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Former Tory MP, latterly of the Reform party
Also known for her appearances on Strictly Come Dancing
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Exactly...BBC reporter stressing that he is a White, British male...even though he's been released without charge
Not sure they would be stressing the point, or even acknowledging, if a suspect was other than White British
Not sure they would be stressing the point, or even acknowledging, if a suspect was other than White British
that was stated when he was areested..normal procedure.
seen it plenty..will come out anyway if charged.
He's been released. You've never seen a copper say we've arrested
a 26 year old black/ brown man, it doesn't happen.
a 26 year old black/ brown man, it doesn't happen.
There is so much stuff being reported in the main media, and the one time suspect has been released without charge. I hope something definitive about her gruesome death is known soon.
White person kills white person in country that is 80% white. The right wing keyboard warriors barely had time to take their typing fingers out their arse. Wait for the 'he must be left wing'.......
You look pretty daft now that you yourself have jumped to wrong conclusion about the man arrested.
Practically falling over yourself in trying to do so.
You look pretty daft now that you yourself have jumped to wrong conclusion about the man arrested.
Practically falling over yourself in trying to do so.
She did an interview live on tv from her home which finished around 10.15 wednesday and had agreed to do a similar interview for Ch 5 a few hours later but was uncontactable when it came to her interview slot. Found dead with serious injuries the following morning.
Poor Ann - who does that to a little old woman?
Poor Ann - who does that to a little old woman?
A crass comment uti, even allowing for your usual low standards.
Devon plod not exactly showing signs of competence at the moment.
Devon plod not exactly showing signs of competence at the moment.
RIP Ann. Lets see what if any progress the police make. Could have been a robbery. She was feisty enough to resist rather than keep out of the way.
Saving the speculating loons that feel obliged to turn into Columbo at every opportunity
description only needed to help Find the Perp ,or when they have actually been charged IMO
People will know who this 26 year old Guy is , Doesn't take much for some nutter to take matters into their own Hands
Was there a"26 year old white guy" or just a convenient lie to keep the lid on things!?
Everybody is Columbo on here.
Why not wait for the facts to eventually emerge?
Why not wait for the facts to eventually emerge?
They've let him go for now, while they tune in to his phone calls and monitor him ~ Peter Falk
Probably be a Court Case when "the facts" emerge.
Might be a long wait.
Might be a long wait.
It's a sad fact that your default response is that the authorities are trying to cover something up until proven otherwise. As more often than not, they are. As I stated, the police didn't want it to go public, overruled by the family.
mistake putting a big house sign "Widdecombes Rest " at the end of the drive.
The vast majority on here holding their breath and keyboard obsessed digits whilst praying that a non white person has been arrested.
Plenty of white, hate filled far lefties about, what's your point?
I see the news as a 78 year old defenceless woman who never stood a chance against some obvious beast.
God bless….
Dreadful society….
Just hope it doesn’t turn into another Jill Dando type circus…
God bless….
Dreadful society….
Just hope it doesn’t turn into another Jill Dando type circus…
Hardly, why would this have anything to do with race?
Left wing fascist seems most likely, whatever their immutable identity.
It doesn't pass the sniff test. Yet. It's quite easy to tell when they are supressing stuff, as it is now extremely commonplace.
Left wing fascist seems most likely, whatever their immutable identity.
It doesn't pass the sniff test. Yet. It's quite easy to tell when they are supressing stuff, as it is now extremely commonplace.
The media have gone for reform and restore mercilessly lately, they've totally
given up pretending they are not biased.
given up pretending they are not biased.
Well I wasn't going to speculate,but as Cider has,I would say it's most likely an apolitical scummy burglar and Widdecombe put up a fight.
And I don't care about his /their skin colour. I just hope they make a successful arrest asap.
And I don't care about his /their skin colour. I just hope they make a successful arrest asap.
and obviously no reason for the police not to state that it looks like a burglary, but their investigations continue.
it doesn't pass the sniff test yet.
chopper said she had cctv security
it doesn't pass the sniff test yet.
chopper said she had cctv security
I'm sure they said originally it wasn't politically motivated.
If they thought it was other agencies would definitely be involved because it would be treated as terrorist related. That doesn't have to be about religion.
I suppose it could be a domestic but that seems highly unlikely given what we know about Widdecombe.
I still think my theory has legs,although technically it should be housebreaking not burglary.
However I agree it is all speculation and I'm not going to post again until we are told more.
If they thought it was other agencies would definitely be involved because it would be treated as terrorist related. That doesn't have to be about religion.
I suppose it could be a domestic but that seems highly unlikely given what we know about Widdecombe.
I still think my theory has legs,although technically it should be housebreaking not burglary.
However I agree it is all speculation and I'm not going to post again until we are told more.
Burglary gone wrong imo, They love these remote spots.
Spot on Glasgow especially with an old woman living alone,scum…..complete manure…..The Libs will defend it all day….
I don't believe political motivation has been ruled out. Since they seemingly have no idea who the culprit is, how can it be possibly be ruled out.
No risk to the wider public, according to the police. How could
they know that, if a mentalist burglar was at large? Some straw
clutching going on imo.
they know that, if a mentalist burglar was at large? Some straw
clutching going on imo.
No risk to the wider public maybe seems she knew the offender.
... I never heard the no risk statement, if that is the case yes not a common burglar.
The Forum should have it pinned down eventually with all the guessing, btw Salmon S, no such offence as Housebreaking in England, burglary or aggravated burglary if a break in was the case. The fact the police state no wider threat would suggest as GC says, they think she knew the offender which would also suggest they have a good idea?
In an update on Saturday afternoon, officers said they were working on the assumption that the 78-year-old former politician was attacked at about 12.30pm on Wednesday.
The ambulance service found Widdecombe’s body at her bungalow in Haytor, Devon, at 11.40am on Thursday.
A 26-year-old man arrested in Newton Abbott on Friday in connection with the investigation was released without charge early on Saturday and is no longer part of the inquiry.
Assistant chief constable Matt Longman of Devon and Cornwall police said Widdecombe’s death was being treated as suspicious, but the force did not believe there was a wider risk to the public.
He said: “Our inquiries are moving at pace for a suspect who is believed to be a white male.”
The ambulance service found Widdecombe’s body at her bungalow in Haytor, Devon, at 11.40am on Thursday.
A 26-year-old man arrested in Newton Abbott on Friday in connection with the investigation was released without charge early on Saturday and is no longer part of the inquiry.
Assistant chief constable Matt Longman of Devon and Cornwall police said Widdecombe’s death was being treated as suspicious, but the force did not believe there was a wider risk to the public.
He said: “Our inquiries are moving at pace for a suspect who is believed to be a white male.”
CagliariG 11 Jul 26 15:25
The fact the police state no wider threat would suggest as GC says, they think she knew the offender
........................
So you discount the possibility that it's political, just like that?
The fact the police state no wider threat would suggest as GC says, they think she knew the offender
........................
So you discount the possibility that it's political, just like that?
the authorities keep everywon in the mushroom club for obv reesons ffs...
STOP SPECULATING
STOP SPECULATING
cider ive no doubt ewe occasionally appear down the shops as Mrs Doubtfire.
He would have been arrested "On suspicion" cider and he was quickly eliminated, SOP in any investigation. There will be a mountain of forensics to be investigated and a PM which takes time so the Police are hardly likely to speculate in public to give conspiracy mugs like you more fuel!! HTH
Aye, speculating that she knew the killer is absolutely fine.
on what basis ?
there's no conspiracy, I'm stating that the police lie, subvert, and withhold information to deflect all of the time.
I'm stating that it doesn't, right now, pass the sniff test.
It may well be that it was a random killer, and didn't know who it was. I'm stating that is odds against in my opinion. But I'm not ruling it out.
there's no conspiracy, I'm stating that the police lie, subvert, and withhold information to deflect all of the time.
I'm stating that it doesn't, right now, pass the sniff test.
It may well be that it was a random killer, and didn't know who it was. I'm stating that is odds against in my opinion. But I'm not ruling it out.
People soon forget, however grave the travesty. Did you see Birmingham plod
arrest a victim last week?
arrest a victim last week?
CagliariG 11 Jul 26 15:43
No inside info from your mate at MFI shafter?
post 1 lie ive posted last 20yrs..i'll post 10 of yours?
No inside info from your mate at MFI shafter?
post 1 lie ive posted last 20yrs..i'll post 10 of yours?
Do you believe that the police and politicians always tell the full truth?
There's a thread on here covering the story where a woman ploughed through a fence on school grounds in wimbledon, driving a chelsea tractor.
the police said nothing to see here after a short investigation.
the families of the children who were killed didn't believe them (luckily)
look it up, loper.
the police said nothing to see here after a short investigation.
the families of the children who were killed didn't believe them (luckily)
look it up, loper.
Dermot Murnaghan R.I.P
Widdicombe attacked around 12-30 pm Wednesday
Widdicombe attacked around 12-30 pm Wednesday
read the thread on politics.
my only point from the start was that there was much more to it than they were letting on, and it should have been tested in court.
it's not a conspiracy, just common sense. if something looks and feels wrong, it usually is.
don't believe police propaganda uncritically. ever. would be my advice.
my only point from the start was that there was much more to it than they were letting on, and it should have been tested in court.
it's not a conspiracy, just common sense. if something looks and feels wrong, it usually is.
don't believe police propaganda uncritically. ever. would be my advice.
They use the conspiracy word to shut people up, facile, boring and unimaginative.
it basically means not approved opinion. plenty of conspiracy theories around Farage, but of course he is fair game for the establishment. so nobody in the establishment or thinks they have high status opinion is bothered.
the best one was the origin of coronavirus. conspiracy theory that is was a lab leak (even though there was a lab experimenting with the virus in Wuhan, pure coincidence). As soon as crusty Joe briefly woke up to tell us it was likely a lab leak, it became approved opinion overnight!
the best one was the origin of coronavirus. conspiracy theory that is was a lab leak (even though there was a lab experimenting with the virus in Wuhan, pure coincidence). As soon as crusty Joe briefly woke up to tell us it was likely a lab leak, it became approved opinion overnight!
Some people can multi task Hugo/Rico/Syd. That doesn't mean just switching between usernames btw
Hugo-Hackenbush • July 11, 2026 3:37 PM BST
cider ive no doubt ewe occasionally appear down the shops as Mrs Doubtfire.
cider ive no doubt ewe occasionally appear down the shops as Mrs Doubtfire.
even though there was a lab experimenting with the virus in Wuhan
typical Cider mis-info
even though there was a lab experimenting with viruses in Wuhan
a point worth investigating and discussio.
typical Cider mis-info
even though there was a lab experimenting with viruses in Wuhan
a point worth investigating and discussio.
pay attention, dave numbers
Research at the WIV:
Starting in at least 2016 – and with no indication of a stop prior to the COVID-19 outbreak – WIV researchers conducted experiments involving RaTG13, the bat coronavirus identified by the WIV in January 2020 as its closest sample to SARS-CoV-2 (96.2% similar). The WIV became a focal point for international coronavirus research after the 2003 SARS outbreak and has since studied animals including mice, bats, and pangolins.
The WIV has a published record of conducting “gain-of-function” research to engineer chimeric viruses. But the WIV has not been transparent or consistent about its record of studying viruses most similar to the COVID-19 virus, including “RaTG13,” which it sampled from a cave in Yunnan Province in 2013 after several miners died of SARS-like illness.
WHO investigators must have access to the records of the WIV’s work on bat and other coronaviruses before the COVID-19 outbreak. As part of a thorough inquiry, they must have a full accounting of why the WIV altered and then removed online records of its work with RaTG13 and other viruses.
Research at the WIV:
Starting in at least 2016 – and with no indication of a stop prior to the COVID-19 outbreak – WIV researchers conducted experiments involving RaTG13, the bat coronavirus identified by the WIV in January 2020 as its closest sample to SARS-CoV-2 (96.2% similar). The WIV became a focal point for international coronavirus research after the 2003 SARS outbreak and has since studied animals including mice, bats, and pangolins.
The WIV has a published record of conducting “gain-of-function” research to engineer chimeric viruses. But the WIV has not been transparent or consistent about its record of studying viruses most similar to the COVID-19 virus, including “RaTG13,” which it sampled from a cave in Yunnan Province in 2013 after several miners died of SARS-like illness.
WHO investigators must have access to the records of the WIV’s work on bat and other coronaviruses before the COVID-19 outbreak. As part of a thorough inquiry, they must have a full accounting of why the WIV altered and then removed online records of its work with RaTG13 and other viruses.
26 year old man taken into custody and released 24 hours later and no need for further investigations.
Plod has probably gone down to the nearest town, arrested a local druggie, given him a free meal and let him out the next day.
Gives them breathing space, stops the speculation and trouble and keeps the plebs in order for a while.
That is how they operate now.
Probably have news they do not want us to know about.
It is how it works under a Labour Government.
Plod has probably gone down to the nearest town, arrested a local druggie, given him a free meal and let him out the next day.
Gives them breathing space, stops the speculation and trouble and keeps the plebs in order for a while.
That is how they operate now.
Probably have news they do not want us to know about.
It is how it works under a Labour Government.
Barstool, it is standard to look for the last people to have had contact with the deceased, purely innocent or not, elimination of those people is a priority. Looks like you are being sucked into ciders conspiracy theories and not allowing the investigation to progress as would be normal for any Police Force at this stage?
Btw Cider is proving he has not a clue by deflecting!!
Btw Cider is proving he has not a clue by deflecting!!
no source of course from cider
now in biological terms 96.2% similar is not similar at all, so it seem like an odd thing in a scientific paper.
and the source?
https://2017-2021.state.gov/fact-sheet-activity-at-the-wuhan-institute-of-virology/
Of course not a scientific paper but a paper published in the last days of the trump government. (Which even says there is no conclusive evidence on covid origins)
So we get back to cider telling lies as per.
Note that in my original post I said
even though there was a lab experimenting with the virus in Wuhan
typical Cider mis-info
even though there was a lab experimenting with viruses in Wuhan
a point worth investigating and discussion.
Now cider and people like him could go with the second option, but they choose to go with misinformation instead. Every time.
now in biological terms 96.2% similar is not similar at all, so it seem like an odd thing in a scientific paper.
and the source?
https://2017-2021.state.gov/fact-sheet-activity-at-the-wuhan-institute-of-virology/
Of course not a scientific paper but a paper published in the last days of the trump government. (Which even says there is no conclusive evidence on covid origins)
So we get back to cider telling lies as per.
Note that in my original post I said
even though there was a lab experimenting with the virus in Wuhan
typical Cider mis-info
even though there was a lab experimenting with viruses in Wuhan
a point worth investigating and discussion.
Now cider and people like him could go with the second option, but they choose to go with misinformation instead. Every time.
CagliariG.
How do you know this 26yo white man was the last person to have contact with her?
Only ask, as obviously I have missed something.
How do you know this 26yo white man was the last person to have contact with her?
Only ask, as obviously I have missed something.
Not what I said barstool, he may not have been but they must have had a hint to focus on that individual so quickly.
I suppose have just become very cynical of the establishment these days CG.
Keep well. No offence meant.
Keep well. No offence meant.
No offence taken barstool, cider tends to try a tangent so people are deflected from his fantasies despite himself believing fake news and using it to bolster his narative.
Tbf he claims to be a "True Crime afficionado" so maybe real Police officers are fair game ?
Tbf he claims to be a "True Crime afficionado" so maybe real Police officers are fair game ?
Given how many stories keep surfacing about "real police officers" not behaving in the manner that "real police officers" really should, is it any wonder public trust in them is so low these days ?
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Replies: 5565711 Jul 26 16:38
They use the conspiracy word to shut people up, facile, boring and unimaginative'
do 'they'? certainly seems to shut you up. why? if you thought all these nefarious goings-on were mugging off the public you should tell anyone and everyone about it, in great detail but instead conspiracy mugs just mutter about the 'elites' and 'msm' and 'sheeple'and never put up anything to support their outlandish claims. never. why? its a scandal and must be exposed, but never is, except among the online 'truth community'
conspiracy mugs know nothing and therefore believe anything, the opposite of what they claim
Replies: 5565711 Jul 26 16:38
They use the conspiracy word to shut people up, facile, boring and unimaginative'
do 'they'? certainly seems to shut you up. why? if you thought all these nefarious goings-on were mugging off the public you should tell anyone and everyone about it, in great detail but instead conspiracy mugs just mutter about the 'elites' and 'msm' and 'sheeple'and never put up anything to support their outlandish claims. never. why? its a scandal and must be exposed, but never is, except among the online 'truth community'
conspiracy mugs know nothing and therefore believe anything, the opposite of what they claim
dave1357 11 Jul 26 17:12
even though there was a lab experimenting with the virus in Wuhan
typical Cider mis-info
even though there was a lab experimenting with viruses in Wuhan
a point worth investigating and discussio.'
there is a considerable chance the virus escaped from the lab. most reputable organisations agree its probable
what is remarkable imo is the lack of demand for reparation from the ccp that hid the origins of it, denied its existence, stopped domestic flights but allowed international ones and the whistel-blowers disappeared. a virus that killed millions and bankrupted half the world yet nobody demands an explanation. and they have previous, which is why taiwan was so quick to act. they know
where are the conspiracy loons? a bona fide case for conspiracy naughtiness and cover-up yet not a sausage from the truth-seekers. odd
now imagine a virus escaped from a u.s lab and caused such havoc. does anyone suppose there would not be denunciations of the u.s. and demands for reparations and conspiracies flooding the web? no. you just know that would have happened
conspiracies only happen in certain places, never russia or china. both squeaky-clean and love conspiracies as their own people cant see them, as independent media has been erased and the web blocked. but mugs here cant see it. they dont understand they are being played
even though there was a lab experimenting with the virus in Wuhan
typical Cider mis-info
even though there was a lab experimenting with viruses in Wuhan
a point worth investigating and discussio.'
there is a considerable chance the virus escaped from the lab. most reputable organisations agree its probable
what is remarkable imo is the lack of demand for reparation from the ccp that hid the origins of it, denied its existence, stopped domestic flights but allowed international ones and the whistel-blowers disappeared. a virus that killed millions and bankrupted half the world yet nobody demands an explanation. and they have previous, which is why taiwan was so quick to act. they know
where are the conspiracy loons? a bona fide case for conspiracy naughtiness and cover-up yet not a sausage from the truth-seekers. odd
now imagine a virus escaped from a u.s lab and caused such havoc. does anyone suppose there would not be denunciations of the u.s. and demands for reparations and conspiracies flooding the web? no. you just know that would have happened
conspiracies only happen in certain places, never russia or china. both squeaky-clean and love conspiracies as their own people cant see them, as independent media has been erased and the web blocked. but mugs here cant see it. they dont understand they are being played
just copied and pasted the latest headlines that a 28yr old south yorkshire man been arrested.
strange to remove it.
strange to remove it.
what the odd on the 2 lads been arreted one released been brothers/related,arrest of 1t led to arrest of 2nd
Have they definitely ruled out a family connection to Widdecombe?
not sure,till ruling out politialy motivated nd terrorism,seems like they new who they were looking for
untill its announce officially what happened we will be kept firmly in the mushroom club.
Prob caught on cctv and likely the car on drive @ 12:25 wed .Same car in area earlier that day and clocked by various witnesses. Appears to be the shorts T shirt and walking boots, parked oddly and appeared out of place.(garage witness)
First arrest could be the van, could even be a delivery driver but that was Thursday, Ann was most likely dead by then.Hence the no longer part of investigation bit.
First arrest could be the van, could even be a delivery driver but that was Thursday, Ann was most likely dead by then.Hence the no longer part of investigation bit.
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