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MJK
09 Aug 26 20:07
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Gone to Skelton.  Interesting to see how he does there. Presumably they won't try to bury it out the back and come there on the bridle..
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Report differentdrum August 9, 2026 8:14 PM BST
I wouldn't risk it whoever was pushing the buttons. I think it's a shame that everyone seems to think this guy is the oracle. Not good for punters.
Report uptheirons August 9, 2026 10:21 PM BST
He is light years in front of the previous Trainer
Report differentdrum August 10, 2026 9:33 AM BST
In Ireland you have Elliott, De Bromhead and Cromwell at least to some extent putting it up to Mullins.

What do you have over here? Henderson won't be around that much longer, and Nicholls is already on the decline. So we will have domination from a trainer who operates in a way that you couldn't remotely describe as punter friendly. Of course the media will constantly build him up because are always desperate for some sort of narrative.
Report lead on August 10, 2026 9:49 AM BST
Maybe he'll get found before long
Report barstool August 10, 2026 9:58 AM BST
It would be nice to see his plans for all the big prize money handicaps this season.

You could have a nice earner laying them until "the day" then backing them on it.

Not just him at though.
Report brandyontherocks August 10, 2026 11:00 AM BST
I think he has proven over the last 10 years, he is a very good trainer.
Report Andrew-In-Sweden August 10, 2026 1:24 PM BST
One on my favourite chasers back in time after backing him a couple of times in the Autumn of 2023. In my opinion he was the best jumper of a fence since Sprinter Sacre, watch his Kempton Kauto Star Chase win on Boxing day.

I've always thought the horse got injured in his next race at Auteuil, there's a water jump, i think it may be the Tribune fence, he jumped it too well and maybe stretched something, but what do i know, i'm not a vet. Whatever it was, he went from travelling well to fading quickly, finishing last of 5, beaten 55L (30/100f) clearly something was amiss.

He did win again, albeit only a G3 and a small conditions hurdle race, but in between these runs made a valiant attempt to lead all the way in the KG at Kempton in 2024 (given a rating of 166 for this run). Dan may find out what's troubling the horse and get to the bottom of it, but after 3 x PU in recent runs, i have my doubts he will win a graded race again. A pity, he was a sight to watch in his races before that race after Kempton 2023, i felt he was possibly the next Denman. I was lucky enough to watch him run at Auteuil, but sadly he was PU that day.
Report loper August 10, 2026 4:00 PM BST
Agree with Andrew.

On a wet September Tuesday (those were the days) I had At The Races on and watched a chase from Auteuil with little happening in the UK at the time and witnessed Il Est Francais saunter home in such  impressive style that I looked up the horse's form and stuck him in my tracker. It was his first chase. He kept on improving and won the Kauto Star in such a fast time that he would have won the following King George by 20 lengths!

I think Skelton will strip him back to basics and retrain him, seeing if he is amiable to restraint and take it from there.

A really fascinating project, fingers crossed that the beast has still got most of his awesome talent. Already dropped from 166 to 155, given his impressive physique, he could bully inferior opponents in handicaps at the very least.
Report duffy August 10, 2026 4:04 PM BST
They put that down to bursting a blood vessel, not for the first time, this really will be a test for Skelton if that issue continues.
Report duffy August 10, 2026 4:05 PM BST
They'd have been better off sending him to Ireland where he could have perhaps run in all those soft grade 2 and 3's they've got over there where he might not have to come off the bridle too much.
Report Busyfool August 10, 2026 4:15 PM BST
those french water jumps are a menace and should be removed

as should the ones we have
Report loper August 10, 2026 4:23 PM BST
The problem with the Auteuil water jump is that the landing side isn't flat and if a horse isn't foot perfect he can do muscular damage.
Report Busyfool August 10, 2026 4:27 PM BST
not just ortoy although thats a shocker

muscular damage a blessing. ive seen them break their back and its orrible
Report paulybad August 10, 2026 11:12 PM BST
Bled a couple of times,after that they won't go there when the chips are down, shame as he was a fine prospect.
Report Busyfool August 11, 2026 4:42 PM BST
il est crevé
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