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It seems that coke is everywhere in society now.
What is the issue with what a jockey does in their downtime if they aren't riding high ?
Except for the fact it's illegal is it any worse than a jockey drinking a glass of wine ?
Surely the way forward would be to treat it the same way as the police do and have a maximum level for safe driving/ riding ?
What is the issue with what a jockey does in their downtime if they aren't riding high ?
Except for the fact it's illegal is it any worse than a jockey drinking a glass of wine ?
Surely the way forward would be to treat it the same way as the police do and have a maximum level for safe driving/ riding ?
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Drunk drivers should face a lifetime ban,riding horses under the influence knowing that punters are following with their hard earned should also face a lifetime ban…..
Before spouting and squawking trying to defend think of the innocent people wiped out by ignorant idiots boozing and driving….
Before spouting and squawking trying to defend think of the innocent people wiped out by ignorant idiots boozing and driving….
There’s loads of them puffing ‘erb and driving these days.
I always thought that the punishments for finding class A in jocks was laughable, look at Detori and Fallon got the close season off as a ban then we’re back for new. A joke.
I always thought that the punishments for finding class A in jocks was laughable, look at Detori and Fallon got the close season off as a ban then we’re back for new. A joke.
Weal leadership in all walks breeds more undesirable types…..
We’re lucky that we’re not tested as they are in the US because it’s everywhere as said.
Not so sure it’s that far from H though I guess you mean because an innocent toot is ok but the rock form is deadly so it’s how it’s taken.
Not so sure it’s that far from H though I guess you mean because an innocent toot is ok but the rock form is deadly so it’s how it’s taken.
You inject heroin into your system and (supposedly) it’s the best feeling you will ever have. They are forever chasing that. Most to the extent where’d they’d sell everything they’ve got for another hit. They’d then go on to robbing houses to fund it.
A line of coke is a line of coke. Pretty much the same every time, unless it’s been cut and cut.
A line of coke is a line of coke. Pretty much the same every time, unless it’s been cut and cut.
As said above Ken you don’t cluck like that (being on the rocks is totally different and they chase that) but ask the bird from Eastenders who lost part of her nose if a little toot is ok?
Some people can’t stop at anything (just the one or a bit) , whether it’s drink or whatever, fair play to those who can.
Yes, I would suggest H is addictive, and alcohol can be for some.
Most drugs, including nicotine are habitual, as is overeating imo.
Not to say some habits are very difficult to break
Most drugs, including nicotine are habitual, as is overeating imo.
Not to say some habits are very difficult to break
I worked with a plumber who’d chase it, by 4 every day he had to go and get his next. He’d do it in lofts, peoples garages on fire escapes. Same age but was known as the old man because of what it did.
It’s not know as chasing the dragon for nothing, smoking or injecting. Rack is the same you see it in the eyes. The soul vanishes.
Thankfully I can control my gambling habit!
It’s not know as chasing the dragon for nothing, smoking or injecting. Rack is the same you see it in the eyes. The soul vanishes.
Thankfully I can control my gambling habit!
Drink was my problem. I took loads of drugs recreationally but never got hooked on them like alcohol. If I had loads of money in my pocket it would be a bag of coke. If didn’t then it would be a bag of speed!
It’s done for many a man Ken and is the biggest killer without doubt. My friend in Art college came from Sweden and he described buying alcohol as like going to a pharmacy there. Plus the price was so expensive.
So when he came here he went mad and on a field trip to Eastern Europe he went extra mad! You could buy a pint for 10p back then, lashed on a quid!
With the price rises in booze here I wonder if we’re following suit? Price it so it’s out of reach?
Ahh Billy nasty stuff!
So when he came here he went mad and on a field trip to Eastern Europe he went extra mad! You could buy a pint for 10p back then, lashed on a quid!
With the price rises in booze here I wonder if we’re following suit? Price it so it’s out of reach?
Ahh Billy nasty stuff!
When i worked out of any oil refinery Kenbo they did random drug testing with instant dismissal for any negative results….
I remember one individual getting told getting out of his car the nurse was in doing drug and alcohol….he got back into his car…caught on camera and sacked….union told him he was on his own…..
No mercy !
I remember one individual getting told getting out of his car the nurse was in doing drug and alcohol….he got back into his car…caught on camera and sacked….union told him he was on his own…..
No mercy !
An endless list of innocent victims six feet under and through the crem because of selfishness of others…..
The circus entertainer and the deep dark individual were treated like royalty on return from a ban……racing journalists slopped over them like war heroes….
Dreadful scenes imv.
Dreadful scenes imv.
It is endemic in Society.
It is also an appetite suppressant (Jockeys).
No amount of ranting on here from the failed Tanker Driver will make the slightest difference to the situation.
It is also an appetite suppressant (Jockeys).
No amount of ranting on here from the failed Tanker Driver will make the slightest difference to the situation.
I certainly wouldn’t excuse it but living in today’s lawless dangerous landfill UK i could understand,especially defenceless females.
The white socks wearing individual is like the bad smell,always lingering…
The white socks wearing individual is like the bad smell,always lingering…
I am a realist and you are an empty vessel who has an opinion on everything and I forgot to say that you are a bet editor as well.
Loads of good quality racing and the Tanker Loser is on here all day ranting
Loads of good quality racing and the Tanker Loser is on here all day ranting
White socks accusing someone of being on here ……deary me it’s everywhere like a rash….
May 23, 2026 -- 11:46AM, s.kenbo wrote:
Drink was my problem. I took loads of drugs recreationally but never got hooked on them like alcohol. If I had loads of money in my pocket it would be a bag of coke. If didn’t then it would be a bag of speed!
Probably why you talk so much rubbish ! I will make allowances for you from now on , i did not know .
Cheers, Jinxy. If a grade A mug like yourself can make allowances me then there is hope for mankind after all!
Drink has addled what is left of your brain cells,Kembo
false comparison between drugs and drink
sharing a bottle of something good with friends is convivial, and fun and harmless. civilised folk the world over do it, and its part of family life in france, germany etc to have a glass with your kids, from 14 onwards
having a nice drink is not a 'high' like drugs are. its ususally a mildly pleasing sensation, although of course some get carried away. ive been carried away by medics a few times
sniffing rat poison off a kahzi seat that burns a hole in your bugle is squalid and the opposite of being social. gurning and boring everyone within earshot to distraction makes drug users tiresome. en masse its a shouting match
and ive tried the lot. acid was me fave, but no longer fashionable, despite being so cheap. crack was weird but i didnt then think i must do that as much as possible. i suspect junkies and alkies are mentally defective and seek to hide from their demons
sharing a bottle of something good with friends is convivial, and fun and harmless. civilised folk the world over do it, and its part of family life in france, germany etc to have a glass with your kids, from 14 onwards
having a nice drink is not a 'high' like drugs are. its ususally a mildly pleasing sensation, although of course some get carried away. ive been carried away by medics a few times
sniffing rat poison off a kahzi seat that burns a hole in your bugle is squalid and the opposite of being social. gurning and boring everyone within earshot to distraction makes drug users tiresome. en masse its a shouting match
and ive tried the lot. acid was me fave, but no longer fashionable, despite being so cheap. crack was weird but i didnt then think i must do that as much as possible. i suspect junkies and alkies are mentally defective and seek to hide from their demons
Coke is quite common even in moderate social circles these days..needn't be an issue anymore than alcohol that would never be legal if 'new' in this era..
in terms of jockeys, it's potentially performance enhancing (as well as illegal) so inevitably if you test positive - you're in trouble..
dont know what a 'moderate' social circle is
alcohol is not a drug. its a by-product of something humans have enjoyed and refined to a pinnacle. never have we had as much choice and quality
i have known loadsa cokeheads but no longer. they dont survive long and can fro, they are so solipsistic. and they were boring before they had the gear. few learned interesting or amusing people would use it. it diminishes their appeal and undermines their credibility
cokeheads soon get frozen out of civilised circles, moderate or otherwise. likewise, weed smokers
alcohol is not a drug. its a by-product of something humans have enjoyed and refined to a pinnacle. never have we had as much choice and quality
i have known loadsa cokeheads but no longer. they dont survive long and can fro, they are so solipsistic. and they were boring before they had the gear. few learned interesting or amusing people would use it. it diminishes their appeal and undermines their credibility
cokeheads soon get frozen out of civilised circles, moderate or otherwise. likewise, weed smokers
If Acid and Mushys were legallised the world would be a totll different place.
dont know what a 'moderate' social circle is... I dare say you don't..
none the less it's commonly used without issue in circles that don't include the failed parts of society.. people that use it for a recreational high..
in terms of natural products...opium poppies are very natural and cocaine is derived from the cocoa plant..
none the less it's commonly used without issue in circles that don't include the failed parts of society.. people that use it for a recreational high..
in terms of natural products...opium poppies are very natural and cocaine is derived from the cocoa plant..
1830 24 May 26 22:26
If Acid and Mushys were legallised the world would be a totll different place.
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It certainly is when you have em. Not sure you ever fully return to earth though,
you can't unsee what you've seen, unfeel what you've felt.
If Acid and Mushys were legallised the world would be a totll different place.
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It certainly is when you have em. Not sure you ever fully return to earth though,
you can't unsee what you've seen, unfeel what you've felt.
May 23, 2026 -- 10:41AM, formoftheace wrote:
Drunk drivers should face a lifetime ban,riding horses under the influence knowing that punters are following with their hard earned should also face a lifetime ban…..Before spouting and squawking trying to defend think of the innocent people wiped out by ignorant idiots boozing and driving….
them caught using phones whilst driving should lose their licence for 10 years, alarming rate of people using them
Only the silly people drive and use the mobile….no mercy,stop at the next available,it’s easy……
Slurry type still drive with the thing on the lug…….thickos……or texting……lifetime,get the bus you fool….
When will people ever learn ?!
You drug the horse, not the jockey.
FFS.
You drug the horse, not the jockey.
FFS.
Here’s a dilemma.
Driver has 4 pints,drives home 1 mile,concentrates ,drives at 28 mph safely.
Child runs out from parked car ,no chance of stopping ,kills child.
Marathon runner on his way home from half marathon,eating his banana,driving at 33mph,
Thinking about the days race,kid crossing properly over road,but driver reacts slower,kills child.
One gets off free the other gets 10 years.
Each case as to be assessed on its merit.
Driver has 4 pints,drives home 1 mile,concentrates ,drives at 28 mph safely.
Child runs out from parked car ,no chance of stopping ,kills child.
Marathon runner on his way home from half marathon,eating his banana,driving at 33mph,
Thinking about the days race,kid crossing properly over road,but driver reacts slower,kills child.
One gets off free the other gets 10 years.
Each case as to be assessed on its merit.
Everyone should take MDMA once.......You will love everyone, which is never a bad thing, i think.
oh, and much less dangerous than that massive killer drug, alcohol..
oh, and much less dangerous than that massive killer drug, alcohol..
When they start to issue the lifetime ban the silly people will probably take note…..
Why should we innocent be on the receiving end of manure tanked up behind a wheel at high speed ?
Why should we innocent be on the receiving end of manure tanked up behind a wheel at high speed ?
Hard to imagine a clean living decent rider up against a bag of manure in a race at speed…..
Freddie was on the receiving end…..
Anyone who tries to defend are p!ss weak or of same mould…..
Freddie was on the receiving end…..
Anyone who tries to defend are p!ss weak or of same mould…..
alcohol isnt a drug. its enjoyed worlwide and is a joy to share with others and very social. too much of anything can be fatal and its a bogus comparison
i took mdma a lot more than once and its anti-social, like all drugs. being a mong isnt attractive or interesting although getting your kit off is a handy effect on some users
i took mdma a lot more than once and its anti-social, like all drugs. being a mong isnt attractive or interesting although getting your kit off is a handy effect on some users
It deffo is a drug. I used to get leathered and locked up. I use it quite sparingly these days, and
being in the vicinity of a bunch of loud (they're nearly all loud) drunks is no fun at all.
being in the vicinity of a bunch of loud (they're nearly all loud) drunks is no fun at all.
Some strange views on here, Alc is most deffo a drug and not as social as Busy says. It also mongs people and look at the state of the race goers at Aintree come the end of the day!
Saddo my mates called what you described about CID as getting off the train! It’s true once you experienced, life is never the same.
Shrooms are better but harder to dose so I’ve been told!
Saddo my mates called what you described about CID as getting off the train! It’s true once you experienced, life is never the same.
Shrooms are better but harder to dose so I’ve been told!
I wrote on here last year of how Grace Slick of Jefferson Airplane was going to spike Richard Nixon with CId when they visited the White House!
She decided not to at the last moment.
She decided not to at the last moment.
They taste disgusting also, we used to make tea or hot chocolate with em,
and remove the tiny maggots that sometimes popped out.
Nothing changes behaviour negatively quicker than alcohol imo, maybe smack but I've
never tried it. If alcohol was invented today it wouldn't get legalised.
and remove the tiny maggots that sometimes popped out
.Nothing changes behaviour negatively quicker than alcohol imo, maybe smack but I've
never tried it. If alcohol was invented today it wouldn't get legalised.
Alc is roulette you don’t know how it’s going to affect different people. Some are lucky and can drink or two and leave it there.
True they do taste rank, like eating dried bark!
True they do taste rank, like eating dried bark!
it is not. its a carefully curated natural product that is enjoyed by civilised people. if you behave like an idiot thats an indictment of yourself and the company you keep
i too got locked up regularly due to excessive consumption and have a sheaf of convictions for d&d but that was 30 years ago
oiks are a british speciality and i dont go anywhere they might be found
i too got locked up regularly due to excessive consumption and have a sheaf of convictions for d&d but that was 30 years ago
oiks are a british speciality and i dont go anywhere they might be found
civilised people
Sounds like they only drink wine and never Stella!
Rose tinted glasses I think.
Sounds like they only drink wine and never Stella!
Rose tinted glasses I think.
rubbish. its not like you invent it. its been around for ever. its more a behavioual and civilisation problem. and we have it biggo
ive been in germany and czechia and the whole town was in the square and lagging drunk with not a sense of menace at all. here it would be carange. different mentality. in these civilised gaffs drink is quality-controlled and hence classed as food. purtiy laws dont permit the sale of the carp we guzzle, although that has changed in recent years, thank allah
craft beer drinkers generally dont cause trouble, and i have that from the horses gob, my mate mitolo who has 7 of the best battlecruisers and doesnt sell peroni, stella, guinness, etc
ive been in germany and czechia and the whole town was in the square and lagging drunk with not a sense of menace at all. here it would be carange. different mentality. in these civilised gaffs drink is quality-controlled and hence classed as food. purtiy laws dont permit the sale of the carp we guzzle, although that has changed in recent years, thank allah
craft beer drinkers generally dont cause trouble, and i have that from the horses gob, my mate mitolo who has 7 of the best battlecruisers and doesnt sell peroni, stella, guinness, etc
You’re normally pretty smart with what you post, Mitolo, but stop saying alcohol isn’t a drug when every man and their dog knows it is.
People who like to drink craft beer aren’t gonna be hell raisers anyway. Give them eight pints of Wife Beater and they’d probably still be decent fellas.
People who like to drink craft beer aren’t gonna be hell raisers anyway. Give them eight pints of Wife Beater and they’d probably still be decent fellas.
Hallucinogenic drugs came first. Archaeological evidence shows humans using psychedelic plants and fungi (like peyote and magic mushrooms) as early as 8,600 to 14,000 BCE. In contrast, the earliest evidence of fermented alcohol (such as wine and beer) dates back to roughly 7,000 to 6,000 BCE.
Alcohol content is measurable, any impurities won't change it's effect. I agree with Busyfool about behaviour.
They lowered the alcohol content of Stella ( and most popular beers) here, to little effect. I think Stella is 5.2
on the continent and 4.6 here. I have pale ales in my fridge varying from 5.2 to 7.4, I never have more than 2.
Alcohol content is measurable, any impurities won't change it's effect. I agree with Busyfool about behaviour.
They lowered the alcohol content of Stella ( and most popular beers) here, to little effect. I think Stella is 5.2
on the continent and 4.6 here. I have pale ales in my fridge varying from 5.2 to 7.4, I never have more than 2.
Busyfool • May 27, 2026 4:49 PM BST
it is not. its a carefully curated natural product that is enjoyed by civilised people
Opium is cultivated and in its natural form is the purest, it was enjoyed by civilised people with a very old culture.
it is not. its a carefully curated natural product that is enjoyed by civilised people
Opium is cultivated and in its natural form is the purest, it was enjoyed by civilised people with a very old culture.
New synthetic drugs are a game changer, the yanks have a huge fentanyl problem, our streets are littered with 'spice' heads.
They’ve always had problems Saddo, new decade new trend.
I’ve never been offered spice must be real low fi types using that.
I’ve never been offered spice must be real low fi types using that.
Going to billies at 3 in the afternoon in London whilst mums were on the school run I was offered, choke, tweed, or a woman!
Who was stood across the street with two guys! She was girl, I declined!
Who was stood across the street with two guys! She was girl, I declined!
Standards have dropped alarmingly, things that used to be illegal are now acceptable.
I see no chance of a reversal tbh.
I see no chance of a reversal tbh.
Agree standards have gone all round in ever aspect. Shat I sound old!
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