Affordability checks to go ahead....

I am on £100 a month now ( betfair )  They don't want payslips because there are none. Sounds better for other people than was previously proposed.   £5k  to £1k  a big drop though.  When you can still bet thousands in one day at the track.

Any such difficulty in purchasing Shares?

If you're right jamee1, then it will need a new moniker, as what you have outlined is not an affordability check. Untold amount of people have clean credit reports and no money. Lots of others are rolling in it and can't manage to keep their direct debits up to date. Nothing surprises in the world of 2026.

Cider • July 7, 2026 2:08 PM BST
Multi £bn financial institutions can't identify financial distress from a credit report, so exactly how does a bookmaker achieve that

cider pretending not to be able to read, to try to make his point.

It says "to look for signs of financial distress" not "identify financial distress".

Bit late for the now hunner pounders

Exactly how does a credit search enable an entity that provides gaming services to 'look for financial distress'?

repeat, it says "look for signs of financial distress" not "look for financial distress".

Exactly how does a credit search enable an entity that provides gaming services to 'look for signs of financial distress'?

Hint.If you think it can, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

this is a saviour for the masses...hail the GC.

None of this nonsense in Ireland jerseyboy.

So you are trying to say that credit checks don't show ccjs, loan mortgage arrears?

Is there a rule in Ireland about having to show ID for any win over 2,000 Euros?

@ slickster

https://www.grai.ie/news/commencement-of-gambling-regulatory-authority-of-ireland-remote-betting-licences

With the commencement of GRAI licences, licensed operators must now meet strict obligations designed to protect consumers and uphold the integrity of the market. These include age verification requirements to prevent underage gambling, obligations to pay out winnings, safeguards such as a ban on facilitating credit or accepting credit cards and requirements on closing accounts on request. Operators are subject to ongoing compliance monitoring, and the GRAI has powers to investigate operators, enforce compliance, apply significant sanctions, and take action against unlicensed or illegal activity.

@ cider

So you are trying to say that credit checks don't show ccjs, loan mortgage arrears?

Yes second again. A scandalous rule. If you want 2k on you need proof of identity etc. Fair enough. If some old dear has 50cent on her lucky numbers at 4000-1 she collects 2000.50. But incredibly she ain't getting paid until she brings in all her documents. Another example of the wrong people in charge without the ability to see the difference.

slickster, the new GRAI in force means automatic ID requirements for all Irish online betting.

I should clarify dave I don't bet online. Would be impossible to get anything on. Hence I use the shops, plural, regularly. Only way to go that I can see. Why bet online showing them your hand all the time?

Slickster   No such thing as CCJ in Jersey, self governed thank god  not by those UK clowns.

The Books still wouldn't take a bet off anybody whatever that has half a clue

20% better value on BF and dickster uses shops..

pmsl..think ive jussed lagged my y frunts 😆

slickster • July 7, 2026 2:54 PM BST
I should clarify dave I don't bet online. Would be impossible to get anything on. Hence I use the shops, plural, regularly. Only way to go that I can see. Why bet online showing them your hand all the time?

The shops come under the GRAI umbrella over the next year, so there will be changes in them.

poddi's by far the biggest player on ere. 

he be checking himself for signs of financial distress ??

It is not going to effect 95% of the punters on here imo..

They've already been affected and can't deposit

Where can those who refuse to bend over as we object to a forensic rectal probe, a DNA sample, fingerprints etc. get a bet on in future?
I keep hearing about such sites...but they're never named - I'd rather take a chance and roll the dice with them (as I'm only small-time)
as the only option left is the shop...and I haven't done that for years as we get vigorously
búúm-rápéd in there

Dickster,The Dublin Leprechaun claims to get on in the Shops without them noticing.
Absolute Comedy Gold

Slicks shoe repair shop making plenty

They love his forecasts

Different jurisdictions dave. I haven't heard anything unless changes are in the offing. Which I doubt. Last I heard from our government was "we have no plans to introduce affordability checks as we consider them too intrusive". Can't argue with that.
Bubbles I'm at it decades. You need to know what you're doing. Only stopped twice by the red mob in many years.

Once the green mob brought their bots in frico I was gone. Practically. Use here when it suits. Otherwise, once you have a working gambling brain, shops are the only way to go. No good for you freako as your drone wouldn't be able to help you. How's Tony?

Blair?

bookies love affordability checks.  helps with the profiling. 

lets them know who's got the money and who's not worth bothering about. 

do an affordability check, find out you've got half a million in the bank. 

invite you round to simon clares gaff on sunday to meet his family.

The ten bobber

Bookmakers advantage!

I can see things reverting to the days of the 80s & 90s...there was a guy everyone knew from the bookies who used to go around the pub taking bets.
He was a bit of a rogue but trustworthy to a degree and he did actually cough up and never ransacked anyone - I remember I didn't do many bets with
him as I liked the man but sitting in the pub one night, I had what I thought was a cert in a 5f handicap at Goodwood and couldn't see it being beaten.

I told him I'd have a tenner E/W on it and that it'd pííss up - it won three lengths (just as I said it would) and he actually paid me out at 9/2 SP
not the best-priced 4/1 I took & 1/4 odds too in a 9-runner race...so it must've been a good result for him - everyone else ignored my sage advice
I could actually pick 'em back in the day - it's literally YEARS since I've had enough confidence to be so bullish about a sprint handicapper

The horse was called Aughfad...and he paid for a few nights in that pub

sligo the place to go for those not seen it    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6KBg45G56Q

Jul 7, 2026 -- 4:02PM, howard wrote:

sligo the place to go for those not seen it

Howard has tracked down ,Dickster

glorified supscriptions
98% will lose £100 per month allowance to there chosen bookie

they dot wanna lay you monkey ew on something 9/10 runner race with 4 runners 400+ on here

'There is nothing reasonable about a requirement to disclose personal financial information in order to be granted the right to spend your own money.'

Is the correct answer. Sets a terrible precedent which the nanny state, sponsored by the appalling Labour Party, will use to restrict, or worse, ban, anything they don't like - which is pretty much everything the working-class people enjoy.

This particular idiocy was "sponsored" by the tory party in their white paper. If anything, the version under Labour doesn't appear to be anything like as draconian as the tory version.

Good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyone can open an account with at least 30 different bookmakers. Then there's the shops . The courses. The illegal books in every pub.

£90 for Wimbledon.  sorry we've noticed you're spunking a lot of cash going to sporting events. 

can we see some payslips.

no! gambling only.

Down the local brothel
How much?
Show me yours

Bookies fault. AC was part of the bookies business plan many years ago. It's objective was to manage punters superior to their day-release traders.

Dreadful thing greed they couldn’t get enough,cold as ice now look at the mess…..

The whole point of gambling is to inflict financial distress on other punters.

Beating the odds and beating the commission can only be done if there are plenty of bad judges out there trying to win back their losses.

Any long-term winning punter who thinks this announcement is not as bad as they feared, or that it won't affect them, is deluded.

Horse racing is a million miles from the circus material and should be left well alone…..

Shouldn’t be mentioned in the same breath by these non entities……just check them out it’s enough to make you vomit tbh….

Jul 8, 2026 -- 8:07PM, screaming from beneaththewaves wrote:

The whole point of gambling is to inflict financial distress on other punters. Beating the odds and beating the commission can only be done if there are plenty of bad judges out there trying to win back their losses.Any long-term winning punter who thinks this announcement is not as bad as they feared, or that it won't affect them, is deluded.

This is the direction of society, I don't see it changing before I'm pushing up daisies.

Accounting for the lowest common denominator. Dumbing down exams, the welfare state, reminding people to drink when it's warm, feeding kids breakfast in school.

It's all about perceived high status and assumed intelligence. For those inflicting this junk on the masses that is. The peak of course was the covid neurosis. Although the waspis and fat jabs on the taxpayer give that a reasonable contest.

The energy price flaw (sic) is another example.

People are no longer accountable for their own choices, decisions, ignorance, lack of curiosity or inertia. Apparently.

Nige says it's like "living in communist Russia".

What's the gaff headed for if you can't take 5 mil off a cryto billionaire, or take bags full of cash on the high street from middle easterners (like our king) or funnel lucre through phoney business, or betting accounts.
It's just not on

At the moment, people are free to give away cash. And take it. Unless the Liberalists despise you, and will do anything to retain their lock on power.

I will put all my money into 'Make me a winner' contests.

Poor credit ratings and you are gone imo.

It is becoming increasingly clear that the people driving this are aiming to close down horse racing. The affordability checks are just a device to confuse racing into thinking that they will allow it to continue so long as we protect gamblers. The same blob have already stopped greyhound racing in some countries, the Green Party are opposed to any form of sport involving animals and their ratings are holding up. I am glad in a way that I am unlikely to live for more than 5 more years (82 now) as I have been a racing fan for  the last 75 years. I already had my livestock farm shut down in 1997 by legislation involving the animal welfare lobby so I am a bit surprised that racing has lasted this long. I remember Ginger McCain back in the days when the Grand National was under threat telling the activists to go after farmers instead and thinking "we are fighting the same people you fool" We stand or fall together in the long run.
Meanwhile cage fighting is encouraged and grooming gangs are thriving.

The irony sage is that most of the wets on rtv and at the rp for example are in general, fellow travellers. The only reason they object to the perceived threat to gambling freedom is palpably the threat to their own seats on the gravy train. It's like salami slicing with rtv, they are pumping out more and more of a liberalist agenda. Horse racing is one of the only spaces that has remained predominately free of woke and political agendas. But I sense that is also coming to an end, alas. Oily Bell wants racecourses to look more like south London. Good luck with that, son.

Must be the end for on course bookmakers as well then.  Unless they're going to conduct a financial wellbeing check on everyone that wants to have a bet with them.

Be with you in a minute luv we're just waiting to hear from experian to see if daves missed any payments on his barclaycard.

What a sorry state this country is. A joke nation.

The sheep accept anything they say down on the circus…..

Spineless nation tbh.

The ace is right the fodder always give up and accept

Hulk you are showing that you really know nothing outside of £108 offers on the exchange. On course bookmakers will not be affected by the checks being implemented as the target is remote gambling. hth

Only folks with clean credit reports are permitted on the racecourse. Praps they'll need to flash their clearscore app at the entrance.

Is losing remotely not the same as losing at the racetrack?
Still lost haven't you ?

Over 80 new account offers on odds checker

Sage is 82!is there anyone else on ere under 50?

you can hand over 100k in one day's bets at the track and lose the lot no questions asked hulk

Which only highlights the utter stupidity of the Affordability Checks carried out by a Quango with absolutely no experience of the Gambling Industry and are hell bent on stopping gambling without a single challenge from the hapless BHA

Like Gosden alluded to, we have a government. They could easily just tell these bottom feeders to take a hike.

They won't.

Governing is all about feels now obviously. Freedom of choice, accountability for personal decision making is so passé.

That of course goes for 'Liberal' 'Democrats' 'Conservatives' and 'Labour'

33 
Which only highlights the utter stupidity of the Affordability Checks carried out by a Quango with absolutely no experience of the Gambling Industry and are hell bent on stopping gambling without a single challenge from the hapless BHA

Stop listening to John Gosden then repeating you fool…..

uptheirons 09 Jul 26 14:33 
Which only highlights the utter stupidity of the Affordability Checks carried out by a Quango with absolutely no experience of the Gambling Industry and are hell bent on stopping gambling without a single challenge from the hapless BHA


.

The sheep accept anything they say down on the circus…..

Spineless nation tbh.

   True Formy, pathetic reactions from BHA, owners, Track owners, etc, who all went down without a whimper.

Hopefully a brain will pop up and get this Korean nonsense reversed……

Punters have repeatedly opposed the checks.
It is for the BHA to take action as nothing the punters have said makes the slightest difference to the Anti GC

The anti manure ruled the national….

Now this,probably detest the game tbh,probably see it as vulgar…..

Deep down they wouldn’t give a jot if a thousand punters a day blew their home tbh……self importance,look good but don’t care…

Hate is a dreadful word i seldom use but i hate this lot tbh.

I think racing should pool it's resources and hire Lawyers to challenge this all the way to the

Supreme Court on the grounds that it is unacceptable for the Government to restrict what people

spend their money on as long as it's legal.

"Despise" would be more appropriate.
If these Zealots succeed here,what is the next target?

What does the GC say about oncourse punters doing their Bollix in. ?? Or casino punters ??

  Whats the difference to anyone "compelled" to put a bet on.

.... National lottery, scratch cards ......   etc etc.

One target at a time for them,Glasgow

..Nearly spat my coffee out when hoiles said " well at least we know where we stand now "

Omaze bingo postcode lottery the most pernicious.

But obviously it's nothing to do with the underclass separating themselves from their benefit income.

It seems to be getting forgotten that although the books are now getting their collective knickers in a twist over this can we please remember that long long long before the AC checks were ever a thing the books were restricting punters left right and centre, and the only reason they are complaining now is because of the fines that they are in line to face should someone sell the family silver in order to play the casino filth.

And if the AC did get defeated all that would happen is that sports bettors would still find themselves restricted and the books would once again have free reign to fleece the casino fish.

it was quite a posh couple that won the Coniston one recently... glasgow yeah it's hardly get out the champers.  But I suppose you can play a lot more money

Obviously duffy, I doubt anyone is supporting bookmakers. The genesis of that issue is racing being dependent on their profit rather than revenue.

As I've covered ad infinitum, this 'fight' should have been framed as sensibility, personal responsibility and realism over self aggrandising social justice warriors. There's absolutely nothing anyone can do to stop people doing stupid things. There are not too many people around that haven't done stupid things themselves. Liberalists always seem to have a dream that they can eliminate people making mistakes through state/central control. They. Can't.

Affordability is just a means to an end. The end is a ban on horse racing.

Certainly,sage

The outcome was written in stone before the GC started. Their remit was to look into the harmful

effects of gambling. At no point has any consideration been given to the positive aspects of playing

the horses in a World that has otherwise, become totally dumbed down.A curse on the lot of these

interfering bustards!

So these unelected, unaccountable, bureaucratic, tyrants get to destroy a multi million pound industry which employs thousands and provides entertainment for millions, get to impose affordability checks on any punter who losses more than £33 per day. Its non of their business how we choose to spend our money. Absolute kill joys

Correct

true  this, i was witness ,youngish woman walked into freds few weeks ago in despair her 18 year old was gambling everything on the roulettes , she wanted help from the managers in the shop etcas he was coming to some inheritance , she wanted them  to ban him whatever, the reply she hads, sorry but if he doesnt self excludr theres nothing they can do to stop him, ( perhaps this is correct ), hes over 18 so parents hav e no say in the matter

Perhaps it is time to remind people that they are responsible for their own actions

Banhorse racing. There's 7 million matched on France match

Ban on horse racing?

the punter who took  betfair to court and other,s whove accuesed bookmaker,s of baically grooming them, obviouly think it is other people,s business,same as people who spent their money on interest only mort, car finance,leaseholds,energy/phone contracts, payday loans etc,etc,etc think its now other peoples business that they didnt read or understand the terms of their purchase/contract

someone sell the family silver in order to play the casino filth.

if someone sells the family silver, spends 38 quid of it to get into a racetrack and spunks the other 30 grand on the first favourite nobody cares ? 

but if he sells it and wants to deposit £200 on here he has gamblers anonymous round his house asking to see his latest equifax