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By:
duffy
When: 15 Apr 26 17:40
Realization of what he was up against IMO.

I wouldn't rule out hurdles again, that early season hurdle in October as a possible target.
By:
Whippin Piccadilly
When: 15 Apr 26 17:41
No surprise to me.
By:
Whippin Piccadilly
When: 15 Apr 26 17:44
Duffy, you've been wrong about CH going on the Flat the whole way along....you're at least consistent! Grin
By:
MJK
When: 15 Apr 26 18:01
Ground top quick he says. Did he have a time machine and run on the Fibresand at Southwell?
By:
Whippin Piccadilly
When: 15 Apr 26 19:01
Keep the faith Duffy! Grin
By:
saxon farm
When: 15 Apr 26 20:12
^
Stop posting bollox
By:
saxon farm
When: 15 Apr 26 20:13
Sorry Whipping Piccadilly that was not meant for you!
By:
Coneygree1971
When: 15 Apr 26 20:18
This is the problem. Doesn't want to run him over hurdles again because his jumping has gone to pot and can't race him on the flat (turf) because the ground will either be too quick or too heavy. It's all become a bit of farce.
By:
JohanntheGoatHurdler
When: 16 Apr 26 09:43
Just retire him.
Doesn't owe anybody anything and it's turning into massive damp squib.
By:
hulk23
When: 16 Apr 26 11:11
presume you nay bet were top price ante-post. 

roll up roll up.
By:
impossible123
When: 28 May 26 18:57
He's been entered for the Irish St Leger. Absolutely delusional and a waste of money. The fee could have gone to a food bank. But, Hendo has form; he ran the horse in Ireland post repeated falls, but not when the horse was invincible over hurdles.

Hendo has entered him for the Irish St Leger against possibles Forever Young, Al Riffa, Al Qareem, Dubai Honour, Illinois, Scandinavia, Minnie Hauk, etc. Constitution Hill chickened out in the John Porter against Al Aasy, Convergent, etc.

The journo has allocated an entire page to try and spin this farcical trash. A degeneration of journos at the Racing Post.
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 28 May 26 22:20
ground was forecast fast side of good..chickened out?
By:
slickster
When: 28 May 26 22:29
Has the obviously decent thing not been done yet??? That being retirement..
By:
uptheirons
When: 28 May 26 22:33
A ludicrous suggestion,Dickster.
The amount of cretins on here that think they know better than Hendo astounds me
By:
slickster
When: 28 May 26 22:35
How old is he Bubbles? Will he run on firm ground? There is absolutely no point in pursuing a flat career. NONE.
By:
uptheirons
When: 28 May 26 22:41
Nether you nor I own the horse.
We are therefore,not entitled (a feeling that many express on here)to tell connections what to do with their horse.
He who pays the piper,Dickster.
I have no idea what the horse will achieve on the Flat but will watch with interest
By:
The Knight
When: 29 May 26 05:44
uptheirons,,,,yes. of course, none of us own the horse. BUT, every day after every race punters express their views about how horses were ridden, whether they should have ran in the race, whether their trainers 'had them ready' etc etc etc. And without punters owners would have greatly reduced prize money to run for.

So, racehorses are like football teams - to some degree they are public property. Thus people on here are perfectly entitled to express an opinion about the path C Hill follows.

For whatever reason, you appear to want to defend Henderson who, sad to say, to me seems to have made a hash of C Hill's later career.

The Irish Leger is sometimes a glorofied handicap but, even so, I still doubt whether C Hill will improve enough aged 9 to win that race from where he is currently rated at just over 100.

At Ripon yesterday I was talking to another on-course punter and the view among the very few of us that are left is that Henderson has done a poor job with the horse since his jumping troubles began.

The general view is that Henderson either needs to run the horse a bit more or retire it. Yes, summer going is not ideal for the animal but Henderson has found a lot of reasons NOT to run for over 2 years now (exce;t for two mickey-mouse flat wins).

OK, perhaps that is fair enough (and he certainly knows better than I do about training horses) but he MUST start managing expectations over the animal. He will not even get into a Melbourne Cup, let alone win it.

Nor will he win a Group Race on the flat unless he lucks out in a small field one on heavy going in the autumn - and then he would still be no good thing.

I fear Hendeerson and his owner cannot rid themselves of thinking about how the horse USED TO BE.

He was brilliant for a while but, I tell you what, Night Nurse for one, would surely have put him away with little bother.

Until Henderson takes a more realistic position the horse will remain in this sad situation of so many expecting a reproduction of a brilliancnce that was pretty short-lived and has very probably been lost now.

The one thing that man or beat cannot avoid is how age unravels all of us eventually!!
By:
jerseyboy
When: 29 May 26 08:40
The Knight  People are entitled to their opinions, mine for what its worth is that CH has been very unlucky from being a hurdler who at his prime would of put Night Nurse to bed fairly easily.A horse that is dependent on a certain type of going and therefore does not suit the normal UK summer conditions. Those who take the easy road and criticise NJH are entitled to their opinion as much mistaken they maybe. How would they with the superior knowledge have treated and indeed raced the horse ?
I agree age catches up with every living thing and indeed he will do well to win any high class race unless everything falls in place for him.

As one who backed CH in ALL his early and successful races I have an affection for this once great racehorse.Also have the  greatest respect for his owner and trainer and indeed the lad who looks after him every day..Would it bother me if he never ran again ? No.
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 29 May 26 09:49
He was brilliant for a while but, I tell you what, Night Nurse for one, would surely have put him away with little bother.

never understood why people make hypothetical comparisons..a complete and utter waste of typing.
By:
Ramruma
When: 29 May 26 10:52
Because hypothetical match-ups are fun, because nostalgia is fun. And surely the idea of form, handicap ratings and speed figures and sectionals and all the rest is that they do facilitate comparisons between horses who have never met.

Which is handy because if you think about it, this happens in numerous races every single day.
By:
Ramruma
When: 29 May 26 10:54
And I only came in to make a joke about Constitution Hill's connections moaning about their bad draw in the French Derby.
By:
impossible123
When: 29 May 26 11:57
Constitution Hill in the French Derby? A fantasy Hendo would not be accorded nit even from King Charles.
By:
Ramruma
When: 29 May 26 12:30
Yes. It was the similarity of the names, Con Hill and Con River, the hype, and that connections are getting their excuses in early.
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