is about the only winner i can think of that TQ got, a grey staying hcap hurdler for Jonjo
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Dom D'orgeval won a pile of races in france
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Yes. Harrington's 2nd is the best form on offer of those that have been out
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Yeah I suppose that sire is a negative, even if the half brother and sister both won bumpers fto. Kakagh did finish 4th in a bumper and win a mdn hurdle for the sire. Will see what the market says.
Besides enough good racing. |
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There has been a strong word going around for him though, so sire or no sire, he must be ok.
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Cheers ybm.
Was anyone here at the pt2pt when he was beaten by Sizing Mexico? Looks like he just bumped into one that day!? |
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was there. Well well beaten by sizing. Maybe im all wrong but he didnt look ata all a bumper type that day
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Cheers Shotgun, yeah it takes a goodun to win a pt2pt and a bumper.
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JJ Walsh has a good one in the first i think
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Hope so, backed it the last day, drifted and still won.
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Jessie thinks plenty of her horse that was beaten by Willie's the last day. I would probably side with him in this race but prices will dictate.
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Think Rare Bob will take all the beating tomorrow, he looked amazing after racing last Sunday.
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Ya, good call, definitely back to last seasons form id say
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How can you possibly gauge his wellbeing based on that gallop?
What weight was he carrying? I think it was B Cooper was riding him? If anything that gallop last weekend is going to result in him being artificially short in the market tomorrow, as the books saw everything that the punters did. |
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You're not biased DA? Won't be easy carrying top weight tho!
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joncol is by bobs return and sure he didnt look a bumper type but that didnt stop him winning one in thurles admittedly over 2m2f and finishing 2nd in winners in naas.this looked a big raw type in dromahane and can only improve for the run.has been given time since then and if nolan didnt think he would run well in a bumper he would have been put away with a view to hurdling next year.another plus is ability to handle ground and you need a stayer around naas. looks to have mrs harringtons horse to beat.
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Fair point - just think he was full of himself, looked in great health, I'm just going by what my eye tells me. He just caught my eye, wasn't asked a question fto this season, and is a G1 horse in a hcap, but as always will make up my mind in the morning.
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Just back from Gowran. The whispers I heard were.
Race 1) Silver Friend. Good to see Eddie Power keep the ride now that Kevin Coleman is back. Amazing Kevin takes over on the fav Whodoyouthink. Race 2) Zaritto. Was told all he has to do is stand up and win. Race 4) Casey Supreme. Was told this is the right race for him and should be thereabouts. Race 7) Oscars Well. Heard this was well fancied on his debut. Ran into a smart W P newcomer that day. DAS, Arthur Moore told me a good while back that the dam line represents 80% and the sire line 20% in the offspring. So on that basis Seafield must be good. |
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You're probably right, he defo looked in top form that day. Bit of a puzzlertho as Dessie said time was running out ahead of Chelt but then declares him here.
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Paul Nolans horse in the bumper isnt worth 5 pence,it was destroyed in Dromahane.How is that thing going to win a bumper in Naas.
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Com - that is playing on my mind, does he need this run?
Cheers soapp. Hopefully I won't need to have a bet in the bumper! |
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I think he's probably gonna see how he goes tomorrow. If he wins, he goes to the festival and if not, he stays at home!
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My two E/W bets tomorrow are WHATS NEW in the handicap hurdle and BLUESEA CRACKER in the handicap chase. Christy Roche's horses are coming into form and I think Whats New is ready to run a big race at a nice price. He ran particularly well in a similar grade last time out.He was well backed until withdrawn at the start in his most recent engagement, 16s to 8s. I can see money for this one so get on early. I visualise this one travelling on the bridal going to the last and hopefully he will find the necessary turn of foot. Bluesea Cracker ran no sort of race last time out. This mare who is a Grade 2 winner over fences appears to be very nicely weighted. She should come on for her most recent run and is also going to be a working man's price.
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My two are WHATS NEW a real eye catcher at Punchestown LTO. Also Kings advocate has been running over inadequate trips step up to 3 mile looks likely to bring about further improvement
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angus house is my nap, last time it ran at naas it ran on strongly , 3ml tomorrow up its street .
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Word of warning about Angus House is that he hardly jumped a fence in his only p2p start. Hurdles easier to jump but not by much. Willie probably has his jumping ironed out by now but there must be some sort of doubt
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Sorry he actually had two starts and fell on one of them. Just remembered his other run now.
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on the seafield debate, all I can say from talking to PN is that the mare is unreal, think what was actually said what ' you could throw any stallion at her and she'd spit out a good one, as he actually rated joncol's bobs return as very poor. I backed the another cliche in limerick based on what he told me and i will do the same tomorrow, all these offspring are rangey/scopey types so maybe seafield has progressed again from PTP run
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On Naas card, one stand out bet at 2's - whatdoyouthink - the form is the best in the race by mile, last 3 runs are miles clear of the rest. 7l of summit meeting and going by RP as preview nights, he thinks this last is a superstar. other winners and placed horses in behind, key race is he beat dun masc by 35l(7l behind silver friend last day) odd in a very impressive leop maiden, 18l off dunguib in a grade 1. This lad is a cert today. drop in trip wont matter as he will sit handy and push on from the corner
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sorry, whodoyouthink is the selection in the 1st, not the other lad!
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2.30 - Silver Friend - is shorter than i was hoping though.
3.00 - Zaarito - but couldn't be backing him. 3.30 - Lucky at Last ew @20/1 4.00 - Rare Bob win, Casey Supreme saver. 4.30 - Seeability ew 5.00 - ? 5.30 - Seafield. GL all. |
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Strange Workrider just talking about Angus House at p2p yesterday.Appaently it was the slowest horse in the stable until it moved to WPM when he decided to train it by 4 furlong sprints.Apparently the horse is transformed-so you can forget his p2p form.
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Most top trainers use the fartlek method at the moment.
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The money coming for Montan......
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Rare Bob the only bet for me. Some school last weekend.
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Dessie thinks he's fit enough anyway!
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2.30 Silver Friend
3.00 Zaarito 3.30 Questions Answered E/W 4.00 Rare Bob(NAP) 4.30 Seeability E/W 5.00 No Bet 5.30 A Fine Young Man |