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Dear Delbert,
FOYDC. Thanks,David |
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I think you are in for a long wait. If any of them were remotely honest they could call out virtually everyone in the game, but instead they all choose to call out nobody. It's called cheerleading, and it's all they do, day in, day out. A pitiful state of affairs that will never change.
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It's a job for them,DD,nothing else
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Exactly uptheirons
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TBar the odd one or two the horseracing journos and pundits are in the pockets of bookies. Their present and main aim is to promote betting - sometimes disingenuously - to generate revenue / profit for their paymasters ie the bookies. Each one of them would suggest / advise / tip differing selection in a race. They are no longer upright professionals, and independent.
The Derby is not what it was before because the horseracing generation and punters are on the wane. This category is dying out due to advancing age and the present business strategy of bookies eg gilding their golden egg ie fobt players, and culling horseracing punters with restriction and / closure of recreational betting accounts. The progressive and increasing domination of The Derby by AOB / Coolmore has rendered The Derby a non-competitive event thus straggling the antepost market. The abundance of fire power and options of AOB / Coolmore charges; the multiple entries of their charges and most detrimental of all to punters is the regular and repeated last minute switcheroos of principal runners. The competition of other sports on Saturday eg football, rugby, cricket, etc, on pay-per-view tv, costs to racegoers and the quality of the races at the Epsom Derby are also others reasons Epsom Derby is no longer an iconic event. |
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Why do you repeat your boring drivel on a daily basis, you morn? |
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Perhaps because implausible is a moron,saxon
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Diff I agree and I’m aware that there would be no response and that’s it’s also a job. A job not done well and I question why?
I wanted to make the point however as when he said punters infuriate him and then said Aiden always is honest that got me and I wanted to call it out. |
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Aidan O'Brien plots Derby rematch with Christmas Day to face a 'different' Benvenuto Cellini - and says Constitution River may skip Eclipse
David Jennings Deputy Ireland editor Published on 9 June 2026inIreland Last updated 14:37, 9 June 2026 He’s out peddling more crud today! ![]() |
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So now we’ll see him actually trying!
![]() penzance • June 8, 2026 1:41 PM BST Can anyone on here see Benvenuto Cellini over turning the form with the Epsom 1ST 3 if they meet again,I can't myself.3/1 looks short to me. Delashay • June 8, 2026 2:09 PM BST It wasn’t given a hard time and we’ve been here before, last year. The horse made the market since it won at Chester. He’d been 2/1 since then. Plenty of time to lay it. Then the money came for the winner who was ridden to win. Yes I can see the result changed, on different ground, but mainly tactics. Let’s not forget that Ben wasn’t even rated the top horse in the race, yet was deemed the winner by many without even running. Also the horse only had the one run, these stayers often prefer two races in their legs, as we see from Graffard wanting to take in Epsom then Saint Cloud before the KG. |
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Jennings asked me to tell you to F/O,Delbert and stick to your aftertiming
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'Delashay', has he responded to you?
That's what's wrong with the racing paper. Its journos are devoid of rationale and independence. The ability to think logically and sensibly is long gone; contents to fill paper space and to please their paymasters ie the bookies are paramount regardless. I do not think Christmas Day and Ben will do battle. Only one will and most probably Ben unless the heavens intervene big time. If Ben wins the Irish Derby Christmas Day could do The Arc given the probable prevailing ground in 1st week of Oct in France. But, Ben will not. He's too valuable as a stallion. I think he'll be retired too post 2025 / 2026 season. |
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Of course he hasn’t Impossible and I don’t expect him to!
I agree with what you say about the journalists and newspaper. As shown just yesterday a poster said that 3/1 looks short. It does to turn around all those lengths! So you have to ask why? Maltese Cross is going to the GPDParis so the race needs someone to give it some credibility. James Braddock will be there but there’s not a lot from Epsom that punters would fancy so maybe Christmas Day will show? All fun and games! |
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The quote before the Derby
Trainer's view Aidan O'Brien: "Everything has gone well since Chester. He's drawn nicely there on the outside so we think it's fine. He's a big, high-cruiser and we always thought Epsom wouldn't be a problem to him." I don’t think that they felt he’d ever like the track, then the rain came. That’s why he’s saying there’ll be a different horse at the Curragh. |
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If memory serves did Charlie Appleby not withdraw a principal Derby runner on the day when the heavens opened? But, AOB ran the beast anyway on atrocious ground. Smart or plain delusional?
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'It’s a pity he never really got to fulfil that early potential' - The Lion In Winter sustains fatal injury on gallops
David Jennings Deputy Ireland editor Published on 10 June 2026inIreland Last updated 19:36, 10 June 2026 The Lion In Winter has died after sustaining a fracture on the gallops at Ballydoyle. Another amateurish piece of journalism here, no mention of exactly when this fatal injury was sustained by the poor horse. The news came out in the evening after the decs had been made that morning for the Queen Anne. https://www.racingpost.com/news/ireland/its-a-pity-he-never-really-got-to-fulfil-that-early-potential-the-lion-in-winter-sustains-fatal-injury-on-gallops-aJkSM0G0AS8V/ |
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If Jennings is similar to the rest of the current crop of Irish sports journos he'd be more interested in Palestine than actual sports writing.
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Ahh righto ho a flag waver and kneecap fan probably!
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It’s very sad for the horse and I hoped that we’d see more from him this year.
ROSS BRIERLEY https://www.racingpost.com/news/features/series/this-horse-is-a-monster-and-the-closest-thing-ive-got-to-a-royal-ascot-banker-a2WuI0S8X0Y5/ Had put him up in this article the other day, not that you can see that now! He’d said that he thought that he’d done too much on the front end at Newbury. |
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impossible123 • June 9, 2026 3:56 PM BST
If memory serves did Charlie Appleby not withdraw a principal Derby runner on the day when the heavens opened? But, AOB ran the beast anyway on atrocious ground. Smart or plain delusional? Mickaël Barzalona explained: "The track was much too soft for him and he didn’t manage to get out of it." Then his trainer added: "I have never seen him breathe so much after a race. The ground was too difficult. I went around the track at the end of the morning, but the track has become much softer since then. I made a mistake by running it. He hated the terrain and never could keep up. I hope he’ll come back in good shape and after a outing in the Grand Prix of Saint-Cloud, we will return (to Ascot) for the King George.” When the trainer says that it might make people wonder why the fav was run when he’d flopped on deep going at Doncaster. |
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I also thought the statement about The Lion in Winter was odd. No details about what happened or what the vets said. Just accept it and move on. They have taken decisions which seem puzzling to an outsider - sending Derby winners to become NH stallions and unbelievably getting rid of an Epsom Derby winner by Galileo (Serpentine). Still, what do we know.
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As you say Dr we’re just meant to accept and move on.
The timing of it is really off for me, after the decs had been made for the Queen Anne. I’m no expert on the breeding side of things but I noticed in the jumps lots of 1m 4f French stayers are used as NH sires. They just aren’t attractive for breeding. It could be bad news for the Derby if it remains at this distance. Despite that Constitution River is only rated a lb above Christmas Day. |
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Information only leaking out when forced - declarations. That's never happened before has it? Trainers either give information when forced by declarations, or asked by the media, so a lot of the time you are relying on half-wits to dig out anything. It's another useless aspect of the sport.
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As for Ross Brierley amiable cheerleading presenter, but punter, no thanks. Bores you to death with stats.
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It's another useless aspect of the sport.
Agree and it’s the polar opposite to the age that we’re living in. I couldn’t make a report like this myself for any amount of money. I have no view on him other than he seems an enthusiastic presenter on the few clips that I’ve seen. |
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The problem with spouting stats (including sectionals which as become the 'clever' analysis) is they are out there - someone else will know so where is the edge? The only thing that can set you aside is your own intuition.
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Sectionals have become the clever analysis as you say, they don’t always prove to be of use.
When I got into racing I remember Big Mac taking out his scraps of paper and giving the stats for next race. That I look at as you know but we can’t follow blind. Agree about intuition or following one’s gut. Even though I post quotes I try to remain neutral to what I think and what’s said. There’s nothing worse than not following what feel. |
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*you
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Are you looking forwards to Ascot?
Any others doing so? |
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Yes, looking forward to it, primarily because it's better than the dirge we get served up day in day out. It's a totally different kettle of fish punting wise to Cheltenham. Getting involved ante-post is that much more difficult. The markets are not really established. There is much less information on offer. Then you have the annual lottery of the draw, and the idiot jocks to contend with, hence I only make a profit on the week about 30% of the time. Cheltenham would be far more than double that. If I don't land a big priced winner I will be in trouble, and with the big field sizes crossbars, can be really frustrating. I will do my best to avoid backing too many shorties. My only ante-post darts so far are on the Commonwealth Cup.
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Cheers & your thoughts on the quality are the same as mine. The draw means I won’t be playing much ap and the jock factor as you’ve said.
The Commonwealth is a race that has me looking! ![]() It’ll be a wonder what the ground will be? GL. |
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Going currently on the quick side, and expected to be drier/warmer next week, so not looking at soft ground horses.
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Thanks good to know.
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DD I read earlier they're watering at Ascot. Also read they're expecting rain today/tomorrow. Hopefully no false ground ahead causing chaos and massive draw bias.
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Nothing would surprise me,MJK
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I think whatever they do, it would be a miracle if one side is favoured for the whole week. Expect the unexpected. I wouldn't mind if they doctored to get genuine good ground. As a punter I find very quick ground much more difficult than soft ground. Plenty of horses that cope with good ground won't let themselves down on quicker. The least amount of ready made excuses there are the better.
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It is the Summer,DD.
People are entitled to expect GTF Ground if Nature dictates it. It's hardly as if they are three mile Chasers,is it |
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I'm most looking forward to seeing Bow Echo again. I hope he puts in another scintillating performance and blows away the opposition. This is badly needed as the winners from AOB are usually mediocre in comparison to previous Royal Ascot winners.
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Ben is still in the King Edward VII at Royal Ascot next friday along with 3 other stablemates. The talk a few days ago about a different Ben showing up at The Curragh for the Irish Derby seemed to have been lost on AOB.
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