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Dan Chipowski
22 Jan 10 13:25
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Mr P0wer is being torn to shreds :^0
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Report Dan Chipowski January 22, 2010 1:26 PM GMT
He has now claimed that shutting down successful accounts is to save the ordinary punter and allow them to get their €20 on at a good price. :^0

What a joke!
Report awesome impact January 22, 2010 1:31 PM GMT
you mean he is not telling the truth? :|
Report oldbean January 22, 2010 1:38 PM GMT
doubt the 'experts' here will agree with him...
Report Dan Chipowski January 22, 2010 1:39 PM GMT
Even got a ringer to phone in and try to defend them, quite obviously a shop employee :D

A poor show all round.
Report Dan Chipowski January 22, 2010 1:43 PM GMT
Imo, of course :)
Report shaggykev January 22, 2010 1:47 PM GMT
what was said dan?
Report montypanesarutd January 22, 2010 1:50 PM GMT
paddy did fine in a one sided event, muppets ringing up accusing them of all sorts
Report Dan Chipowski January 22, 2010 1:52 PM GMT
Numerous callers in complaining about closed accounts.

And a guy in Dublin who claims he has been recognised in shops he has never visited before, he was enquiring about cctv etc to ask how he was recognised.

Mr P gave the usual waffle about managing liabilities...before saying successful ac's were closed as these 'big hitters' were hoovering up the top prices with their big bets, before the little man in the shop could get on. So he was doing it for the mugs lol

He was then asked how many account holders who lost on a consistent basis had their accounts closed.......To which he replied he did not have the figures to hand :^0 But imagined it was very few.
Report hammy January 22, 2010 2:05 PM GMT
I cant wait for the programme with Spoils and Billy Tills on it.Paddys are by far and away the fairest.
Report bollocky bill January 22, 2010 2:12 PM GMT
.......and you work for????????????
Report shaggykev January 22, 2010 2:13 PM GMT
so what was the controversy?

people not getting as much as they wanted on?

do people ring up and complain when dunnes do special offers but say max 4 per customer

actually they probably do with this show

Did Joe sound shocked by the revelations?
Report bollocky bill January 22, 2010 2:16 PM GMT
Did Mary from Clontarf ring in?
Report ChildOfMine2 January 22, 2010 2:17 PM GMT
All Joe had to say was sure, sure, sure, sure etc.........
Report badger's back January 22, 2010 2:51 PM GMT
some serious waffle from mr power :D
Report downallstar January 22, 2010 2:54 PM GMT
God bless him, looking out for the little guy :D
Report ChildOfMine2 January 22, 2010 2:55 PM GMT
But sometimes the little guy doesn't know he's the little guy LOL.......
Report littledancer January 22, 2010 3:16 PM GMT
Mary from clontarf changed her account to spoils last week
Report kavvie January 22, 2010 5:19 PM GMT
i heard it...jesus he was mad to go in in the first place..to hear him waffling about the big oys hoovering up prices was funny..they refuse big bets in order to help the score merchant.thats a new angle!!
Report soapp January 22, 2010 6:30 PM GMT
Paddy did fine.

After all it is a business, and if the gob s ites throw all their money into the liffey you can't blame Paddy for gobbling it all up. That's my opinion.
Report Eddie Batt January 22, 2010 6:43 PM GMT
Paddy did fine if you are an experienced punter but non punters hearing stories of winning accounts closed and people losing their Christmas money would have been horrified.PP wont get any new customers from today but they might lose a few.
Report Dan Chipowski January 22, 2010 6:50 PM GMT
Eddie, spot on.

They had a caller who rang in about 15 mins after the segment who said he had just called to close his account.
Report Rowley Mile January 22, 2010 6:58 PM GMT
Obviously had been trying to get his account closed i.e; win money but couldn't find the winners so probably should've closed his account anyway, nothing to do with the show, he's obviously a mug and didn't know that flowers only entertain mugs in the first place.
Report Blessington January 22, 2010 7:32 PM GMT
It sounded like me paddy was saying if he was manager of Dunne Stores and he had Cornfakes on special offer if a customer came in and just brought them without also buying the milk.

He would be barred from the store. :0

I think you could also take from the show that if a guy has a account with them he must be a loser if they hadn't already closed it down.
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But sure we all knew that its the losers bookmakers as the only offer I ever hear them offer is your OWN money back when you back a particular loser :(

What price did they paid out on King Bastion 12/1 what was Betfair S/P 210/1?

Ah yeah but didn't they guarnteed the 12/1 . :^0

LETS ALL JUST BE GRATEFULL PADDYS ISN'T MANAGER OF OUR LOCAL DUNNE STORES....Cheers
Report Doyler1987 January 22, 2010 7:40 PM GMT
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Report bobby.s January 22, 2010 8:30 PM GMT
Just to echo some of that.
This is meant to be their master PR guy.
Ppl who bet occasionally even regularly are absolutly shocked with the notion of closed accounts, they dont even believe it could happen and they believe it has to be illegal in some way.
Now that ppl know it actually happens and Paddy Power, and many listening wud fully believe this is the guy who started runs the whole place, fully condones it will be disgusted.
Worst PR ever!!
Report Paw for Paw January 22, 2010 10:10 PM GMT
Taxi driver on the way home from town .... usual small talk going to leop 2moro etc .... he then said to me "did you hear that guy on liveline today from piddy p0wer". I said no ..... He said that pp closed all accounts of winning punters. Now I didn't hear the show, but that's the talk going around with your occasional punters.
Report claimingseven January 22, 2010 10:21 PM GMT
I didnt listen to the show but why did Paddy go on the show on the first place?
Was he replying to a disgruntled punter who rang Joe complaining or did he think he would get some handy publicity?
For a firm who normally are very astute when it comes to PR this seems like a massive own goal.
Expect a load of offers in shops and online now as a face saving exercise.
Report Dan Chipowski January 22, 2010 10:41 PM GMT
He was on the show to respond to a guy who was €15k ahead, and had his accounts closed.

Cue calls from family members of other degenerates who had lost more than that, and were let bet away to their heart's content.
Report Doyler1987 January 22, 2010 10:44 PM GMT
Have a listen..

http://www.rte.ie/radio1/liveline/
Report Isotonic. January 22, 2010 10:46 PM GMT
http://www.rte.ie/podcasts/2010/pc/pod-v-220110-12m59s-livelinepress.mp3



link for any one that didnt hear it
Report Doyler1987 January 22, 2010 10:54 PM GMT
Jaysus this is a ROASTING.
Report Doyler1987 January 22, 2010 10:55 PM GMT
But it does appear everyone wins B-)
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Report Doyler1987 January 22, 2010 11:00 PM GMT
Have to say though, only halfway through listening but I would have loved to ring in to defend Paddy a little. Seriously, no messing. Some of them on here (regardless of results) ought to get over it and move on FFS. Funny though :D

BTW youre man that won €15k, did Bless not tell him Betfair have better odds no? Head in hands man..
Report Isotonic. January 22, 2010 11:01 PM GMT
Bad Pr for Powers. Refunds galore to morrow i bet.. lol
Report Doyler1987 January 22, 2010 11:18 PM GMT
The bloke who thinks they know his name :^0 :^0 :^0 :^0
This is brilliant!
Report bobby.s January 22, 2010 11:21 PM GMT
Terrible defence but you got to feel a bit sorry for him well maybe not why the hell did he come on.
Imagine Mr Blanch on p p dont have a stitch on spoilsports
Report Isotonic. January 22, 2010 11:28 PM GMT
Anybody think that the women was a plant???
Report bobby.s January 22, 2010 11:36 PM GMT
She was jus goin on about the suicide thing tho which was totally unfair.
Muppet for going on no mention of other bookies who are way way worse.
Report Dan Chipowski January 22, 2010 11:37 PM GMT
Iso......read the start of the thread.

I thought exactly the same. A shop employee imo. Without Question.
Report Dan Chipowski January 22, 2010 11:38 PM GMT
Mr Blanch would never do such a thing, he needs anything he says to be scripted and rehearsed 100 times.
Report Doyler1987 January 22, 2010 11:52 PM GMT
Just getting to the women bit here, having a great laugh with the lads, we were actually thinking what she said before she said. Shes the only one speaking sense FFS.. if people lose its hardly PPs fault.
Report bobby.s January 22, 2010 11:52 PM GMT
Didnt they give that guy from the apprentice a job as paddys body double maybe it was him on the radio because I just cant believe how stupid paddy was there
Report bobby.s January 22, 2010 11:54 PM GMT
they do seem to attract the most idiotic callers to that show alright
Report awesome impact January 23, 2010 10:10 AM GMT
Paul Sheridan :^0
Report moneypenny January 23, 2010 11:28 AM GMT
Just listened to it. Surprised Paddy got suckered into that PR disaster
Report Doyler1987 January 23, 2010 11:35 AM GMT
I may have to add the Paul Sheridan bit to my al time classics, up there with "man falling on the ice on the news." That good! :^0

Paul Sheridans in the shop, Paul Sheridan in the shop, dont take his bets..

"Did you tell them your name?"

No.

:^0
Report Paw for Paw January 23, 2010 11:44 AM GMT
No one in their right mind would go on that show.
Report Blessington January 23, 2010 1:07 PM GMT
In fairness to Sheridan he was in the penalty area if not quite hitting between the posts. If his presentation of the questions might not have been the best. But if you were on the radio for the first time facing a PR machine such as paddy you mind probably get a bit scrambled as well when asking a question and trying to pin a guy down for a direct answer.

Anyway as I said he wasn't far off the mark.

paddy did say in his answer.

1..They do have closed circuit TV at all their counters.
2..They do know the faces of successfull gamblers.
3..They do move their staff around who would grow to reconize successfull faces as well.

While they didn't have face recognition on the CC TV you wouldn't bet too much that when a shop rings up Tallaght headquarters with a large cash bet. The guy in the trading room if he was near a TV would give it a peep to see who was placing the bet. ;) (I would, wouldn't you,)

Likewise there's isn't face regonition facilties on these CC yet. But apparently the makers are working on it for the future according to the BBC. So in all honestly do you think if that spyware was available for CC camera's in the future paddy wouldn't use it? :0

As I said that chap was in the penalty area with his question and congradulate him for been brave enough to come on the Radio to take paddy on but he just didn't quite hit the sweet spot with his kick on whether he was been spied on.........Cheers
Report rule4 will apply January 23, 2010 2:47 PM GMT
not sure its cctv that this guy is recognised from. more likely a photo copy of his bets are emailed around, a quick glance amd youve got your man. thats the way it works for the slow counters anyways.
Report Blessington January 23, 2010 3:00 PM GMT
Rule 4, That could be part of it......Don't know what DOYLER is going on about. :0

Sheridan was in the penalty area he just didn't see the free man. ie, he couldn't get his thoughts together quick enough....

Understandable if your live on a Radio show against Mr PR himself. B-)
Report Doyler1987 January 23, 2010 4:22 PM GMT
Fear not Bless, C.S.I PP is coming out off the back of his, all will become clear B-)
Report Diamond_Joe_Quimby January 23, 2010 6:23 PM GMT
Its embarassing to listen to him on the podcast. "The man in the Street".....I suppose he means drunken mugs by this. Imho, no bookie should refuse a punter a price just because he is successful. I can understand a bookie only taking a partial part of a bet from time to time, but there is no reason to refuse a punter winning or losing if the price is available. Whats the difference in laying a price to a mug punter or a shrewd one. You have laid the price so it will cost you either way.
Report Cupwinkcook January 23, 2010 8:55 PM GMT
to be fair, you only get refused in shops on each ways

on wins they'll lay away in shops, but on the phones a quick check of the bf price answers the question, Ladbreaks might lay you a tenner just to show they haven't refused you if it matches or undercuts the bf price
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