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appleby can shrug his shoulder,s when their flying in but to lose to races in a few hrs that most competent jock should win on must hurt
Another 4/6 shot sunk by Mics! Another vile rant. Another bet on Buick too! If only he listened to himself!
If only he listened to me…Look at all my posts he is the weakest jockey on the planet and Appleby would be nowhere if he didn’t have rich owners? A decent trainer like Varian Burke etc would be getting the blue silks to win the big ones but I’m afraid Appleby couldn’t train a rocking horse and Buick is so weak so I told you so…
1st time poster is exactly right he will just shrug his shoulders like everthing is ok no worries…
Mad hoose not that secure tonight Irons…Let me out to watch Scotland games now I wanna go back in
Mods not tolerating the Mickwhelbe parodying.
Mics to bite the dust
Mics to bite the dust
there is a common denominator at play here and its not the jockey its the price of the horse, ie short priced fav= it must win in mics world , many of them do win and everything is fine but when one gets beat mics and co get triggered " whos fault is it ? it obviously cant be mics he has put a full 30 seconds of study into the race and come to the conclusion that the short priced fav must win its 4/6 and he has put his hard earned down, it must be the jockeys fault how dare he the useless little ...., jockey has ridden 1,000s of horses and won classics here and group races all over the world and unlikely if mics has ridden anything equine or female in his life .
Spot on Foyles. All those slating Buick but not a word out of them as long as their odds on "certainty" wins.
Foyles, it's the old betting shop situation playing out on here
There's at least 3 blokes in my local who spend 5 minutes before each race "reading the form" before dashing up to the counter on the off to back the fav regardless...every time, they cannot have a fav win and they're not on it...one of them bets in hundreds, will do a couple of grand in an afternoon if the favs don't oblige
And, of course,the jocks, trainers, are all bent if the fav doesn't oblige...one of the punters always suggests to the staff that they must have rang the track to make sure that the horse carrying his fiver at 4/9 doesn't win
There's at least 3 blokes in my local who spend 5 minutes before each race "reading the form" before dashing up to the counter on the off to back the fav regardless...every time, they cannot have a fav win and they're not on it...one of them bets in hundreds, will do a couple of grand in an afternoon if the favs don't oblige
And, of course,the jocks, trainers, are all bent if the fav doesn't oblige...one of the punters always suggests to the staff that they must have rang the track to make sure that the horse carrying his fiver at 4/9 doesn't win
reg my son manages a billz and there was a guy playing the fobts and my son was behind the counter and he noticed the guy on the fobts would look over at my son giving him daggers everytime he pressed the button or whatever it is on the roulette wheel thingy ,anyway this went on for a while and the bloke would curse and utter something out loud every time he lost on the spin ,my son was getting a bit uncomfortable as the guy seemed unhinged so my son asked if he was ok ,the bloke said i would be but you are stopping me winning , what do you mean said my son ? bloke said ive been watching you and i know you have a button under the counter that you are pressing that is conniected to all these machines and you press it to make me lose 
Foyles, I've seen/heard that in shops...sounds funny to us but, as you say,a bit unnerving if you're behind the counter...down here there's open counters, no bandit screens, I guess you've got them in London?
Foyles as much as I enjoy reading your posts and never had a bad word with you but I totally disagree with your comments surely the price has nothing to do with it if anyone bets big time on a horse just because it’s 4/6 and expects to win then he deserves to lose but the jockey has everything to do with the result…As you know I’ve got no time at all for Buick and don’t touch him but last week against Moore can’t remember the name but he had the horse won but Moore came back at him and Buick folded it was the same yesterday I watched the race and ok he went to lead but again when pressed he just hasn’t got the strength to fight back as with quite a few Buick winners they win easily at short odds you rarely see him battle on a winner. On this subject doesn’t most of us study the form I’m interested to know like this morning I read the paper form attheraces form trainers info weather etc for a good couple of hours every Saturday which I enjoy then decide what kind of bets I’ll be doing? Do most people do the same on here spend a few hours on a Saturday and Sunday and on the major meetings how much time do you schedule to sort the form out I’ll be intrested to know from Everone else what time you dedicate to actually reading the form as we know Foyles does put the time in? PS… And I still can’t pick any winners
Squealing isn't going to make Buick a better jockey.
You're obviously entitled to think Buick is a poor jockey, he probably wouldn't mind that either.
The obvious advantage for you is that he has a top retainer, will ride loads of default favs and over bet horses, simply due to the connections.
So you, and anyone who has a similar interpretation can make a bucket load of cash laying his rides. And when he folds again, you can light up a panama and count your winnings.
You're obviously entitled to think Buick is a poor jockey, he probably wouldn't mind that either.
The obvious advantage for you is that he has a top retainer, will ride loads of default favs and over bet horses, simply due to the connections.
So you, and anyone who has a similar interpretation can make a bucket load of cash laying his rides. And when he folds again, you can light up a panama and count your winnings.
Denise Coates says thanks to those that study forum but she is still a billionairess.
I agree Cider but who’s squealing…Im no big hitter £10 win or £5 each way or a few trixies patents is about my remit and I never bet odds on and I’ve never layed a horse in my natural as I haven’t got that kind of ammo…Buick is just an opinion we have our favs we have our jocks we won’t touch he seems like a nice guy and always approachable when interviewed not like Moore who does nothing for the sport. As for the Panama if I get a few winners it’s off to get a new shirt or trainers to spend the winnings on… I’m still interested to see how many of us study form for when we bet on the weekends better racing and the big meetings.
Debating a post by the certifiable Mics is a fruitless pursuit
The general consensus by a few form shrewdies(!) seems to be, if Buick wins it’s the horse, if he loses it’s his fault.
You would be up a nice few quid laying his latest rides. Something his detractors seem not to do. Probably plenty out there doing so and profiting from it.
You would be up a nice few quid laying his latest rides. Something his detractors seem not to do. Probably plenty out there doing so and profiting from it.
It's irrelevant what your stakes are. I bet a few quid sometimes, and other times have an exposure approaching £10K.
It comes with betting maturity I suppose, as I used to get upset with poor rides many moons ago. More the non jiggers than poor rides.
I've said it a few times on here, gamblers bet on what will happen, not what should happen. Gamblers only win long term (over many tests) if they have an edge. If you do feel Buick is as poor as you make out, that's an edge as I allude to, so it is an opportunity (if you're correct in your analysis).
If people who don't rate Buick back him anyway, and he is defeated due to another poor ride (in their analysis), who is accountable for that loss?
It comes with betting maturity I suppose, as I used to get upset with poor rides many moons ago. More the non jiggers than poor rides.
I've said it a few times on here, gamblers bet on what will happen, not what should happen. Gamblers only win long term (over many tests) if they have an edge. If you do feel Buick is as poor as you make out, that's an edge as I allude to, so it is an opportunity (if you're correct in your analysis).
If people who don't rate Buick back him anyway, and he is defeated due to another poor ride (in their analysis), who is accountable for that loss?
you need a good memory to remember decent priced winners/outsiders from the appleby yard ,so if the price of a horse means you cant criticise the jock you,d never be able to criticise buick,did thasdy and big john hasve 2 quid on when they publicly tore a strip of buick in the parade ring and buick does have a history of doing disappearing acts for no particular reason thats made public,other thn not fit to ride
For the haters/lovers of a Buick( is a lovely car) Tuco Salamanca 3.45 Newcastle
Kenbo…I’ve never met anyone in my life who lays horses all the people I know just have a punt…I never will put money on a horse to get beat but I guess is there much money in that game does anyone on here do it and do you have to put big money down to get a decent profit ? Honestly I just don’t know is laying profitable on a big scale
Wow!
Put it this way. You’d get 6/4 for Buick to lose on a 4/6 shot. Plus any layers would be up around 30 points over the last couple of weeks.
Put it this way. You’d get 6/4 for Buick to lose on a 4/6 shot. Plus any layers would be up around 30 points over the last couple of weeks.
So am I getting this right Kenbo…If you had £20 to get it beat you’d get £50 back but if you had £20 to win you would only get back £30+ which makes no sense to me as all the other horses in that field anyone could’ve won so that’s a massive boost! Am I reading that right
So in a 20 runner race if you lay a horse you have 19 chances of it getting beat?
yes danaho but when you start laying em they suddenly seem to find 7-10 pound well in my case they did .
DANAHO After a while you can if you follow form construct a list of POOR horses, thus making a list to PLACE lay, no big committment unless you want bigger liablities, do not let anyone tell you it cannot be done, just be patient..
Correct, Dano, on the example I gave at 4/6. If you want to lay him a 20/1 shot you’d only win £1 for your £20 stake. It all depends on the price you’re laying at.
When's the system kick in? Been backing Norway Bill since this thread went up and I'm doing my conkers!
he wanted that one very strong on believe it and you can william 
Another. Bill does okay on non-appleby horses atm
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