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Still think Robbie is important to Spurs. He is a lot better on the ball than Defoe and Crouch. And Crouch is in woeful form, he was sh!te against Everton on sunday.
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Still think keane has alot to offer celtic wld be a bad move at this stage of his career if he did leave spurs there's alot of prem league teams will jump at the chance to bring him in
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Wonder will raffle snap him up.
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He should still play in the premierleague clubs like villa,everton,sunderland or next year for newcastle.
he should be deployed in the hole as a playmaker doesnt have the legs but has good hold up play,touch and vision. Still has alot to offer if played in the right position. Keane trying to go pass players is near laughable tho |
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He could propably be ok to join Celtic in about 6 years time,when his career is almost over and when he has reached the level of his team mates.At the moment Robbie Keane is pretty decent and he'd be far too big a player to consider signing for that useless shower.Scottish football isnt that far removed from League Of Ireland garbage.
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they could do with a good player
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no way far too early to write off his career. London or Glasgow with his glamorous wife. More likely to sign for LA Galaxy imo ;-)
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Celtic pay 15 grand a week............Keane must be on 50 grand a week.Dermot Desmond ain't noted for throwing money away.
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Going to Celtic would be like going to a Championship side.
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A championship side..........who get to play in the Champions League most seasons with notable defeats of Barcelona, Juventus, Milan, Manchester United, Liverpool, Valencia, Lyon and Porto amongst others in the past decade and a world class stadium that holds 60k. The current team is the weakest it has been for 10 years but anyone who compares that club to a Championship side knows SFA about football. I get the impression that most posters on this thread are happy to see great historical clubs like Celtic, Ajax, PSV, Benfica etc from smalller European countries to continue to be marginalised and allow football to be dominated by a small elite of clubs from Spain, England, Germany and Italy. If thats the sport you want, you are welcome to it. As a Celtic fan, i was actually happy we didnt qualify for the Champions League this year as 1) it would have be an embarrassment and 2) i have become disillusioned by the recurring theme that money dominates all within football. The seeding of the Champions league draw is an example (aped by FIFA in the WC draw) and throws up the same pairings year after year. I never thought i would get tired watching Celtic play the top sides in Europe but meeting AC Milan 6 times in 3 years, Manchester United 4 times in 3 years and Barca 6 times in 4 years just became boring.
Robbie would not be worth the stretch for Celtic - £25k is the current salary cap in place at the club. Would be better spending the wages on a couple of centre halves. |
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Newcastle are a championship side and they have a big stadium and have played against those teams. Celtic are championship quality, like it or not. The fact that they might get into the Champions league is merely an accident of geography.
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leeds????
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Notts Forest
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How did he get to use the word fraud in the opening post?
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like a fraud at celtic
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Surprise, surprise thegalwayman on straight away to have a go at Celtic. I am firmly aware of the standard of the current Celtic side - i dont need you to point this out to me. Newcastle havent won a trophy since the1950s - merely a European power in the minds of deluded Geordies.
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Newcastle played football during the Keegan era that would be totally alien to anything ever produced by any Celtic side.Asprilla and Ginola in their prime along with a whole host of other top players played wondeful football and were involved in propably the most exciting premiership race ever which sadly they lost.There is nothing and i mean nothing exciting about watching Celtic,a horrible club with a horrible hardcore support,who mostly have chosen this rubbish football club as a method of portraying their position in a political divide.
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I think Celtic would struggle if they were allowed to play in the Championship. Lets face it, they are full of players who couldn't cut the mustard in the Premiere League, Maloney, Fortune Flood and Samaras to name a few, not to mention the manager. Why do you think Gordon Strachan went to a Championship side?
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Jimeen.
The O'Neill team of Petrov, Lambert, Sutton, Larsson, Thompson was a decent recent side. And if you know your history the Lisbon Lions side were renowned for their football style. In fact one of Celtic fans gripes with WGS was that they did not play football the Celtic way. Admittedly the current crop are not very good and the Championship is their level. Geographical Circumstances and finances dictate that. However your final comments re Celtic being a horrible club with horrible supporters is narrow-minded beyond belief. Do you write for the Sunday Indo by any chance?!! Keane to Celtic - I would love it but not sure if it would be a good move for him. |
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Sligo- Lambert was an ordinary player so was Petrov,Sutton only played because his time had passed in England and no decent team would employ him,and who exactly is Thompson supposed to be?
I have to laugh at the term the Lisbon Lions,jesus was a boy that time,soccer has moved on light years since then,that was the no electricity and black and white telly era.And finally the bit about geographical circumstances dictate that the current crop are no good,excuse me but as far as i know that pithole Glasgow is situated in the exact place it always has been.In fact geographical circumstances are affording the two sectarian soccer teams in Glasgow an opportunity to participate in the Champions league,an oportunity that their talents do not justify. |
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Lambert was better than average. Won a Champions League Medal in the Centre of the Park for Dortmund. Petrov quality too. Sutton was definitely not past his best when he came to Celtic and had been courted by a number of English Clubs. At the time both Celtic and Rangers were able to attract a better quality of player than they can now as financial gap was not as wide with Premiership.
Sure football has moved on since the Lions but they were ahead of their time and played a good passing game. You can look back at almost any team and say oh they weren't that good and would struggle now. Well equipment, diet, training, etc. has all moved on so you are not comparing like with like. And by the looks of things you would want a Champions League made up only of the elite countries with no place for smaller countries like Scotland, Denmark, etc. Entrance to CL is based on your countries European co-efficient so clubs that do make it are there on merit. Anyway I get the feeling you don't know much about the game and are just happy to have a pop at Celtic and Celtic supporters. Each to their own I guess. I think Robbie would love it at Celtic. Met him at a game up there before and another time met Shay, Stephen Carr and Duffer in Hoops Bar. They certainly don;t share your disdain for the Bhoys even joining in with the sing songs. |
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those who had pops over the years at celtic are basking in it right now as yes celtic and scottish football in general is just about league one standard football with celtic and rangers championship standard
why? because English football and sky money has ruined world football- where are Ajax now, once one of Europe's finest clubs- dying in a small league as TV money is not in same stratosphere its all hulls and their likes fault as they get 30-50 million from TV and buy players that otherwise went to bigger teams in smaller leagues if they couldn't get into the big 6 in England or Spain etc- they now go to hull as hull pay more than Ajax, Celtic, Goteborg, Dinamo Kiev etc, the bigger clubs in the smaller leagues cant compete with any team in premiership full stop and that is why the champions league in now boring as hell fifa and uefa need to do something but god knows they will not hence soccer will diminish unless something is done hull city are never going to challenge for league titles so the 30-50 million teams like that are not only wasted, they are destroying competitiveness in Europe |
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Sligo's ability to have a meaningful conversation on football has been destroyed by the years of self-enforced torture he has endured in supporting both Sligo Rovers and Celtic. No one person should have to watch so much inferior football.
The Scottish Premiership probably isn't that far ahead of the LOI anyway. Both truly abysmal. |
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Yawn.
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Allez you been on the pop again? You know that tricky fourth shandy doesn't agree with you. Our side bet is looking closer now after a tearaway start from FT.
Kev some very good points there especially re: mid level Premiership clubs being more attractive than Ajax and the like. Says it all really! Celtic were quite good today apart from some dreadful defending. Looked threatening every time going forward. |
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Jimeen
why do you laugh at the term lisbon lions ? do you laugh at Pele,Best Moore or Charlton ?, do you laugh at Giles, Bremner,Gray and lorimer, Englands "greatest club side" humbled at Elland Road, and Hampden Park, (switched there because too many people wanted to watch it.) Did you just find out about football since sky tv landed ? |
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Malay- You are referring to football that took place 40 years and more ago,Oxford were in the top tier as were Luton in the last 20 years,now they are both conference teams,Celtic may have been ok in the 60's but they are dirt now and have been with years.Even the nationalistic ideal has been diluted with the peace process.Eventually people got sick and tired of the bombings and the killings and looked for a change,the same as most neutrals have tired of hearing about the Old Firm derbies and the two rubbish Glasgow clubs dominating the pub league that is the Scottish premier.Nobody except the hardcore supporters care about the Scottish premier,who wants to be looking at the likes of Falkirk,Kilmarnock,St Johnstone and St Mirren every Saturday.There has to be something wrong with the mentality of supporters who pack in to Celtic Park when one of these aforementioned teams arrive in Glasgow.
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Everyone is having a pop at each other these days, the finger pointing and beetchiness is a alltime high.
Scottish football is a poor relation of england and will never recover to the 1960's , thats the way the world has went It would be a backward step for any high profile footballer to go and play in the scottish leagues unless he had run out of options, Celtic cant afford the big wages and neither can rangers, Champions league money is vital and bowing out early is another nail in a clubs coffin, liverpool will feel the repercussions if they dont qualify next year, they will feel like celtic and rangers do every year Its a rich clubs game now |
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Jimeen I'm not having a go at you, but you never really answered my question, as regards the Lisbon lions, it wasn't just the historic win over Inter Milan, that gives them legendary status. With the help of the quality street gang emerging, Celtic also reached the final of the European Cup in 1970, beaten by Feynoord, as dutch football emerged as a real power.
We lost to penalties in the European cup sem final to Inter Milan in 1972, and were beaten by Athletico Madrid in 1974 European cup semi final, after beink kicked off the park in Glasgow, although the spaniards outclassd us in the return in Spain. I think we were better than ok. Regarding supporting the team against St Mirren, that is the league we play in, and have to get on with it. Yes, the club is stagnated but believe me Celtic, and Rangers are massive clubs, and who knows what the future will bring,at least we have no debt. By the way i have great respect for shelbourne fans, sligo rovers, east stirlingshire followers who pay their hard earned money at the gate. I have none whatsoever for grown men who wear torres tops in Irish pubs and say they are liverpool supporters, but whatever makes people happy. |
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The paddyknackery links irk many people.
They were huge back in the black and white days on the telly. :-) |
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Malay- With all due respect its nearly 40 years since Celtic were any kind of a force in European football.Nottingham Forest under Brian Clough achieved a hell of alot more while they were at the top than any Celtic team ever did,yet you dont have people harping on about them nowadays.I like watching football,have no affinity with any particular team,but i must admit i dislike Celtic and what they stand for.To me its a no no for people to use their so called support for any particular team as a tool to vent their political hatred towards another section of the community.The same applies to Rangers and the morons that support them.When these two teams meet,sadly the football(which admittedly is trash) is only secondary to what really matters to the bulk of the attendance.
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^^^^APE^^^
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Jimeen I think your misinformed about Celtic, we are not a political organisation, we always been a non sectarian club, our greatest servants Mr Stein, Danny McGrain, Kenny Dalglish were non catholics and grew up as rangers fans, I don't know what Henrik is who cares ?.
Nottinghma Forest should be rightly proud of their european cup successes, as are we of our history, thats what makes the club special. We'll leave it that as I don't want you hating Celtic even more over this discussion, good luck |
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^^^^Another APE^^^
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Jimeen - Celtics Mission Statement attached below to try to explain to you what the club stands for rather than what you percieve it stands for. A bit wordy but worth a read for you to correct your beliefs on Celtic.
And I do agree it's a pity the football is so bad but you can't change your team like you can change your boozer or your bird for that matter. SOCIAL MISSION STATEMENT Introduction Celtic Football Club is legendary and as with most legends as much myth as fact surrounds its history and what the Club stands for today. The Social Mission Statement aims to simply define what the Club stands for and seeks to promote within society. History Celtic Football Club was founded in 1888. Its principal founder was a Marist Brother named Walfrid. The Club had two principal aims: The first aim was to raise funds to provide food for the poor of the East End of Glasgow, an area of the City that was greatly impoverished and had a high rate of infant mortality. Within the East End was a large Irish community and friction was growing between the native Glaswegians and the new influx of Irish. Brother Walfrid saw the need for social integration and his vision was a football club that Scottish and Irish, Protestants and Catholics alike could support. A new football club would be a vehicle to bring the communities together and this was the second aim. The Marist brother sought for the Club to have both a Scottish and Irish identity and hence, the Clubs name |
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jimeen - doesn't know his History. Celtic FC fantastic
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jimeen=king of the west-brits
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Im finished on this thread now but the last 2 posts sum up everything that needs to be said about your average Glasgow Celtic fan.Its actually quite heartening when the argument you are making is bolstered subconciously by the people that dont agree with you through their moronic retorts.
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:D
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