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TD23
06 Apr 26 12:11
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Slightly later than planned as gas went off and couldnt boil kettle.

Race number - horse number - price on the exchange at time of selecting

Fakenham
1 - 4@10.5
2 - 5@24
3 - 1@5.8
4 - 2@3.95
5 - 2@4.2
6 - 5@2.86

Hereford
1 - 1@25
2 - no bet
3 - 6@9.58
4 - 6@8
5 - 3@4.7
6 - 3@2.38
7 - 8@5.1

Plumpton
1 - 1@2.5
2 - 1@5.6
3 - 4@4.2
4 - 2@15.5
5 - 8@11
6 - 3@3.65
7 - 4@1.97

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By:
HoratioNelson
When: 06 Apr 26 12:15
Opinions....spot on. Best of luck Wink
By:
TD23
When: 06 Apr 26 12:38
Haha your past comment made me think. Im glad you said it. Although i do believe the two are closely linked.
Thank you. Bound to have a stinker today.
By:
barstool
When: 06 Apr 26 12:46
You would probably be better off backing at bf sp.
By:
the.mad.dog.man
When: 06 Apr 26 12:50
royal free hospital was once very good now a carsy 2nd and 3rd division doctors there now
By:
TD23
When: 06 Apr 26 12:58
Barstool, this is a part of it im struggling to figure out and hoping my bro in law can point me in right direction, say once ive had 1000 selctions or something..
I have notoced a lot of my winners were availaboe at much bigger prices at tines throught the day and also as you say, bf sp has shown better at tines too.
But in the same breath, a lot of them get back in too.
I dont recorde bf or industry sp, tote etc but i might start tracking them.  Its time and other commitments that stop me. Thabks for advice.
By:
Brian
When: 06 Apr 26 13:07
The problem with backing at Betfair SP is that if you are backing with a significant amount at ordinary meetings , you could lower the Betfair SP considerably so comparisons with your current taking a price bets with Betfair SP will likely be misleading.
By:
loper
When: 06 Apr 26 13:09
So if a horse is available for £2 to back then that is the price you give for your selection and then you use that price in order to calculate your return on investment?
By:
loper
When: 06 Apr 26 13:12
Perhaps you should be using stake matched average price rather than fictitious prices that are never laid?
By:
TD23
When: 06 Apr 26 13:21
Loper ive backed these at the prices stated.  Similar to how hugh taylor back his at the proces available and uses those prices in his stats.
I do want to put all the prices into spreadsheet ie the isp bfsp tote etc and see what they read.  At present im only putting in what ive backed them at on the exchange so theres no fiction about any lays as they all been matched and were available at the time i put them.
By:
stewarts rise
When: 06 Apr 26 13:26
I wish you luck with this project, appears a little like the "Maria" laying system in reverse.
By:
loper
When: 06 Apr 26 13:26
So what is your average stake?

At what time of day did you back your first selection at 25s which is now trading at 6.4?
By:
slickster
When: 06 Apr 26 13:28
All I can say is try not to lose too much.
By:
TD23
When: 06 Apr 26 13:31
Loper i backed that forst one 15 mins before posting here. Maybe ten mins. It been walloped in hasnt it. Thought there was value in the proce when i looked at that race.  Generally it will be between 10.30 and 12.30 i place my bets.

Slickster ive never heard of the maria appoach thpugh i will certainly be looking it up.
By:
loper
When: 06 Apr 26 13:35
I am finding it difficult to imagine that looking at the graph for Elusive Pb that 25s was still available at 12.00 yet was only 10s 20 mins later.
By:
TD23
When: 06 Apr 26 13:43
Loper am i able to post a photo on here? Im an honest man and that is definitely the proce i backed it at. Placed, but to be fair i wouldnt have backed it at the proce it went off at. Favpurite won well.
By:
TD23
When: 06 Apr 26 13:45
Loper. 11.50am i backed it.
By:
loper
When: 06 Apr 26 13:46
TD23, if you continually beat SP by 500% then you will do even better than you already claim, it doesn't matter what your strike rate is or what ability each horse has, you will be the greatest punter of all time!
By:
top2rated
When: 06 Apr 26 14:01
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By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 06 Apr 26 14:08
1st one goes in well done
By:
TameTheTiger
When: 06 Apr 26 16:12
previous 119 bets the average price of winners would have been 11.17. Thats 21 X 10/1 winners. How come todays selections are nowhere near the average price of the previous 119 ?
By:
TD23
When: 06 Apr 26 16:28
Hi tame

So i dont have any set preference of prices. I taoe each day as it comes and bets are placed based on many things but value being one of them.  You asked somewhere else if they were ew bets. No they are all straight win bets.
The odds of the horses i choose vary greatly.  Just todays are what they are, other days there will be huge priced horses among them. Biggest proce winner since i started tracking was 60 on the exchange so that will have boosted the average up. Hope this makes sense.
By:
TameTheTiger
When: 06 Apr 26 16:36
yes im thinking you must have had a couple of huge priced winners that have skewed the p/l
By:
TameTheTiger
When: 06 Apr 26 16:47
another couple of winners at around 30 means that 116 of your 119 bets are actually break even
By:
loper
When: 06 Apr 26 16:50
Until TD23 discloses his stakes on all his bets it is not possible to calculate his Return on Investment.
By:
TameTheTiger
When: 06 Apr 26 16:59
im assuming its been level stakes on all horses
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 06 Apr 26 17:46
TD23 06 Apr 26 12:11 
Slightly later than planned as gas went off and couldnt boil kettle.

Race number - horse number - price on the exchange at time of selecting

Fakenham
1 - 4@10....unplaiced
2 - 5@24....unplaiced
3 - 1@5.8...unplaiced
4 - 2@3.95..2nd
5 - 2@4.2...unplaiced
6 - 5@2.86..won 2/1

Hereford
1 - 1@25....3rd
2 - no bet
3 - 6@9.58..2nd
4 - 6@8.....unplaiced
5 - 3@4.7...2nd
6 - 3@2.38..2nd
7 - 8@5.1...2nd

Plumpton
1 - 1@2.5...1st
2 - 1@5.6...3rd
3 - 4@4.2...won
4 - 2@15.5..unplaiced
5 - 8@11....unplaiced
6 - 3@3.65..2nd
7 - 4@1.97..2nd

tough game innit.
By:
leif
When: 06 Apr 26 18:16
Gone back to Tw4tter.
Pin stikers stood in betting shops all day having a bet on every race, and it rarely ends well.
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 06 Apr 26 20:38
he shud have followed the forum DG today.
By:
uptheirons
When: 06 Apr 26 20:39
How did he do?
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 06 Apr 26 20:50
5/6 wen i looked at 4 ish.
By:
uptheirons
When: 06 Apr 26 21:18
He will wipe it as we both know.
It really is a matter of when he does.
By:
TD23
When: 06 Apr 26 21:19
Haha i aint on twitter and dont do pinstickers. Been to the boozer to watch my beloved boro **** up auto promotion for the umpteenth time.
Think about 50% of stakes returned today. A bad day but clawed a little back.
Yes Tame level stakes on all bets at the minute.
Will be posting them everyday, and have enjoyed reading everyones posts, so thabk you to everyone who has responded to my two posts.
Rico what is the forum DG? Dont really use this forum or any othrr so dont know what that is.
Also rico thank you for adding results to my opinions. Cheers all. Enjoy the rest of your bank holidays. UTB
By:
uptheirons
When: 06 Apr 26 21:23
DG is a degenerate gambler of which StewartyB is a life long example.
By:
TD23
When: 07 Apr 26 11:13
Exeter

1 - 5@40
2 - 2@16
3 - 2@8.2
4 - 5@7.6
5 - 8@7.8
6 - 2@3.65
7 - 1@8.2  favourite should easy bag this one but 3m chase anything could happen and worth taking on at the price it is. In my opinion. Debated no bet in this race.

Best of luck to all, whatever you are backing today.
Happy Tuesday.
By:
barstool
When: 07 Apr 26 12:03
Good luck with those.

Both meetings look like minefields this afternoon.
By:
TD23
When: 07 Apr 26 12:28
Thanks barstool. A Tough racing tuesday i think. Best of luck woth your selections if you are having a go today.
By:
TD23
When: 07 Apr 26 14:25
1st one placed at 38 bfsp 25/1 isp.  Maybe further it would have been closer. Didnt finish too far behind the winner, but wasnt the best horse on the day. Good price for a place tho.
Good luck all.
By:
TD23
When: 07 Apr 26 14:50
2nd one places in a messy race. Favourite flopped, gamble landed.
My selection 3rd @ 18.05 bfsp 11/1 isp.
Well done to all who were on the winner.
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 07 Apr 26 15:06
well done td23 nice placers
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