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Europe's richest race, the Qatar Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe, will be opened to geldings for the first time in 2027, after board members at France Galop voted to remove restrictions on Monday.

France will need to request a change in the entry conditions at a full meeting of the European Pattern Committee but it seems extremely unlikely that any of the other major European nations will object to a measure which brings France's most important race into line with theirs.

The Arc has become increasingly isolated in recent years among major all-aged Group 1s in Europe that are restricted to colts, fillies and mares, with the Aga Khan Studs Prix Jacques le Marois the only other outlier in the French Pattern following the opening of the Prix du Moulin to geldings in 2020.

With entries for this year's race at Longchamp on October 4 already having closed last month, there will be no change to the conditions until 2027.

But French online racing daily Jour de Galop reported the France Galop board's decision.

The case for allowing geldings to run in the Arc has returned to the agenda in the last couple of years following the exploits of Goliath and Calandagan – the latter ending 2025 as the Longines World's Best Racehorse – with both horses trained in Chantilly by Francis Graffard, but denied the option of running in France's biggest race having already been gelded.

Calandagan's world champion campaign featured runs in Dubai, Britain, and Japan as well as a solitary home appearance in the Grand Prix de Saint-Cloud, while Godolphin's Rebel's Romance is another globetrotting gelding, having won at the top level in Dubai, Hong Kong, the US and Germany.

Mickael Barzalona takes a look at the replay as Calandagan is led back in
Calandagan could be eligible to run in the 2027 Arc, by which time he will be a six-year-old (Edward Whitaker)

Group 1s for two- and three-year-olds have traditionally been restricted to colts and fillies in Europe as they are designated as races for selection of the best future breeding stock.

While the King George VI and Queen Elizabeth Stakes, as well as both the British and Irish Champion Stakes, are open to geldings, France Galop has always maintained that the Arc and the Jacques le Marois are important races for selection as well.

There is robust debate across the training and veterinary community as to the potential physical and psychological advantages conferred on a gelded male, while both elected members of the board and France Galop officials have been deeply divided on the subject of whether to open the Arc up to geldings.
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Report A_T June 23, 2026 1:14 PM BST
bad decision. part of the skill of training is to prepare an entire horse to win top races.
Report ashleigh June 23, 2026 1:36 PM BST
Agreed, The English Derby next.Crazy
Report salmon spray June 23, 2026 1:40 PM BST
Disgraceful decision.
Report penzance June 23, 2026 2:02 PM BST
Load of B0ll0X.
Report impossible123 June 23, 2026 2:39 PM BST
Good! I'd like to see the best horse running in the race, and possibly winning. There should not be any negative discrimination in horseracing. A colt cannot run in a fillies' only race similar to men cannot compete against women given the biological and physical differences that affect their performances.

See you in 2027 ARC Calandagan.
Report stewarts rise June 23, 2026 4:02 PM BST
Will this lead to more 3 yos being whisked off to stud rather than potentially running against bulked up  geldings in the following years Arc?
  If owners have a horse they think can potentially win an Arc (probably the most prestigious race in Europe), perhaps they shouldn't be so quick to remove the kn@ckers. Removing the kn@ckers obviously concentrates a horses mind on running and calms them down but in a way you could say gives them an unfair advantage anyway.
Report salmon spray June 23, 2026 4:12 PM BST
Exactly.
Gelding just about everything is just lazy.
Report BlueBauble June 23, 2026 5:57 PM BST
Disgraceful decision.
Report formoftheace June 23, 2026 6:25 PM BST
Anything goes nowadays….dreadful scenes…..
Report Delashay June 23, 2026 6:45 PM BST
Maddy Playle, reporter

“The likes of Cirrus Des Aigles, Goliath and Calandagan would have added more depth and intrigue to the field in recent years and ensured that any colt or filly capable of beating them was truly up to scratch…l”


Is that the same Calandgan that hated the soft at Epsom in June? Excited

Goliath also won his biggest race on summer ground at Ascot.

Would Graffard run all 3 including last years winner against eachother? I very much doubt it.
Report Delashay June 23, 2026 6:49 PM BST
As a race itself, it not that great a spectacle. The name sounds good but there’s far better races throughout the season.
Report Delashay June 23, 2026 6:53 PM BST
The irony for those arguing against is that Frankels claim to 10f fame was beating an aged soft ground specialist in Cirrus.

So yes geldings should be able to run.

And Aiden not more than one! Laugh
Report BlueBauble June 23, 2026 7:11 PM BST
My argument against is the gelding is gelded in order to make the horse better. He is no longer a colt. A complete horse. Those are the rules. He was deemed not to be good enough as a colt and therefore had him gelded. Gaining an advantage. To change the rules is to take the exclusivity and certain amount of prestige out of it. I'm no Frankel sycophant. Sea the stars had a better career than Frankel. 8,10,12 furlong group ones in a classic year we will likely to never see again. We can speculate what might have happened; but that's it, it is speculation. What isn't speculation and this is glossed over by the Frankel fandom is that sea the stars won over all the traditionally prestigious distances and the biggest races on offer as a 3 year old. Swap the ownership and trainers of both horses and this question would never arise in the first place.
Report Delashay June 23, 2026 7:39 PM BST
It’s interesting the points that you make and I’m torn between two here. Why? Because I like tradition. That gives us a chance to compare over the years.

What I do wonder is what you say about gaining an advantage.

Is it that clear? Only 3 horses are mentioned on the post so that doesn’t scream statistically that they are so.

Think of in terms of doping, that’s deffo gaining an advantage, it is too for colts over jumps with no tackle to get caught in the birch!

If it wasn’t they’d not be gelded and go jumping, so does it work in reverse on the flat?
Report Delashay June 23, 2026 7:40 PM BST
P.s. BB who at this stage do you say not to be on for Arc?! I know it’s a long way out but you must be scanning! GrinWink
Report A_T June 23, 2026 8:34 PM BST
Andre Fabre doesn't like it. Also says at present it's a proposal but it sounded definite to me.
Report BlueBauble June 23, 2026 9:26 PM BST
Good evening Del. Hope you're well. In my opinion the gelded horse gains an advantage over the colts. In the sense that connections have the horse gelded to help him unlock ability that he cant use had he be intact thereby in contravene to the current rules. This is a thoroughbred industry where as we all know the breeding and bloodstock is of the utmost importance. If the horse isn't good enough without being gelded then such is life. The horse isn't good enough. The arc is considered the ultimate prize on the flat. The most prestigious. I think it would be unfair to the colts to allow geldings in. Its too accomdating when theres no need to be. Minnie hauk is too short. Daryz and thundering on are rightly at the top. Other unexposed and potential improvers at better prices. Minnie hauk would be my lay at the moment but I don't get involved antepost.
Report Delashay June 23, 2026 10:05 PM BST
Thank you BB appreciate you sharing your views and feedback about the race looking forwards. I agree in that it shouldn’t be changed for the reasons that you’ve given but also there are other big prizes around the world to be won. My favourite trainers from the past were those who knew this and would travel their horses.
The Arc should be what it’s set out to be, the end of season championship race for the classic generation vs their elders.

My eye is on the potential improvers,
Report howard June 24, 2026 2:42 PM BST
Trouble is plenty of the elders ( colts ) go to stud end of 3-y-o season. So often the 3-y-o's are not taking on the best from the previous season.
Report impossible123 June 24, 2026 3:22 PM BST
The present ARC is very different from those won by Dancing Brave, Montjeu or Golden Horn where 3yr old star colts (not the mediocres from AOB / Coolmore) had run over 12f or former Derby winners. I think the inclusion of gelding for this race is the correct decision by the French Horesracing Authority.

This race should be for the best of all, not merely colts and fillies.
Report howard June 24, 2026 3:26 PM BST
Yes it's not a classic.  KG  geldings why not the Arc.
Report differentdrum June 26, 2026 10:38 AM BST
The King George has become a nothing race.

As if there hasn't been a decent gelding before Calandagan, and there has barely been a discussion. More about the new clamour for talking points, and the lack of top class horses over quite a period of time. We end up with change for change sake. A poor decision.
Report impossible123 June 26, 2026 11:30 AM BST
I do not think there'll be another Frankel or Dancing Brave in my lifetime. I do not think one will come from AOB/Coolmore either. The once lauded Gp 1 races eg Epsom Derby, King George, The Eclipse and The ARC have lost their prestige, importance, significance, gravitas and value of the past.
Report formoftheace June 26, 2026 11:32 AM BST
Coolmore don’t have geldings they don’t do sport tbh…..probably see trophies in the cabinet as clutter tbh….

££££££££……..$$$$$$$$$$$$$………€€€€€€€€€€€€ …..
Report formoftheace June 26, 2026 11:41 AM BST
Dreadful thing greed and power tbh…..plastic people imv…..
Report Delashay June 26, 2026 4:04 PM BST
Not all partners happy with this decision as there was no discussion or debate.
Report duffy June 26, 2026 4:24 PM BST
If one of the reasons is about the gelding being able to realize its ability it can't harness as a colt then why are artificial aids like blinkers/visors already allowed, as those aids are supposed to help the horse concentrate,the situation therefore already exists whereby horses are artificially helped which can be viewed as unfair to the colts that can deal with proceedings mentally all on their own.
Report BlueBauble June 26, 2026 4:46 PM BST
For the simple reason Duffy that these artificial aids can be removed, kept on or taken off. I'm no veterinarian but I would go out on a limb here and say that it might not be as easy to remove a colts testes and switch intermittently between colt and gelding. The geldings have the  coronation cup exclusive to them, colts and geldings the king George. The arc should always be kept to colts due to the reasoning in this post and my previous posts on this thread. Quite frankly it's tedious and frustrating that this should even need explaining.
Report duffy June 26, 2026 4:53 PM BST
Thanks for your efforts in persevering through the tedium, it's appreciated, I wouldn't be so bothered myself, the classic races are all protected and if connections are bothered they can simply not run, there is also the possibility of running, winning and enhancing its breeding career by beating one of those turbo charged geldings.
Report impossible123 June 26, 2026 5:11 PM BST
Do not forget the best horses must be allowed to run in any Group race with the exception of a colt running in a filly race. The breeding must take a backseat, regardless.

I'm very surprised AOB does not concur with the French Horseracing Authority. I can only think of "self-interest" - nothing else.
Report BlueBauble June 26, 2026 5:36 PM BST
"The breeding must take a backseat, regardless" for goodness sake.
Report duffy June 26, 2026 5:46 PM BST
The irony isn't lost on me that in all the kerfuffle about colts and geldings, in more than a decade most of the renewals are won by females, perhaps if more of the colts had their tackle removed they might be able to focus and be able to put in a better performance on the day.Cool
Report brandyontherocks June 26, 2026 8:12 PM BST
Gelding a well bred colt would always be the last resort.

There are not many examples of geldings dominating their entire counterparts.

I like the decision and do not see the negatives.
Report strontium June 26, 2026 11:29 PM BST
Agree, Brandy.

Timeform posted some interesting thoughts about this. One is that the Eclipse has been open to geldings for 40 years, but no gelding has ever won, and the King George wasn't won by a gelding until 2024.
Report the old nanny ;-) June 27, 2026 12:25 AM BST
will geldings have to carry a pound or two Extra ?
Report Delashay June 29, 2026 11:46 AM BST
If 2026 is to be the last running of the Arc without geldings, Magnier and the Coolmore team have a great chance of winning it with three of the top four in the betting with P.


Last year's winner Daryz is 7-2 favourite with the firm, but next in the betting is the Coolmore-owned filly Minnie Hauk at 8-1 followed by Constitution River and Diamond Necklace at 10-1.

Hmmmm Confused
Report Delashay June 29, 2026 11:47 AM BST
Anyone know who Nick Watts has put up yesterday @ 20/1 ??
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