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Shame Paul Nicholls Becoming Yesterdays Man.
Shame Paul Nicholls Becoming Yesterdays Man.
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Whippin Piccadilly • October 14, 2026 4:39 PM BST
yeah a real downgrade lol shocking shocking bad |
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Another PFN horse thats walked home - given open goal and blazed it over the bar.
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Still a maiden over fences!
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Been following this thread with interest and here are my thoughts.
I am a big fan of the stable. I don't know PN and have no idea if he's winding down. PN was and probably still is a great trainer of horses. His record speaks for itself. I don't agree that jockeys move to a stable and the standard of horse improves. I believe that when a jockey leaves and the standard appears to drop it's because the jockey sees that the animals coming through are not going to match the ones that have been winning over a period of time. Jockeys can make a difference to winning/losing races though. I do agree that other trainers WM/Skelton/Elliot for example are probably obtaining the more promising types at present. That can change. I certainly hope he continues and does well. All about opinions. Jimnast. Good to hear you got up to Lanark. You should have given me a shout I would have brought the Kleenex.  |
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SKELTON benefiting
how many ch hurdle,gold cups, ch chases , stayer,s hurdles,grand nationals has he won ? |
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Skelton = Oly Murphy….both have a long way to catch up with PN tbh….
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1st time poster- agree 100%
formoftheace- ditto 100% |
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Thirded...have Nicholls over the grinning crook any day...
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To place Ollie Murphy alongside Skelton shows a remarkable lack of knowledge but fully expected from the hapless poster Aceform.
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Much of a muchness Bell-E……..
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Considering the backing he gets Murphy is a big under achiever. Wins lots of tin pot races, but very few of his horses progress to the top table. I don't see any change in that. Up to now Skelton probably better known for handicappers, but that looks as if it will change. It will be poor if it doesn't.
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Yes I can see how a moron like you could say that,you clueless cretin.
Skelton has very long way to go before getting near Nicholls achievements,though. |
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Handicap King tbh…..hype then dud….bla…
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13 chelt festival winner,s for skelton, 4 at one festival his larget haul
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Gold Cup,Champion Hurdle and Queen Mother….the rest are races including the long one…..
You can squawk louder Ironhead when he lifts one…. |
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People are free to express opinions on here without morons like you accusing them of squawking because they know more than you,Two Bobber
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Yawn !
Go to bed. |
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Tony mullins had a good point DS is yet to train a superstar like ks or Denman
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Or Azertyuiop, Master Minded, Call Equiname, Big Bucks, Neptune Collanges and many more.
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nichols stable visit on portinlife says he has one juvinile hurlder ,to hard to get hold of
reading between lines getting TWINJETTS to beat PI,LOCRY in charlie hall chase ,is pumpkins chelt gold cup this season  |
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It does not alter the fact that he is a top class Tariner,1st timer.
Fashions change |
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Even Cecil's string suffered before Frankel
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Nicholl's has achieved what most could only dream of doing.
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Hilarious at Newton Ab Sat, Pumpkin face like thunder when Sam got Quebecois beat. Looked like he was going to explode but said absolutely nothing to Sam who told the tale of woe to owner Max Mcneill instead. Had he not been there one dreads to think what Pumpkin would have said!
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STD wasn't up to the job first time round.
Little has changed |
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As great as he was, those days are gone. Time to pack it in. You cannot back any if his with confidence anymore.
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If the horse is good enough he will get the result.
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Not any more he won't. Have you been watching him the last couple of years? Obviously not.
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I think Skelton will struggle at Cheltenham this season,Mullins rule with the poser on the dead horse snapping away….Skelton to pick up a handicap….
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What a cretin you are,Aceform.
Mullins to have winners at Cheltenham. Who would have thought that Skelton will rule the roost in England for some time |
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Mullins rule which means he will be top again….
Keep up silly one |
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Nicky Henderson will be in for a good season with a rider on the JP horses, no more blunder busters….
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Skelton achieved his Cheltenham success with being more than cute with the handicappers. Pumpkin would never leave races behind just to win at Cheltenham, but this is the MO of most of the successful trainers now. Probably the two that don't do it at all are GE and Pumpkin. GE possibly does it with the average horses in the egg and spoon races, but not ones that could win at the festival.
I wrote about that before, but over Pumpkin's career, I'd say getting Cheltenham winners has become increasingly more critical overall, but Pumpkin never compromised his approach to get them. But since powerful owners cherish Cheltenham winners over anything else, they will now go to people who seem most likely to get them. Ironically, Max is desperate for one, but obviously uses multiple trainers anyway. |
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Running non triers, or keeping them back months to protect a mark would typically be an anathema to Pumpkin. Which is the way it should be, but it's now a dated approach.
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Mullins is more than capable of "plotting one up" for Cheltenham and has done so on many occasions.
With Cheltenham now being the be all and end all it will continue |
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I don't associate Mullins with plotting at all. He doesn't hide his horses out the back. Isn't his record in handicap chases terrible? Can you give these 'many' examples. Plotted up horses I would associate with going into the Festival with a string of duck eggs, and then suddenly 'improving'.
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You don't need a string of ducks eggs to get a plotted Mark,DD
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