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Coneygree1971
07 Jul 26 13:17
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...to the surprise of absolutely nobody!

https://www.racingpost.com/news/industry/racing-industry/controversial-affordability-checks-on-punters-given-green-light-by-gambling-commission-despite-opposition-from-racing-and-bookmakers-aNU4B2Q7rmT5/
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Report pandora1963 July 7, 2026 1:22 PM BST
unless you want to hand over your pay slips from months back, shoe size, weight, sister in laws job....etc, you will be restricted to £100 a month. This is the destruction of online gambling.
Report uptheirons July 7, 2026 1:26 PM BST
The GC are,and always have been,determined to stop gambling and deciding how a certain sector spend their money
Report jamee1 July 7, 2026 1:43 PM BST
This all looks fair enough to me. More reasonable thresholds than the previously touted £250, and some clarity that those thresholds relate to net deposits rather than "losses" which could have meant anything.
Report Cider July 7, 2026 1:47 PM BST
There is nothing reasonable about a requirement to disclose personal financial information in order to be granted the right to spend your own money.
Report uptheirons July 7, 2026 1:47 PM BST
Absolutely correct,Cider.
Report jerseyboy July 7, 2026 1:51 PM BST
How does this effect non UK residents ??  Cheers..
Report jamee1 July 7, 2026 1:58 PM BST

Jul 7, 2026 -- 1:47PM, Cider wrote:


There is nothing reasonable about a requirement to disclose personal financial information in order to be granted the right to spend your own money.


That's not what the article says. It says there will be a 24-hour net-deposit threshold of £5000 (to become £1000 in the future) that will trigger a credit search to look for signs of financial distress.

To be required to share financial documents you would need to first cross the threshold, and then go on to fail a soft credit search.

There should be less cause to share financial documents than there is today.

Report Cider July 7, 2026 2:08 PM BST
Multi £bn financial institutions can't identify financial distress from a credit report, so exactly how does a bookmaker achieve that.

They don't know what they are doing.

It's akin to trying to solve a jigsaw with one piece.
Report howard July 7, 2026 2:11 PM BST
I am on £100 a month now ( betfair )  They don't want payslips because there are none. Sounds better for other people than was previously proposed.   £5k  to £1k  a big drop though.  When you can still bet thousands in one day at the track.
Report uptheirons July 7, 2026 2:13 PM BST
Any such difficulty in purchasing Shares?
Report Cider July 7, 2026 2:14 PM BST
If you're right jamee1, then it will need a new moniker, as what you have outlined is not an affordability check. Untold amount of people have clean credit reports and no money. Lots of others are rolling in it and can't manage to keep their direct debits up to date. Nothing surprises in the world of 2026.
Report dave1357 July 7, 2026 2:17 PM BST
Cider • July 7, 2026 2:08 PM BST
Multi £bn financial institutions can't identify financial distress from a credit report, so exactly how does a bookmaker achieve that


cider pretending not to be able to read, to try to make his point.

It says "to look for signs of financial distress" not "identify financial distress".
Report freddiewilliams July 7, 2026 2:18 PM BST
Bit late for the now hunner pounders
Report Cider July 7, 2026 2:31 PM BST
Exactly how does a credit search enable an entity that provides gaming services to 'look for financial distress'?
Report dave1357 July 7, 2026 2:39 PM BST
repeat, it says "look for signs of financial distress" not "look for financial distress".
Report Cider July 7, 2026 2:40 PM BST
Exactly how does a credit search enable an entity that provides gaming services to 'look for signs of financial distress'?
Report Cider July 7, 2026 2:41 PM BST
Hint.If you think it can, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
Report Hugo-Hackenbush July 7, 2026 2:41 PM BST
this is a saviour for the masses...hail the GC.
Report slickster July 7, 2026 2:42 PM BST
None of this nonsense in Ireland jerseyboy.
Report dave1357 July 7, 2026 2:43 PM BST
So you are trying to say that credit checks don't show ccjs, loan mortgage arrears?
Report second again July 7, 2026 2:46 PM BST
Is there a rule in Ireland about having to show ID for any win over 2,000 Euros?
Report dave1357 July 7, 2026 2:46 PM BST
@ slickster

https://www.grai.ie/news/commencement-of-gambling-regulatory-authority-of-ireland-remote-betting-licences

With the commencement of GRAI licences, licensed operators must now meet strict obligations designed to protect consumers and uphold the integrity of the market. These include age verification requirements to prevent underage gambling, obligations to pay out winnings, safeguards such as a ban on facilitating credit or accepting credit cards and requirements on closing accounts on request. Operators are subject to ongoing compliance monitoring, and the GRAI has powers to investigate operators, enforce compliance, apply significant sanctions, and take action against unlicensed or illegal activity.
Report dave1357 July 7, 2026 2:48 PM BST
@ cider

So you are trying to say that credit checks don't show ccjs, loan mortgage arrears?
Report slickster July 7, 2026 2:49 PM BST
Yes second again. A scandalous rule. If you want 2k on you need proof of identity etc. Fair enough. If some old dear has 50cent on her lucky numbers at 4000-1 she collects 2000.50. But incredibly she ain't getting paid until she brings in all her documents. Another example of the wrong people in charge without the ability to see the difference.
Report dave1357 July 7, 2026 2:51 PM BST
slickster, the new GRAI in force means automatic ID requirements for all Irish online betting.
Report slickster July 7, 2026 2:54 PM BST
I should clarify dave I don't bet online. Would be impossible to get anything on. Hence I use the shops, plural, regularly. Only way to go that I can see. Why bet online showing them your hand all the time?
Report jerseyboy July 7, 2026 2:58 PM BST
Slickster   No such thing as CCJ in Jersey, self governed thank god  not by those UK clowns.
Report uptheirons July 7, 2026 3:01 PM BST
The Books still wouldn't take a bet off anybody whatever that has half a clue
Report Hugo-Hackenbush July 7, 2026 3:05 PM BST
20% better value on BF and dickster uses shops..

pmsl..think ive jussed lagged my y frunts 😆
Report dave1357 July 7, 2026 3:07 PM BST
slickster • July 7, 2026 2:54 PM BST
I should clarify dave I don't bet online. Would be impossible to get anything on. Hence I use the shops, plural, regularly. Only way to go that I can see. Why bet online showing them your hand all the time?


The shops come under the GRAI umbrella over the next year, so there will be changes in them.
Report hulk23 July 7, 2026 3:08 PM BST
poddi's by far the biggest player on ere. 

he be checking himself for signs of financial distress ??
Report jerseyboy July 7, 2026 3:19 PM BST
It is not going to effect 95% of the punters on here imo..
Report freddiewilliams July 7, 2026 3:23 PM BST
They've already been affected and can't deposit
Report Herbie-53 July 7, 2026 3:25 PM BST
Where can those who refuse to bend over as we object to a forensic rectal probe, a DNA sample, fingerprints etc. get a bet on in future?
I keep hearing about such sites...but they're never named - I'd rather take a chance and roll the dice with them (as I'm only small-time)
as the only option left is the shop...and I haven't done that for years as we get vigorously
búúm-rápéd in thereSad
Report uptheirons July 7, 2026 3:27 PM BST
Dickster,The Dublin Leprechaun claims to get on in the Shops without them noticing.
Absolute Comedy GoldLaugh
Report Hugo-Hackenbush July 7, 2026 3:34 PM BST
Report freddiewilliams July 7, 2026 3:34 PM BST
Slicks shoe repair shop making plenty
Report freddiewilliams July 7, 2026 3:35 PM BST
They love his forecasts
Report slickster July 7, 2026 3:37 PM BST
Different jurisdictions dave. I haven't heard anything unless changes are in the offing. Which I doubt. Last I heard from our government was "we have no plans to introduce affordability checks as we consider them too intrusive". Can't argue with that.
Bubbles I'm at it decades. You need to know what you're doing. Only stopped twice by the red mob in many years.
Report slickster July 7, 2026 3:41 PM BST
Once the green mob brought their bots in frico I was gone. Practically. Use here when it suits. Otherwise, once you have a working gambling brain, shops are the only way to go. No good for you freako as your drone wouldn't be able to help you. How's Tony?
Report Hugo-Hackenbush July 7, 2026 3:43 PM BST
Blair?
Report hulk23 July 7, 2026 3:44 PM BST
bookies love affordability checks.  helps with the profiling. 

lets them know who's got the money and who's not worth bothering about. 

do an affordability check, find out you've got half a million in the bank. 

invite you round to simon clares gaff on sunday to meet his family.
Report slickster July 7, 2026 3:44 PM BST
The ten bobber Grin
Report Trident July 7, 2026 3:45 PM BST
Bookmakers advantage!
Report Herbie-53 July 7, 2026 3:50 PM BST
I can see things reverting to the days of the 80s & 90s...there was a guy everyone knew from the bookies who used to go around the pub taking bets.
He was a bit of a rogue but trustworthy to a degree and he did actually cough up and never ransacked anyone - I remember I didn't do many bets with
him as I liked the man but sitting in the pub one night, I had what I thought was a cert in a 5f handicap at Goodwood and couldn't see it being beaten.

I told him I'd have a tenner E/W on it and that it'd pííss up - it won three lengths (just as I said it would) and he actually paid me out at 9/2 SP
not the best-priced 4/1 I took & 1/4 odds too in a 9-runner race...so it must've been a good result for him - everyone else ignored my sage adviceCrazy
I could actually pick 'em back in the day - it's literally YEARS since I've had enough confidence to be so bullish about a sprint handicapperPlain

The horse was called Aughfad...and he paid for a few nights in that pubHappy
Report howard July 7, 2026 4:02 PM BST
sligo the place to go for those not seen it    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6KBg45G56Q
Report jamee1 July 7, 2026 4:05 PM BST

Jul 7, 2026 -- 4:02PM, howard wrote:


sligo the place to go for those not seen it

Report jamee1 July 7, 2026 4:05 PM BST
Laugh
Report the dealer July 7, 2026 4:07 PM BST
LaughLaugh
Report uptheirons July 7, 2026 4:07 PM BST
Howard has tracked down ,DicksterLaugh
Report Fashion Fever July 7, 2026 4:13 PM BST
glorified supscriptions
98% will lose £100 per month allowance to there chosen bookie

they dot wanna lay you monkey ew on something 9/10 runner race with 4 runners 400+ on here
Report Coneygree1971 July 7, 2026 6:49 PM BST
'There is nothing reasonable about a requirement to disclose personal financial information in order to be granted the right to spend your own money.'

Is the correct answer. Sets a terrible precedent which the nanny state, sponsored by the appalling Labour Party, will use to restrict, or worse, ban, anything they don't like - which is pretty much everything the working-class people enjoy.
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