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The Cork firm have sold 17 of the shops to laddies for 1.4m.
Still retaining ownership of the buildings.
Still retaining ownership of the buildings.
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1.4? fook me! sure its not 14m? ladcrookes have stolen them imo at 1.4...some cracking shops
They sold 17 shops, held onto a few. They didnt see the buildings or the phone business.
Pity they are not gone altogether. Total joke operation.
BOOKMAKER Ladbrokes yesterday acquired five of the 11 Cashman betting shops in Cork city and county in a deal believed to be worth close to 1.4 million.
The Cork bookmaker has come under increasing pressure in recent years, notably from Ladbrokes and Paddy Powers.
Ladbrokes spokeswoman Hayley OConnor said: "It is the right deal at the right time. It is a good strategic fit for our estate as we are already well represented in Cork. We also plan to invest 750,000-plus in refurbishing and upgrading all the units."
Of the five businesses acquired by Ladbrokes, three are located in Cork, in Maylor Street, Shandon Street and Dillons Cross. The remaining two premises are in Kanturk and Mitchelstown.
Ladbrokes said that they will retain 17 of the existing staff, and while the shops are finding trading challenging, Ladbrokes says the outlets have long-term growth potential. Ladbrokes is the largest bookmaker in Ireland, where it has 207 locations. It has 78 in the North.
Hayley OConnor added: "Our priority will be the existing staff and clients. While the betting industry is finding current market conditions difficult we are hopeful reform of current legislation will create the right conditions for the industry to return to growth. These shops are good locations and we will aim to develop the businesses in the long term."
Cashmans will retain the remaining six shops and the telephone business. When contacted by the Irish Examiner yesterday, Cashmans declined to comment on the deal.
No figure was released on the value of the Ladbrokes takeover of the five premises, but it is understood that Cashmans will retain ownership of the premises and Ladbrokes will pay rent for their use. Industry sources suggest the deal is valued at close to 1.4m.
Yesterdays coup by Ladbrokes could prove very timely, with some uncertainty about what next weeks budget could hold for the bookmaking industry.
Ladbrokes and Paddy Powers are in expansion mode despite the impact of the downturn on the sector as a whole.
Last month Paddy Power announced plans to create 250 jobs in Dublin over the next three years.
The Cork bookmaker has come under increasing pressure in recent years, notably from Ladbrokes and Paddy Powers.
Ladbrokes spokeswoman Hayley OConnor said: "It is the right deal at the right time. It is a good strategic fit for our estate as we are already well represented in Cork. We also plan to invest 750,000-plus in refurbishing and upgrading all the units."
Of the five businesses acquired by Ladbrokes, three are located in Cork, in Maylor Street, Shandon Street and Dillons Cross. The remaining two premises are in Kanturk and Mitchelstown.
Ladbrokes said that they will retain 17 of the existing staff, and while the shops are finding trading challenging, Ladbrokes says the outlets have long-term growth potential. Ladbrokes is the largest bookmaker in Ireland, where it has 207 locations. It has 78 in the North.
Hayley OConnor added: "Our priority will be the existing staff and clients. While the betting industry is finding current market conditions difficult we are hopeful reform of current legislation will create the right conditions for the industry to return to growth. These shops are good locations and we will aim to develop the businesses in the long term."
Cashmans will retain the remaining six shops and the telephone business. When contacted by the Irish Examiner yesterday, Cashmans declined to comment on the deal.
No figure was released on the value of the Ladbrokes takeover of the five premises, but it is understood that Cashmans will retain ownership of the premises and Ladbrokes will pay rent for their use. Industry sources suggest the deal is valued at close to 1.4m.
Yesterdays coup by Ladbrokes could prove very timely, with some uncertainty about what next weeks budget could hold for the bookmaking industry.
Ladbrokes and Paddy Powers are in expansion mode despite the impact of the downturn on the sector as a whole.
Last month Paddy Power announced plans to create 250 jobs in Dublin over the next three years.
While the betting industry is finding current market conditions difficult we are hopeful reform of current legislation will create the right conditions for the industry to return to growth.
hardly fobts being allowed over here?
hardly fobts being allowed over here?
not their best shops but 280k a piece ...good deal for both i suppose.
any word on jam staines takin over the non rangers outfit?
maybe its oldbean...and he is keepin it quiet? :0
Bad an all as the Cashmans are it is a sad day when lad dies are seen as the saviours of anything.
Cashmans problem over the last few years were that anytime any punter that ever struck a clever bet came near them they practically boarded the shop up.
Clever punters lose too. The currant Paul has a lot to answer for here as he has no sense of the old art of playing the man not the ball. They dorve every decent punter away.
You cant survive on the drunks and penniless alone
Cashmans problem over the last few years were that anytime any punter that ever struck a clever bet came near them they practically boarded the shop up.
Clever punters lose too. The currant Paul has a lot to answer for here as he has no sense of the old art of playing the man not the ball. They dorve every decent punter away.
You cant survive on the drunks and penniless alone
I'm out of Cork too long to comment
they take a bet from me, losing a/c
but they are hoors for cutting prices before you can get on
anyone use Leeson Bookmakers, new office open in Drumcondra
they take a bet from me, losing a/c
but they are hoors for cutting prices before you can get on
anyone use Leeson Bookmakers, new office open in Drumcondra
Who's going to do all the local soccer and GAA now?
Ah the days when I would go in for a few punts in Cashies, A bag of *****& peas in Mattie Kiely's and a pint in Mulligans before getting the bus home.
Ah the days when I would go in for a few punts in Cashies, A bag of *****& peas in Mattie Kiely's and a pint in Mulligans before getting the bus home.
A once great firm who have become an embarrassment.I remember getting a pound accum up with them when I was down in Cork for the U2 concert in 87.
Cup I was in there last week (drive past on the way home every night)
150 e.w someting rinning that night (not dirty but looked sure to return shorter(.
You would think I had arrived in with a Shotgun to rob the place
150 e.w someting rinning that night (not dirty but looked sure to return shorter(.
You would think I had arrived in with a Shotgun to rob the place
e/ways are tough to get on with anyone these days
It's probably easier to get 40 e/w on at 20s, then 100e/w at 6s
It's probably easier to get 40 e/w on at 20s, then 100e/w at 6s
I thought Ladbr okes had given the Irish game up.
Their Aertel pages although a joke have gone and their Shops never have a sinner in them.
Often see them betting something like 5/4 11/5 7/4 when pp or spoils prob go 11/8 12/5 2/1 so it obviously only the needy or clueless that bet with them.
Their Aertel pages although a joke have gone and their Shops never have a sinner in them.
Often see them betting something like 5/4 11/5 7/4 when pp or spoils prob go 11/8 12/5 2/1 so it obviously only the needy or clueless that bet with them.
got caught out with lads the other day
placed a bet thinking they were guaranteed price, turned out it was hcaps only
top price available elsewhere with an indo
took 3 mins to get the bet confirmed
featured hurdle on a saturday
horse drifted to a better price but was just out of the places
placed a bet thinking they were guaranteed price, turned out it was hcaps only
top price available elsewhere with an indo
took 3 mins to get the bet confirmed
featured hurdle on a saturday
horse drifted to a better price but was just out of the places
Let's hope please that FOBT's aren't introduced. This current government are capable of doing anything.
I have to say i know liam cashman well for a long time , a pure gentleman and a good layer , knew the game inside out, when he took a back seat things went downhill
Shops have it tough though as most good punters who are into technology are online theses days and dont have to go to a shop to watch racing, the game has changed from extel days
Also i worked in a indo office for years and sometimes when you have a dangerous punter in the know, its sometimes not advisable to lay him a big bet at fancy prices. You are hoping to skin your regulars to pay 1 shark
I can see both sides
Shops have it tough though as most good punters who are into technology are online theses days and dont have to go to a shop to watch racing, the game has changed from extel days
Also i worked in a indo office for years and sometimes when you have a dangerous punter in the know, its sometimes not advisable to lay him a big bet at fancy prices. You are hoping to skin your regulars to pay 1 shark
I can see both sides
good he got a few quid out of it in the end - liam cashman is a genuine fella and knew the game big time.
Sid James have re-opened the old Billys shop across from the train station in Limerick.
When is it opening near the station? Where is good to get each way bets on eg 100ew @ 12/1 is my kind of bet but find it hard to get on.
Do Cashmans have a call centre in Cork does anyone know?
cashmans have had a touch, not worth 20k let alone 1.4 million
You are right Win. The business isnt worth a sausage. The freehold might have some value.
The shop in Mitchelstown is right in the centre and Maylor street wil lcome again as a shopping location.
Maylor Street a strange one as there is a laddies shop around the corner literally.
I Think everyone acknowledges that Maylor Street is the spiritual home of the firm and that is where Liam stood every day calling out the doubles etc.
I thought that would be the last place they would sell if they are not selling everything
The shop in Mitchelstown is right in the centre and Maylor street wil lcome again as a shopping location.
Maylor Street a strange one as there is a laddies shop around the corner literally.
I Think everyone acknowledges that Maylor Street is the spiritual home of the firm and that is where Liam stood every day calling out the doubles etc.
I thought that would be the last place they would sell if they are not selling everything
no way lad bro kes shelled out that sort of money
i would put the figure easily below a million - in fact well below
who said 1.4 - dont see any quotes - although brokes will have to say something about it on there quart finan rep
i would put the figure easily below a million - in fact well below
who said 1.4 - dont see any quotes - although brokes will have to say something about it on there quart finan rep
The shop in Kanturk is right in the centre of the busy market town. A prime location allright.
It used to be the Hardware/Grocery in the town before the Tesco's etc came in. So Cashmans took it over.
It used to be the Hardware/Grocery in the town before the Tesco's etc came in. So Cashmans took it over.
The magic sign are no addition to Leeside.They wouldn't lay an egg, having to ring England for clearance for any sort of a wager.. I closed down my telephone a/c as their Betting in Running is a joke, taking usually 3-4 mins for bet acceptance in which time the game and betting would have changed
in play betting using a phone ac is not that bright - leaves you open to shot taking - and they would do it no probs
If there dream is for the introduction of FOBTs, I hope
they rot in hell.
I'd rather my daughter married a drug dealer than a bookmaker(sic) with FOBTs.
they rot in hell.
I'd rather my daughter married a drug dealer than a bookmaker(sic) with FOBTs.
any news on this deal, post suggests today that only some shops sold to the magic crime
The Changing Legal Status of FOBTs in Ireland
There has recently been strong speculation that Fixed Odds Betting Terminals will be introduced in Ireland.
Fixed Odds Betting Terminals (FOBTs) have been a regular feature in UK licensed betting offices since the mid to late 1990s. It is fair to say that FOBTs are old news when it comes to the UK, but FOBTs, if introduced, will be ground breaking in the Irish gambling sector. Currently, there is strong speculation that FOBTs will be introduced into licensed betting offices in Ireland in the next twelve months or so. However, licensed betting offices are not the only places that FOBTs could be introduced. Other operators such as amusement halls, licensed premises and private member club casinos would also be very interested in introducing FOBTs into their premises.
What is an FOBT?
An FOBT consists of a touch screen and/or button functionality terminal which displays particular events (e.g. virtual horse/dog racing and roulette). The events represented on the screen or terminals are the visual expression of the results of automated draws from a random number generator, which determines the outcome of the event. Unlike traditional gaming machines, where the results are predetermined on site, the events on the FOBT are not predetermined and the random number generator is located off site. Essentially, the bookmaker or other operator offers bets to customers on the outcome of the events shown on the terminal at a fixed rate of return. The customer can place bets on the machine and watch the outcome of the virtual horse race or roulette on the terminal screen.
Competition
One might think that it is somewhat strange that Irish bookmakers, amusement operators and publicans have not yet followed UK bookmakers in introducing FOBTs, especially given their success in UK betting offices. In relation to the licensed betting offices, both Irish and UK bookmakers argue that they are experiencing a high level of competition from off shore internet and telephone betting, as well as the increasing number of private members club casinos in Ireland. The Irish National Lottery has also attracted the casual bettor away from the betting shops with escalating jackpots and a wide variety of scratch cards. Publicans have also seen their profits decrease with the introduction of the smoking ban and, consequently, are keen to find new ways of diversification.
In response to this level of competition, bookmakers have responded by introducing new betting products. The introduction of the National Lottery in Ireland in 1987 and in the UK in 1994 prompted the development of 'numbers betting' products. These products appeal to a more 'chance' driven audience, albeit through the same regulated environment of the licensed betting office. For example, bookmakers have introduced a variety of number based betting opportunities, including virtual horse and dog racing, betting on the results of the lotteries and other numbers products such as 49's. Some would argue that the FOBT is merely a technical and logical development of such products and many in the industry would like to introduce such machines into their premises. Bookmakers and publicans are at the head of the queue.
UK Experience
So what is the underlying reason for the reluctance of Irish bookmakers to introduce FOBTs into licensed betting offices? Irish bookmakers are well aware of the historical experience of the UK and, in particular, the case between The Gaming Board of Great Britain v Association of British Bookmakers. In this case, the Gaming Board of Great Britain alleged that FOBTs involved 'gaming' within the meaning of the UK Gaming Act 1968, with the result that the use of them in licensed betting offices was alleged to be illegal. This case settled on the basis that a limited number of FOBTs were allowed in each betting office subject to bookmakers adopting the Code of Practice Governing the Supply and Use of Fixed Odds Betting Terminals in Licensed Betting Offices.
Due to the fact that the case settled, there is now a lack of judicial guidance in the area, a fact that is not lost on Irish bookmakers. Accordingly, it seems that the main reason for the reluctance of the Irish bookmaking industry is the lack of legislative and judicial clarity in this area. After all, the relevant legislation - namely the Betting Act 1931 (as amended) and the Gaming & Lotteries Acts 1956 (as amended) - pre-dates the technology driving these products now entering into the marketplace.
The position in relation to the publicans is clearer and their reluctance to introducing slot machines or gaming machines is obvious. The Gaming and Lotteries Acts 1956 (as amended) prohibits gaming on licensed premises and accordingly, unless legislation is changed, publicans could not install slot or gaming machines on licensed premises . It is suspected that publicans may well wish to lobby for a change in legislation.
Legislation
In Ireland, the principal legal issue is whether the operation of FOBTs constitutes a 'bet' or 'gaming' and if the latter, whether it would constitute 'unlawful gaming' under the Gaming and Lotteries Acts 1956 (as amended).
At the core of whether FOBTs constitute 'unlawful gaming' is whether the making of a bet at a FOBT constitutes the 'playing of a game' .
Bookmakers would contend that the FOBT is merely a bet acceptance terminal and not a gaming machine. The contrary argument is that the operator of a FOBT is playing a game and is interacting with a machine similar to a normal gaming machine. Over the past year, there has been speculation in newspapers surrounding the intention of bookmakers to install FOBTs .
Indeed, according to those newspaper reports, FOBTs were expected to be introduced in December 2006, but a statement to the industry from the then Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform apparently prompted bookmakers to think twice. The Minister expressed a view in Dáil Eireann (Irish Parliament) that 'fixed odds gaming machines are illegal and they are liable to be seized from anyone who installs them'. In June 2007, a new Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform will be appointed and it will be very interesting to see whether the new Minister takes the same view.
Consequences for Operators if FOBTs are 'Gaming Machine's under Irish Law
The Gaming and Lotteries Acts 1956 (as amended) provides that a member of An Garda Siochana (Irish police) may seize any 'gaming instrument' which is being used for unlawful gaming and following conviction be liable for forfeiture . Fines and a term of imprisonment may also be imposed .
A judicial decision that the use of a FOBT constituted 'gaming' in Irish law would expose a bookmaker to a number of difficulties. A conviction under the Gaming and Lotteries Acts 1956 (as amended) is one ground for the police authorities to refuse to issue a Certificate of Personal Fitness, as required for the renewal of a bookmaker's licence. In addition, if a bookmaker is convicted of an offence including an offence under the Gaming and Lotteries Acts 1956 (as amended), the Court in sentencing the bookmaker is empowered to revoke the bookmaker's licence if the Court is of the view that the offence committed was of such a nature or character, or was committed in such circumstances, that the commission of the offence rendered such bookmaker unfit to hold a bookmakers licence.
Further consequences arise for a bookmaker under the Betting Act 1931. Section 19 (3) of the Betting Act 1931 prevents the carrying on of any business other than that of bookmaking at the registered premises. Section 20(1) prevents 'the maintenance within registered premises of any attraction (other than the mere carrying on of the business of bookmaking) which causes or encourages or is likely to cause or encourage persons to congregate in such premises".
Casino Committee
It has widely been publicised that a Committee on the Regulation of Casinos has been established in Ireland to report to the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform as to the possibilities for a legislative basis for the strict regulation of casino style operations in the State. The Report of the Committee on the Regulation is Casinos still has not been published and it is not certain whether the issue of FOBTs will be addressed in the Report. Commentators and industry body statements suggest that certain submissions did not address casino operations alone. However, given the soundings from the last Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform, it will be no surprise if FOBTs are mentioned in the Report, and hopefully some clarity will be provided.
Conclusion
In the UK, FOBTs were first introduced into licensed betting offices. It is expected that the same approach will be taken in Ireland. The difficulty that Irish operators have at the moment is the lack of legal certainty in the area. Operators examining FOBTs are attempting to interpret FOBTs in light of legislation that pre-dates even the invention of the computer, not to mention FOBTs. FOBTs are being mooted as an important product to assist bookmakers, publicans, amusement operators and private member club casino operators and others to increase turnover. Unfortunately, the legislative environment is unclear and interesting times lie ahead if FOBTs are introduced into licensed betting offices or elsewhere in Ireland.
There has recently been strong speculation that Fixed Odds Betting Terminals will be introduced in Ireland.
Fixed Odds Betting Terminals (FOBTs) have been a regular feature in UK licensed betting offices since the mid to late 1990s. It is fair to say that FOBTs are old news when it comes to the UK, but FOBTs, if introduced, will be ground breaking in the Irish gambling sector. Currently, there is strong speculation that FOBTs will be introduced into licensed betting offices in Ireland in the next twelve months or so. However, licensed betting offices are not the only places that FOBTs could be introduced. Other operators such as amusement halls, licensed premises and private member club casinos would also be very interested in introducing FOBTs into their premises.
What is an FOBT?
An FOBT consists of a touch screen and/or button functionality terminal which displays particular events (e.g. virtual horse/dog racing and roulette). The events represented on the screen or terminals are the visual expression of the results of automated draws from a random number generator, which determines the outcome of the event. Unlike traditional gaming machines, where the results are predetermined on site, the events on the FOBT are not predetermined and the random number generator is located off site. Essentially, the bookmaker or other operator offers bets to customers on the outcome of the events shown on the terminal at a fixed rate of return. The customer can place bets on the machine and watch the outcome of the virtual horse race or roulette on the terminal screen.
Competition
One might think that it is somewhat strange that Irish bookmakers, amusement operators and publicans have not yet followed UK bookmakers in introducing FOBTs, especially given their success in UK betting offices. In relation to the licensed betting offices, both Irish and UK bookmakers argue that they are experiencing a high level of competition from off shore internet and telephone betting, as well as the increasing number of private members club casinos in Ireland. The Irish National Lottery has also attracted the casual bettor away from the betting shops with escalating jackpots and a wide variety of scratch cards. Publicans have also seen their profits decrease with the introduction of the smoking ban and, consequently, are keen to find new ways of diversification.
In response to this level of competition, bookmakers have responded by introducing new betting products. The introduction of the National Lottery in Ireland in 1987 and in the UK in 1994 prompted the development of 'numbers betting' products. These products appeal to a more 'chance' driven audience, albeit through the same regulated environment of the licensed betting office. For example, bookmakers have introduced a variety of number based betting opportunities, including virtual horse and dog racing, betting on the results of the lotteries and other numbers products such as 49's. Some would argue that the FOBT is merely a technical and logical development of such products and many in the industry would like to introduce such machines into their premises. Bookmakers and publicans are at the head of the queue.
UK Experience
So what is the underlying reason for the reluctance of Irish bookmakers to introduce FOBTs into licensed betting offices? Irish bookmakers are well aware of the historical experience of the UK and, in particular, the case between The Gaming Board of Great Britain v Association of British Bookmakers. In this case, the Gaming Board of Great Britain alleged that FOBTs involved 'gaming' within the meaning of the UK Gaming Act 1968, with the result that the use of them in licensed betting offices was alleged to be illegal. This case settled on the basis that a limited number of FOBTs were allowed in each betting office subject to bookmakers adopting the Code of Practice Governing the Supply and Use of Fixed Odds Betting Terminals in Licensed Betting Offices.
Due to the fact that the case settled, there is now a lack of judicial guidance in the area, a fact that is not lost on Irish bookmakers. Accordingly, it seems that the main reason for the reluctance of the Irish bookmaking industry is the lack of legislative and judicial clarity in this area. After all, the relevant legislation - namely the Betting Act 1931 (as amended) and the Gaming & Lotteries Acts 1956 (as amended) - pre-dates the technology driving these products now entering into the marketplace.
The position in relation to the publicans is clearer and their reluctance to introducing slot machines or gaming machines is obvious. The Gaming and Lotteries Acts 1956 (as amended) prohibits gaming on licensed premises and accordingly, unless legislation is changed, publicans could not install slot or gaming machines on licensed premises . It is suspected that publicans may well wish to lobby for a change in legislation.
Legislation
In Ireland, the principal legal issue is whether the operation of FOBTs constitutes a 'bet' or 'gaming' and if the latter, whether it would constitute 'unlawful gaming' under the Gaming and Lotteries Acts 1956 (as amended).
At the core of whether FOBTs constitute 'unlawful gaming' is whether the making of a bet at a FOBT constitutes the 'playing of a game' .
Bookmakers would contend that the FOBT is merely a bet acceptance terminal and not a gaming machine. The contrary argument is that the operator of a FOBT is playing a game and is interacting with a machine similar to a normal gaming machine. Over the past year, there has been speculation in newspapers surrounding the intention of bookmakers to install FOBTs .
Indeed, according to those newspaper reports, FOBTs were expected to be introduced in December 2006, but a statement to the industry from the then Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform apparently prompted bookmakers to think twice. The Minister expressed a view in Dáil Eireann (Irish Parliament) that 'fixed odds gaming machines are illegal and they are liable to be seized from anyone who installs them'. In June 2007, a new Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform will be appointed and it will be very interesting to see whether the new Minister takes the same view.
Consequences for Operators if FOBTs are 'Gaming Machine's under Irish Law
The Gaming and Lotteries Acts 1956 (as amended) provides that a member of An Garda Siochana (Irish police) may seize any 'gaming instrument' which is being used for unlawful gaming and following conviction be liable for forfeiture . Fines and a term of imprisonment may also be imposed .
A judicial decision that the use of a FOBT constituted 'gaming' in Irish law would expose a bookmaker to a number of difficulties. A conviction under the Gaming and Lotteries Acts 1956 (as amended) is one ground for the police authorities to refuse to issue a Certificate of Personal Fitness, as required for the renewal of a bookmaker's licence. In addition, if a bookmaker is convicted of an offence including an offence under the Gaming and Lotteries Acts 1956 (as amended), the Court in sentencing the bookmaker is empowered to revoke the bookmaker's licence if the Court is of the view that the offence committed was of such a nature or character, or was committed in such circumstances, that the commission of the offence rendered such bookmaker unfit to hold a bookmakers licence.
Further consequences arise for a bookmaker under the Betting Act 1931. Section 19 (3) of the Betting Act 1931 prevents the carrying on of any business other than that of bookmaking at the registered premises. Section 20(1) prevents 'the maintenance within registered premises of any attraction (other than the mere carrying on of the business of bookmaking) which causes or encourages or is likely to cause or encourage persons to congregate in such premises".
Casino Committee
It has widely been publicised that a Committee on the Regulation of Casinos has been established in Ireland to report to the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform as to the possibilities for a legislative basis for the strict regulation of casino style operations in the State. The Report of the Committee on the Regulation is Casinos still has not been published and it is not certain whether the issue of FOBTs will be addressed in the Report. Commentators and industry body statements suggest that certain submissions did not address casino operations alone. However, given the soundings from the last Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform, it will be no surprise if FOBTs are mentioned in the Report, and hopefully some clarity will be provided.
Conclusion
In the UK, FOBTs were first introduced into licensed betting offices. It is expected that the same approach will be taken in Ireland. The difficulty that Irish operators have at the moment is the lack of legal certainty in the area. Operators examining FOBTs are attempting to interpret FOBTs in light of legislation that pre-dates even the invention of the computer, not to mention FOBTs. FOBTs are being mooted as an important product to assist bookmakers, publicans, amusement operators and private member club casino operators and others to increase turnover. Unfortunately, the legislative environment is unclear and interesting times lie ahead if FOBTs are introduced into licensed betting offices or elsewhere in Ireland.
In the article in the Post that talked about the sale, the ladbro kes guy pretty much said that the only reason they bought em is that it is only a matter of time before FOBT's are introduced here. FFS it is the last thing our society needs right now.
fobts are on the way eevery laddie shop is prepared so they can be installed tomorrow if needed be
THE CRACK COCAINE of gambling it will be a sad day
THE CRACK COCAINE of gambling it will be a sad day
catchmewhenucan, where was this article on line please
I remember a fella in Maylor St telling me that a regular big hitter had taken Liam for 25K, big money now not to mind then.
Liam was confident he would get it back off him and more.
Liam was confident he would get it back off him and more.
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