Wednesday -  4.55

Couldn't replicate the race?

In what way cider ? The race was still run but obviously not over a straight mile valixer beat the odds on favourite rakti

Looks like the Coventry was the 1ST race for a while.
2003 - 2007.

Good detective work there Penzance I should have remembered that as three valleys won the first race which I remember now.

Cheers Penzance good luck to you also I feel quite a bit of it will be needed this week ,

I found the straight course easier to bet on than the round course uptheirons but yes very hard.

jimnast, hope you are well. Regarding the different running order, I wonder if it may have had anything to do with ease of stalls positioning? At RA they start at 1m straight, then 6f, then 5f. They just shove the stalls down the straight. With no straight mile at York perhaps it was easier to do as they did? No idea really, just a thought.
I am in the Parade Ring tomorrow. Just doing a day trip. Punting is unlikely to be assisted by a decent drop of overnight rain on watered ground. Hard enough to sort out where the best stall position is there at the best of times. I may stick to the food'n'fizz and go easy. I was sorry to miss your message a few weeks back. Not being rude I just didn't glance up at that part of the screen. I shall drop you a liner now. All the best.

well done Ronnie. 1534 17th August post. Copped the lot as they say. Finally managed to meet Jimnast today. Lovely to see him. Look forward to sharing a glass with you one day. Good luck the next few days. i am back home now nursing the start of my post-Juddmonte hangover. have what you like on Klassleader Saturday. All the best

Good morning to you both yes nice to meet up yesterday Donegal hope the hangover doesn’t last to long and also look forward to Sahara glass perhaps at Ascot or Cheltenham over the winter,well done Ronnie on getting the front to beat in the big race ,I guess you called in the hop last night,Andrew from Sweden and workrider both flew in to see the big head to head so it was a bit disappointing it didn’t really materialise,hope you both enjoyed the day in Andrew’s case it was his first visit I’m sure he would enjoyed seeing the Henry Cecil gates and the statue of you know who and all the memorabilia that’s in that part of the course.

Good luck to all

What was the feeling on the ground about the big race?

I didn't have a bet. That shouldn't need to be noted, but it does on here. The 'lads' and their dirty tactics ruined another race in my opinion. Whether it impacted the winning outcome, or not. AOB may claim that the intended sacrificial lamb, née pacemaker missed the kick, and it ruined their plans. Maybe, maybe not, but he still managed to have a homing device on Ombudsman and spent half the race trying to squeeze him up. We've seen their intended pacemakers miss the kick countless times before, and they invariably have their ears ridden off them to circle the field to get to the front anyway.

AOB likes to claim it's all innocent and they just want a good pace to find the best horse. Sorry Aidan, it just doesn't wash. If that's the case, your no hoper would have just gotten out of the way of the rest of the field if he was unable to do the job set, rather than deliberately interfere with your primary opponent.

Staying on the rail to make it harder for opponents that are held up is a totally legitimate tactic. But also running a worker bee only there to try and lock in an opponent who you know is drawn on the rail and will be held up, isn't.

Part of the psychological warfare isn't it as well, as opponents pretty much know the mafia will control how the race is run, and where the field will be taken. Of course their primary runner has a double advantage, knowing runners are there simply to disadvantage opponents, and you know how. It puts opponents on the backfoot and paranoid before the stalls have opened. I'm pretty sure this was overarching Buick's mindset and he pretty much panicked. Who knows, I doubt he was at his best anyway but the whole affair is very unsavoury.

Morning jim, I was torn on the outcome, I'd have liked to have seen Ed Walker take it, but if I'd have had a bet in the race, it would have been Almaqam! I do like the connections of the winner also, but I didn't anticipate him being able to get close the winning tbh.

They're selling stallions, it's a business. No more complicated than that.

But in the race itself, staying on the rail is entirely legitimate. And obviously a benefit of being on the pace. Standard, legitimate race riding tactics should be distinguished from running spoilers (not legitimate).

Afternoon Ronnie. Just got up...to my shame. I have been going to Parade Ring restaurant since they opened it in....2015-ish. Like everything at York it is classy and good value. The atmosphere is very gentle ...more like a good class restaurant than a racecourse. I have done a few such places, including the one in the Ebor stand , and find most of them too noisy and the food very average (smoked salmon + rubber chicken). This is very good indeed and the food is excellent. As usual, great value. Moet and Chandon £120 at Newmarket. £80 here. The more you buy the more you save!!! Tables are restricted to 6 people so no big noisy groups on stag do's. Some tables for 2 . Not to be done every meeting but I will be there again next Juddmonte and every year until I drop.All the best. Hope you stay dry and bag a few winners.

Gubbed on the line, rouble ir too

The jolly won the race so I would imagine a few punters were on.

Unlucky there,your horse ran a stormer but all this pacemaker noise, it's
as though they've never been deployed in a race before.

you'd rather have properly ran races, as long as they don't get in the way of the opposition.

it's not really fair on the casual punters. of course they will get lucky 1 in 100 times but it should be public that they are nor conventional triers.

they never used to be group 1 ability.