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By:
1st time poster
When: 31 Jul 26 17:19
and we reach 35 de ent pots before another one goes in to dog abuse,pretty decent effort nowadays
By:
1st time poster
When: 31 Jul 26 17:48
seems a straight up sort of guy Laugh
By:
uptheirons
When: 31 Jul 26 17:53
When Aceform joins in it is inevitableSad
By:
jimnast
When: 31 Jul 26 17:55
salt of the earth
By:
jimnast
When: 31 Jul 26 17:57
wheres the post gone ?
By:
howard
When: 01 Aug 26 08:28
"dropped a lot in weights..big drop in class..was all there to see.."      Yeah had won off 70 now 59 and still only a 4 year old.

On-course bookmaker John Hutchinson, who trades as BDC Racing, said: "People were backing the horse with every bookmaker between 6-1 and 7-1 and couldn't get enough on. I laid a £6,000 to £1,000 bet and another bet to win £3,000, so I thought I'd better go to the paddock to look at the horse. When I came back we'd laid another £5,000 to £2,000.


wtf is the point of looking at a low grade h'capper that's run 19 times.  Expecting to see the appearance of a Frankel ? Silly
By:
howard
When: 01 Aug 26 08:33
It's obviously fit enough the money tells you that.
By:
Cider
When: 01 Aug 26 09:16
There Is No Doubt was a fun one. Young Pipe was dipping the daughter of a new trainer at the time as I understand it, and his missus rode her horses. I think it had recently been 'moved' from Pipe's to this young lass, and had its name changed, so nobody laying bets knew it was effectively a Pipe first timer in a weakish Exeter bumper. I may be mixing the stories in my head, but I also seem to recall the owners were not happy as everyone else at Pipe's lumped on first, before they got the nod. 33s to 5-2, a lot bigger on bf obviously (at that time, 28/1/33/1 outsiders often traded 100+ on here). Another twist was that one of Pipe's big owners had the paper fav, and he lumped on the 'ringer'. No wonder There Is No Doubt's owners were a bit salty Laugh
By:
Coneygree1971
When: 01 Aug 26 09:23
It didn't win because it was lower in the handicap - there are a million horses running today lower in the hcp - it won because on this particular day the horse WAS RUNNING ON ITS MERITS, when clearly it has NOT been running on its merits. Hence the (pointless) stewards inquiry.

BTW Cavendish is worth looking out for if one of hers in backed in a bumper.
By:
howard
When: 01 Aug 26 09:45
they aren't all young (4 )  recently transfered from another stable running over different trips and wearing headgear.  You can read 'em to a fair extent.  TC and Candlish ones usually need a few runs after arriving whereas Mick Appleby was good first time.  But yeah the money is the clincher.
By:
CagliariG
When: 01 Aug 26 10:07
Quite a conspiracy there Cider, it rather falls apart when you say the horse had its name changed but the owners were last to know about the gamble!! Have you any idea how hard it is to change a horses name not to mention without the owners knowledge?
By:
1st time poster
When: 01 Aug 26 12:42
went to paddock to see if it had 3 legs,o he could try to nick another few grand out of it Laugh
By:
loper
When: 01 Aug 26 13:26
What I find surprising is that no one has questioned the size of the bets stood by the potless lot standing in the Wolves ring.

Haven't been for a number of years but you couldn't get a bet to win a monkey with most of the shamblers.

Len Boden being the exception.
By:
howard
When: 01 Aug 26 13:30
do you watch SD in the ring ? ( you tube )  Loads of 'em  lay four figure bets including friend of the channel John Hutchinson.
By:
loper
When: 01 Aug 26 13:34
I stand corrected. Makes me think it might be worth while returning to the track.
By:
Cider
When: 01 Aug 26 13:43
There Is No Doubt, whose victory at Exeter 10 days ago has caused a few eyebrows to be raised at the Jockey Club, followed up with a facile success at Towcester today.

The three-year-old (7-2) made all in the European Breeders Fund ‘Junior’ Standard Open NH Flat Race to beat favourite Giovanna by a long-looking nine lengths.

The ex-French gelding is trained by permit holder Helen Bridges, whose horses are ridden by her daughter Lucy, the long-term partner of Martin Pipe’s son, David.

Backers of There Is No Doubt landed a spectacular gamble at the Devon track when he was backed down from an opening 28-1 on-course to 5-2 favourite at the off.

It transpired the horse had been sold by Pipe to Mrs Bridges a few weeks earlier, and its name had subsequently been changed via Weatherbys.

Although no rules are thought to have been broken, the champion trainer is set to be interviewed by Jockey Club security staff, as is Dorset-based Mrs Bridges, who remains nonplussed by recent press attention.

“It was an incredible win (at Exeter) and I’ll never ever forget being accosted by reporters at the other end over what had happened. I hadn’t a clue,” she told At The Races.

“Martin chose this horse for me but I could have sent him back if I’d wanted to.”

Asked how the publicity had affected her, she added: “At one point I never wanted to see another horse or another racecourse.

“But life has to go on – it is a storm in a teacup.”


As I palpably stated, I could be mixing the stories (the ownership bit). The was absolutely a significant controversy around Pipe heavily backing a horse before the owners. I seem to recall they took it to court or some such. I might try and find some info on it later, but we are talking over twenty years ago, unsurprisingly these stories can merge in your memory.
By:
Cider
When: 01 Aug 26 13:46
Poor lamb, didn't have a clue that they had bet the house on the non ringer, ringer. lol

I also seem to recall this shady affair led to some changes to the rules of racing.
By:
bluenose7
When: 01 Aug 26 14:46
These affordability checks good news for on course bookies ?
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 01 Aug 26 15:18
I can say similar to Loper.

I owned an eyelid of a syndicate horse running @ Wolvers and was refused a bully e.w. @ 16/1. That's going back 15 years so the ring has obviously improved since then.

On affordability checks. Hills have amended my deposit limit to £100.00 quarterly.
I was pretty much only using them for placepots as the Nanny gave me a red card when I refused to comply.

Completely absurd.
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