We'd all like to have that edge wouldn't we

Coolmore have it, they must get fed up of winning.

I'm sure Rico would agree with Simon. So do I , when I majored on each way doubles I had an edge before the bookies finally closed that door.

The Result being swiped 10 seconds before the On Course Announcement was enough for me to stop reading further

without an edge 99.87% will go round in circvles and lose long term.

go find an edge.

Enjoyable read, Simon.
Thank you.

The Result being swiped 10 seconds before the On Course Announcement

what did he say like?

Years later I found out, or at least was told why, some clever guys in the midlands describing themselves as ‘Internet Entrepreneurs’ had found a way to grab the live pictures from racecourses when markets were suspended off the TV giving themselves up to 10 seconds advantage over players at home, imagine that, literally finding it on the floor, especially if that’s where a leader ended up at the last. They had found an edge.

some clever guys in the midlands describing themselves as ‘Internet Entrepreneurs’ had found a way to grab the live pictures from racecourses when markets were suspended off the TV giving themselves up to 10 seconds advantage over players at home

what absolute and utter bollóx

As I said,Hugo.
Pointless reading after that

wonder why some people just make nonsesnse up?

'clever guys from the midlands' is an oxymoron but its not total bollox

a handful of people swiftly recognised that there was a time-lag between sis and atr and between terf tv and ruk (as was) so they put up dishes to grab the pics

and at the time i/r was a novelty that everyone thought they were great at and markets were full of liquid. for a couple of years it was free money for those who had the pics, until it slowly dried up, for obvious reason

a handful hit the jackpot at no risk but too many did it in

then the courses put in fibre and undercut the pics. and hd came in. then the facetimers and droners and its now busted

i was one of the 1st to have the live feed..advantage was 2 secs...but was enuff to win me 10k a week over 20yr ago..and its busted becos in running there is quids in every box that morphs into pences inside the last 3f.
oh the good times

theres a reason its busted

who nose what might have evolved if notfair had thought about the pic problem earlier?  although they had plenty to worry about and probably didnt prioritise it

i suspect there would be enough players now if they hadnt been rogered 20 odd years ago but thats specualtion

i used to berate the 101 merchants for making it so obvious but the wanchors wouldnt listen. they wouldnt leave a penny and advertised the advantage rather than leaving 20 quid for someone else

and if you made 10k a week you must have been behind others. i know of some who made a lot more than that, 10k a day

doin what ydc? i got every penny 1.1 > 1.01 every race.

and thats why you left yourself open to a wacky event and would win small for a ton of races and then lose plenty on a black swan

maybe they were a bit smarter with their advantage and saw the value at 2 or whatever and made a lot more for less risk

and laying fallers, which i know was a big earner

i know people who laid fallers on the phone..they only could operate during the jumps season..ive seen them go 2 weeks without a click...you're in cloud cuckoo land tolo.

you should join me. its rather nice

you are so fick its odd. forget the phone. i can only assume you were not at the head of the queue or too dim to take the value rather then the certainty

i was late to the game, as a pc wasnt for me and i didnt get the interweb at all. for 6 months my bets were phoned in

i was such a mug for about a year. when i finally worked it out the glory days were gone but i still managed to do well, and lay plenty of fallers. dunno what you were looking at

all i got to know subsequently could not believe their good fortune and have largely given it up

post your lifetime portal..i'll be the 1st to say wd.

cant post alifetime portal as its on several accounts. and i dontgivas1t anyway so wouldnt attempt to validate to anyone

your obsession with it is childish

and your claims above are fantasy island stuff...and complete unsubstantiated spurious,utter nonsense.

they are not my claims

i stated plainly i wasnt at the head of the game but others were. and i cottoned on later then they

hardly giving it large is it?

for some reason you are doubtful that others did very well when the going was easy, dunno why as you were at the forefront yourself

i can hardly substantiate fro others. maybe they are all liars but i doubt it

'cottoned on later' pmsl.

see a urologist

What you learn through betting maturity is that any edge (for normal people) is time limited. At its peak, it feels like it will never end. But invariably does.

It works both ways as you come to realise, if you are lucky enough to identify another one, that the pressure is on to squeeze the most out of it as possible. Therefore it can lead to grave errors. Identifying the edge is not enough, it has to be allied to discipline and pragmatism. I have known people to have an edge, and still blow it due to hubris. Yes, it has happened to me.

mitolo reminiscing on what could have been..plenty anecdotes,non of witch khan be substaniated..

#wac

well sed cider..a comtemporary cistern this week khan be obsolete next week..

Nevertheless,the 10 second claim on the photos was utter cobblers

He never said about a 10 second delay on a photo.

Maybe they should take away the lay button for horse racing UK & Ireland,only available for football etc…..

Brilliant Quixall, where do the funds come from for backers if you get rid of the lay option?

Betfair have plenty of funds cag.

Where do the funds come from on sports betting….

So you create another Bookie in essence?

Like i say you would be able to lay on other sports,have you noticed the markets on cricket,football etc…..

Maybe stop being able to play on the outcome of photo finishes and stewards…..

You wouldn’t have that vomit inducing long list the length of the M6 of banned and binned undesirable…..

All you are advocating is the opposite of why the exchange was brought into existence Quixall, are you suggesting that Racing is more corrupt than football and cricket?

People have a choice,they don't have to play in those Mkts.

I definitely think they should suspend after they cross the winning line…..job done…..

Have you noticed the gossip regarding Carlisle and Newmarket ?

And do i think it’s more b#nt than football and cricket….100 %….more rancid since the birth of the pink….

I don’t think there is a market in America or Canada when they cross the line……you being a pro on the subject might know different

You should stop betting in that case Quixall and perhaps do a bit of research about football and cricket betting corruption?

What do you think it could do for the racecourse Cag ? Good chance it would go back to the good times……instead of at times resembling a car boot…..with more at the taxi rank…

Like i say suspend past the lollipop…..job done.

Haven’t you noticed the gossip regarding Carlisle and Newmarket bawface…..

Suspend the betting on the line ….takes a small part of the vomit away,every little helps i suppose….

As you don't play I/R why even comment?
You are a typical mean spirited Sweatie that begrudges others something that you are incapable of doing

Harsh tbh…..

What has laying without having a licence done for the sport of kings apart from drowning it in vomit……have you noticed the list of banned professionals ?

Bawheed.

That you need to ask that ridiculous question shows how thick you are

My opinion they are bad for the game….if you can’t see it then you are bright as a two watt bulb tbh……

Ask any on course bookmaker……bookmaker not some chancer who came into the game with a machine…..pressing two buttons….

An unbiassed view from Bookmakers?
You utter cretin

The Exchange remains the greatest innovation for discerning punters.
Naturally,that rules you out,Aceform

Spare some thought for fodder who played thinking they were getting a run……

Not knowing the result was sorted the previous evening……

Fodder like you Quixall? You claim to bet on the Exchange and yet consider the layers crooked, why would you do that, akin to sticking your fingers in a plug socket and doing it again after release from intensive care?

good to see tobymugs the forums biggest fantasist has returned..

The Result being swiped 10 seconds before the On Course Announcement

what did he say like?

CagliariG 06 Jul 26 14:47 
Fodder like you Quixall? You claim to bet on the Exchange and yet consider the layers crooked, why would you do that, akin to sticking your fingers in a plug socket and doing it again after release from intensive care?

99.9 % I’m pre as stated before cag…..

Nowadays it’s 100 % play and let it run…..

I was mainly referring to the photo,although taking it away from horse racing wouldn’t be a bad thing tbf.

Losers will always lose,Aceform with or without Exchanges(as you certainly know).
Plenty of Semi Mugs thought it was easy to make money Laying horses but soon found out that it wasn't

there was one advantage available to all and didnt need any subterfuge and cost nothing

the french racing pics on the sportsbook werwe 6 seconds ahead of the exchange. dunno why but they were. all you had to do was bet £1 and  it was the greatest freebie i ever saw

lasted until the demise of flash, whatever that is

waiting for bushwacker to dispute this

someone has scooped the lot, before the announcement was made

what absolute and utter fkn pony 😆

As I said earlier

Busyfool 06 Jul 26 15:33 
there was one advantage available to all and didnt need any subterfuge and cost nothing

the french racing pics on the sportsbook werwe 6 seconds ahead of the exchange. dunno why but they were. all you had to do was bet £1 and  it was the greatest freebie i ever saw

if sew..not sure what liquidity was,but,like when i had the live feed the money swiped late on on the winner would feed only 1 person..

And,who of us is allowed to bet on SportsBook?

does he not mean sportsbook showed the race if ewe bet a quid?

Bet on the SportsBook

I was told at the time

yes

it was a big earner for me and ive been losing ever since. liquidity was better than now, particularly at the start and with such an advantage you could have a decent bet on a sprint race if something shot out or stood still at the start

6 secs is a lot and also close finishes where some money would come in for one or the other and sometimes they got nabbed, which was golden

to this day ive never met anyone else who was doing it, which amazes me as i found it purely by chance. wasnt even looking for it

mind you, that last race at clairefontaine wasnt bad. backed winner at when clear. good ol days 

ok..post the bet.

strange place this forum,soon as you asked for proof of anything claimed they do a runner.

korr wrecked,sid. Tolo has form.

i have no form. cant post it even of i wanted to, and i dont

why do you think id invent such a trifle. to impress? in case you hadnt noticed i dontgivash1t

i had 20 quid at 3/1. hardly worth putting up

cant post it even of i wanted to

doesnt exist?

According to gordon brownie jims 3rd string 16/1 should and could have been backed

shut up you bore. never log in to notfair main site

go and have a look for yourself

Busyfool 06 Jul 26 17:13 
shut up you bore. never log in to notfair main site

go and have a look for yourself

98.76% of forum..>

wofflers/liars/fantasists

#fact 🤡

Have you just reached that conclusion?
There are some good eggs still on here but utter,non betting,Autistic  loons like Delbert stop them from posting

98.76% of forum..>

wofflers/liars/fantasists

#fact

98.76 is a rather exact statement

im in a tiny minority in many aspects

although occasional waffle does sprout when laggo

ewe cant komfirm enni claims tolo..until then you're in the 3 katta gories.

i make no claims. all true, as far as i know

you are a typical conspiracy mug and just idly dismiss everything as untrue without thinking about it

ive won way more than ewe..dat meks ewe a larger mug innit?

And i still actually go to Racetracks

wearing a string vest..

yeppe, andde oftentimesse thisse #timeanightte