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About time one of them had the goolies to call him out for talking bowlocks about best fastest etc, the man is the biggest bull**** in the history of horse racing
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I’m really not sure why you feel that you have to put people down and when you make such remarks say to who it’s actually aimed at!
The utterly certifiable,autistic,non punting cretin is still relentlessly is still at it
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Aidan O'Brien removes two horses including former favourite Albert Einstein from 2,000 Guineas with immediate effect https://share.google/WzpoejxhfQfIMydTC
Aidan O'Brien removes two horses including former favourite Albert Einstein from 2,000 Guineas with immediate effect https://share.google/WzpoejxhfQfIMydTC
2,000 Guineas market in turmoil after top Aidan O'Brien colts Gstaad and Albert Einstein mistakenly scratched from race
You couldn’t make it up could you!
You couldn’t make it up could you!
The ante-post betting for the Betfred 2,000 Guineas was thrown into turmoil on Tuesday when Gstaad and Albert Einstein were incorrectly scratched from the race.
Trainer Aidan O'Brien stated that both colts were removed from the Newmarket Classic on May 2 due to an administrative error and that he is working to try to get them reinstated.
O'Brien said: "There was a blip on the computer. Something happened, the computer went bananas and took out a couple of horses that weren't meant to be taken out. We are hoping to get them back in and could do with a bit of common sense being applied.
"The people here in the office were trying to take the horses out of the Dante, but the Guineas flashed up instead and that button was pressed. They were pressing for the Dante, but as they were pressing the Guineas flashed up. They weren't meant to be taken out of the Guineas and we are working on getting them back in."
Trainer Aidan O'Brien stated that both colts were removed from the Newmarket Classic on May 2 due to an administrative error and that he is working to try to get them reinstated.
O'Brien said: "There was a blip on the computer. Something happened, the computer went bananas and took out a couple of horses that weren't meant to be taken out. We are hoping to get them back in and could do with a bit of common sense being applied.
"The people here in the office were trying to take the horses out of the Dante, but the Guineas flashed up instead and that button was pressed. They were pressing for the Dante, but as they were pressing the Guineas flashed up. They weren't meant to be taken out of the Guineas and we are working on getting them back in."
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BREAKING: Aidan O'Brien has stated that Gstaad and Albert Einstein were removed from the 2,000 Guineas due to an administrative error arising from a computer glitch. The trainer is still working to try and get both colts reinstated.
O'Brien said: "There was a blip on the computer. Something happened, the computer went bananas and took out a couple of horses that weren't meant to be taken out. We are hoping to get them back in and could do with a bit of common sense being applied. The people here in the office were trying to take the horses out of the Dante, but the Guineas flashed up instead and that button was pressed.
"They were pressing for the Dante but as they were pressing the Guineas flashed up. They weren't meant to be taken out of the Guineas and we are working on getting them back in."
@RacingPost
BREAKING: Aidan O'Brien has stated that Gstaad and Albert Einstein were removed from the 2,000 Guineas due to an administrative error arising from a computer glitch. The trainer is still working to try and get both colts reinstated.
O'Brien said: "There was a blip on the computer. Something happened, the computer went bananas and took out a couple of horses that weren't meant to be taken out. We are hoping to get them back in and could do with a bit of common sense being applied. The people here in the office were trying to take the horses out of the Dante, but the Guineas flashed up instead and that button was pressed.
"They were pressing for the Dante but as they were pressing the Guineas flashed up. They weren't meant to be taken out of the Guineas and we are working on getting them back in."
Computer error or human error? Obvious which one O'Brien is going to pick. If it was computer error then how come it hasn't affected anybody else? The last thing they should be doing is reinstating just because it's O'Brien. Can't they supplement?
No doubt one of the geniuses on here has made a fortune on it...
Do people believe that it was an accident?
On Sunday he was talking about Moore riding Gstaad with a view to newmarket!
All these shenanigans [:crazy:
On Sunday he was talking about Moore riding Gstaad with a view to newmarket!
All these shenanigans [:crazy:
No probably not an accident but instead it was probably a genuine mistake.
why does AOB want to reinstate a horse in to 2000 G,who he told us 48hr ago was a sprinter ?
"What has happened won't affect what we will be doing. They will stay on their programmes. At the moment, it looks like we are going to train Albert for the Guineas, and that has also been the plan for Gstaad. I'd imagine the lads will supplement them if we decide that's the thing to do."
In other words, Aidan thinks Einstein is a sprinter but has been overruled by Magnier into having a crack at the Guineas.
In other words, Aidan thinks Einstein is a sprinter but has been overruled by Magnier into having a crack at the Guineas.
A horse can only run in the Guineas once, so why not? Can still go down the Commonwealth Cup route afterwards. And it wouldn't be the first time an AOB horse makes a miraculous recovery/improvement.
So my antepost bet on Albert Einstein is now scratched? i backed him after that poor run the weekend at big prices, what's the rules here. Is my money gone?.
Ok cheers Stro it seemed like you were hopeful of a run still, all this is just to murky the water cast doubt.
Can’t see anyone championing his chance.
Even after the Lion in Winter flopped in the Dante people were after backing him, recall Wally saying that he’d go in if it was pushed to 10/1! Think it was 6/1.
If supped it’s a runner surely?
Can’t see anyone championing his chance.
Even after the Lion in Winter flopped in the Dante people were after backing him, recall Wally saying that he’d go in if it was pushed to 10/1! Think it was 6/1.
If supped it’s a runner surely?
A gravy-trainer journo has suggested to give AE another chance citing Auguste Rodin and City Of Troy, both Derby winners after flopping in The 2000G. I think this journo is being disingenuous and unprofessional.
Auguste Rodin had an eventful and troubled run in the 2000G eg ran into the back of a runner, stumbled, etc; City Of Troy was way undercooked, and ran very keenly. He also had an episode in the stall.
Albert Enstein ran with the choke out throughout last time. He also never ran further than 6f last season. He suffered a setback too.
Auguste Rodin had an eventful and troubled run in the 2000G eg ran into the back of a runner, stumbled, etc; City Of Troy was way undercooked, and ran very keenly. He also had an episode in the stall.
Albert Enstein ran with the choke out throughout last time. He also never ran further than 6f last season. He suffered a setback too.
It’s actually hilarious that you have a market on here without potentially the full field!
It’s dirty AF!
It’s dirty AF!
'gravy-trainer journo' - can you narrow it down a bit as you have described all of them?
Free publicity (or publicity costing not a lot to Cookmore).
We accidently took Albert Einstein out of the 2000 Guineas.
We paid to supplement Albert Einstein into the 2000 Guineas because he is a superstar.
We accidently took Albert Einstein out of the 2000 Guineas.
We paid to supplement Albert Einstein into the 2000 Guineas because he is a superstar.
So my antepost bet on Albert Einstein is now scratched? i backed him after that poor run the weekend at big prices, what's the rules here. Is my money gone?.
Yes of course, if your horse doesnt run you have done your money.
Yes of course, if your horse doesnt run you have done your money.
... From what I gather the Horse is still entered, but on that showing his running in the race looks remote at best.
Thought he was scratched yesterday in error and will cost £30k to supplement if they decide to supplement. As for lingbleed bet still stands IF he is supplemented.
He wrote "Don't rush to judgement over Einstein" in The Sporting Life Plus citing Auguste Rodin and City Of Troy as his defence.
He also said this:
When asked if he could work back from the Commonwealth Cup, O'Brien said: "Yes, that's very possible now. Obviously, we’ll go and talk to the lads and see what they want to do, but there is a very good chance that’s the route he’s going to go.
"He will definitely have another run before the Commonwealth Cup. The sprinters are coming here [for a racecourse gallop] tomorrow – Charles Darwin, Brussels and a few others – they are all three-year-old sprinters as well and this fella will add into the mix there. This fella was always a bit different, but we'll see.
When asked if he could work back from the Commonwealth Cup, O'Brien said: "Yes, that's very possible now. Obviously, we’ll go and talk to the lads and see what they want to do, but there is a very good chance that’s the route he’s going to go.
"He will definitely have another run before the Commonwealth Cup. The sprinters are coming here [for a racecourse gallop] tomorrow – Charles Darwin, Brussels and a few others – they are all three-year-old sprinters as well and this fella will add into the mix there. This fella was always a bit different, but we'll see.
So he saying lots as ever to muddy the waters and add the element of doubt for punters, all fun and games for them instead of being straight.
No, he is being straight. The confusion comes from a disagreement between "the lads" and himself.
OK, straightish since I don't believe the computer glitch.
OK, straightish since I don't believe the computer glitch.
I’m not so trusting Ram to think that he is nor do I believe the glitch.
If you read that statement above it looks like the CC is the plan, so they plan to supp the horse for the Guineas as prep run for Ascot?
If you read that statement above it looks like the CC is the plan, so they plan to supp the horse for the Guineas as prep run for Ascot?
He’s also said this, be interesting to see who he’s on then come the day. I wonder if anyone backed Gstaad on the back of this report?
O'Brien added on Sunday: "Ryan was riding Gstaad this morning and he had it in his head that he could be the horse for Newmarket. Obviously, Puerto Rico is there, and we'll see how they come out of the work and see how Albert Einstein is as well.
"I'd imagine Ryan picked to ride Gstaad because he's thinking of him for Newmarket, but we'll see how the next couple of weeks go."
But he’s not paid to imagine anything, they talk and plan everything through, it’s talking but remaining vague.
O'Brien added on Sunday: "Ryan was riding Gstaad this morning and he had it in his head that he could be the horse for Newmarket. Obviously, Puerto Rico is there, and we'll see how they come out of the work and see how Albert Einstein is as well.
"I'd imagine Ryan picked to ride Gstaad because he's thinking of him for Newmarket, but we'll see how the next couple of weeks go."
But he’s not paid to imagine anything, they talk and plan everything through, it’s talking but remaining vague.
Delashay: here is how I read it.
Aidan thinks he is a sprinter.
Magnier wants to try for the Guineas just in case.
There is no "the plan"; there are two different plans, and Aidan has been overruled but is trying to plot a course back to the Commonwealth Cup.
Now for the computer glitch. Aidan took him out of the Guineas but was ordered to put him back in. The computer story is so that if Albert Einstein does win the Guineas, breeders will not remember he was taken out because of stamina doubts.
Also if he does win the Guineas, he might suffer an unfortunate but trivial injury meaning he retires straight to stud without being asked to win another mile race in case he can't.
Btw, amidst all my cynicism, remember the part they agree on which is that Albert Einstein is their best.
Aidan thinks he is a sprinter.
Magnier wants to try for the Guineas just in case.
There is no "the plan"; there are two different plans, and Aidan has been overruled but is trying to plot a course back to the Commonwealth Cup.
Now for the computer glitch. Aidan took him out of the Guineas but was ordered to put him back in. The computer story is so that if Albert Einstein does win the Guineas, breeders will not remember he was taken out because of stamina doubts.
Also if he does win the Guineas, he might suffer an unfortunate but trivial injury meaning he retires straight to stud without being asked to win another mile race in case he can't.
Btw, amidst all my cynicism, remember the part they agree on which is that Albert Einstein is their best.
Thanks Ramruma for sharing your take on it and from the breeding angle it makes a lot of sense and what you think is going on within.
I’ll wait until I see him do it on the track as last season is still fresh in my mind when they talked up one but he failed to fire.
One thing that bugs me is do they really have that amount of talent in this crop to have three different horses capable of winning the Coventry in the same year?
Darwin was thought to be their runner in that, then in steps Gstaad and wins.
The form of Albert through Andab doesn't yet match the talk and he has a lot of catching up to do with others who’ve done more on the track.
That said he’s meant to be a massive horse weighing in at over 500+kilos so he will no doubt take a step forwards from that run, he’s the size of Illinois last seasonwhich seems hard to believe for a 3 year old.
I’ll wait until I see him do it on the track as last season is still fresh in my mind when they talked up one but he failed to fire.
One thing that bugs me is do they really have that amount of talent in this crop to have three different horses capable of winning the Coventry in the same year?
Darwin was thought to be their runner in that, then in steps Gstaad and wins.
The form of Albert through Andab doesn't yet match the talk and he has a lot of catching up to do with others who’ve done more on the track.
That said he’s meant to be a massive horse weighing in at over 500+kilos so he will no doubt take a step forwards from that run, he’s the size of Illinois last seasonwhich seems hard to believe for a 3 year old.
Check this out:
"He's a horse who has always excited us and I'd say he still will," the trainer said. "I know what this horse is able to do. He's so big and when Ryan sat up on him he could not believe the width of him. He's 560kg going down into that ground. He's a lot bigger than the horses he was racing against, who are probably 460kg or 470kg. This guy is a monster and being that big in heavy ground is very difficult for him.
As a punter I’ve long said that us public should know these weights, so I’d love to know how much he lost after that run?
This part from the same article sounds very much the same as what was cited after TLIW’s run in the Dante last year. We know next time out he flopped in a race over the wrong trip next time out. Can we expect the same?
"I was happy with the way he behaved. He didn't do anything wrong, only that he was travelling a gear or two high, and then when he got tired he didn't fall in a hole, he kept plugging away. That will do his character the world of good. He got tired and he had to keep going."
"He's a horse who has always excited us and I'd say he still will," the trainer said. "I know what this horse is able to do. He's so big and when Ryan sat up on him he could not believe the width of him. He's 560kg going down into that ground. He's a lot bigger than the horses he was racing against, who are probably 460kg or 470kg. This guy is a monster and being that big in heavy ground is very difficult for him.
As a punter I’ve long said that us public should know these weights, so I’d love to know how much he lost after that run?
This part from the same article sounds very much the same as what was cited after TLIW’s run in the Dante last year. We know next time out he flopped in a race over the wrong trip next time out. Can we expect the same?
"I was happy with the way he behaved. He didn't do anything wrong, only that he was travelling a gear or two high, and then when he got tired he didn't fall in a hole, he kept plugging away. That will do his character the world of good. He got tired and he had to keep going."
Get the impression some people dont realise yet that the Titanic sank
Great expression!
There are some hoping that it’s not but remaining quiet.
There are some hoping that it’s not but remaining quiet.
plus why it's far too early to give up on Albert Einstein
Our Weekender columnist looks ahead
Tom Segal
Tipster
MJK
Our Weekender columnist looks ahead
Tom Segal
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MJK
Delashay • April 1, 2026 10:38 AM BST
Thanks Ramruma for sharing your take on it and from the breeding angle it makes a lot of sense and what you think is going on within.
The form of Albert through Andab doesn't yet match the talk and he has a lot of catching up to do with others who’ve done more on the track.
Thanks Ramruma for sharing your take on it and from the breeding angle it makes a lot of sense and what you think is going on within.
The form of Albert through Andab doesn't yet match the talk and he has a lot of catching up to do with others who’ve done more on the track.
Delashay • March 29, 2026 4:23 PM BST
Delashay • March 21, 2026 9:35 AM GMT
There’s enough in the formlines through Andab to Albert to warrant taking him on, that and never having raced over further than 6f.
Andab 5 runs 1 win 1 2nd 1 3rd
2/7 btn 2½L Rayif 9-1
6/10 btn 3¼L Zavateri 9-6
4/20 btn 3¾L Gstaad 9-3
3/6 btn 1½ Albert Einstein
(Finished behind Do or Do Not twice amongst those races above so gives the form some look of being creditable)
Been telling those Hugo that listened
Delashay • March 21, 2026 9:35 AM GMT
There’s enough in the formlines through Andab to Albert to warrant taking him on, that and never having raced over further than 6f.
Andab 5 runs 1 win 1 2nd 1 3rd
2/7 btn 2½L Rayif 9-1
6/10 btn 3¼L Zavateri 9-6
4/20 btn 3¾L Gstaad 9-3
3/6 btn 1½ Albert Einstein
(Finished behind Do or Do Not twice amongst those races above so gives the form some look of being creditable)
Been telling those Hugo that listened
Ramruma • March 31, 2026 2:12 PM BST
"What has happened won't affect what we will be doing. They will stay on their programmes. At the moment, it looks like we are going to train Albert for the Guineas, and that has also been the plan for Gstaad. I'd imagine the lads will supplement them if we decide that's the thing to do."
In other words, Aidan thinks Einstein is a sprinter but has been overruled by Magnier into having a crack at the Guineas.
We’ll see how straight he was Ramruma those two with a programme and scratched are weak, whereas PRico is being cut now.
Gassstd now out to 17 with PRico as low as 7/1
"What has happened won't affect what we will be doing. They will stay on their programmes. At the moment, it looks like we are going to train Albert for the Guineas, and that has also been the plan for Gstaad. I'd imagine the lads will supplement them if we decide that's the thing to do."
In other words, Aidan thinks Einstein is a sprinter but has been overruled by Magnier into having a crack at the Guineas.
We’ll see how straight he was Ramruma those two with a programme and scratched are weak, whereas PRico is being cut now.
Gassstd now out to 17 with PRico as low as 7/1
“I'd imagine the lads will supplement them if we decide that's the thing to do."
Loves to add the cover despite it being a contradiction!
Delashay • April 1, 2026 9:47 AM BST
"I'd imagine Ryan picked to ride Gstaad because he's thinking of him for Newmarket, but we'll see how the next couple of weeks go."
But he’s not paid to imagine anything, they talk and plan everything through, it’s talking but remaining vague.
There were some feeling sorry for them having to pay a supp! Let’s see if it happens.
386 go a standout 10’s Gassstdt now.
Loves to add the cover despite it being a contradiction!
Delashay • April 1, 2026 9:47 AM BST
"I'd imagine Ryan picked to ride Gstaad because he's thinking of him for Newmarket, but we'll see how the next couple of weeks go."
But he’s not paid to imagine anything, they talk and plan everything through, it’s talking but remaining vague.
There were some feeling sorry for them having to pay a supp! Let’s see if it happens.
386 go a standout 10’s Gassstdt now.
Do you read other posts or do you just pretend others haven't been saying this and make out you've just thought of it?
I’ve been recording all of his talk, it’s all there, been questioning them and the story about this horse being their best.
MJK • April 4, 2026 11:25 AM BST
Do you read other posts
Here I read your post and replied
MJK • April 1, 2026 11:45 AM BST
Get the impression some people dont realise yet that the Titanic sank
April 1, 2026 2:24 PM BST
Great expression!
There are some hoping that it’s not but remaining quiet.
MJK • April 4, 2026 11:25 AM BST
Do you read other posts
Here I read your post and replied
MJK • April 1, 2026 11:45 AM BST
Get the impression some people dont realise yet that the Titanic sank
April 1, 2026 2:24 PM BST
Great expression!
There are some hoping that it’s not but remaining quiet.
Why dont you quote me from last Sunday on this thread re sprinting and breeding?
Because it doesn’t match with what’s going on and hs been said by , “The very decent man…”
MJK • March 29, 2026 1:24 PM BST
Think Aiden is a very decent man in general and a great trainer. This horse is clearly a sprinter but they were trying to make him a miler purely for the breeding end, like they try to make non stayers into Derby horses. I'm sure if Aiden wasn't under pressure from Magnier etc he'd run the horses where he thinks they should be running.
We differ on that
Think Aiden is a very decent man in general and a great trainer. This horse is clearly a sprinter but they were trying to make him a miler purely for the breeding end, like they try to make non stayers into Derby horses. I'm sure if Aiden wasn't under pressure from Magnier etc he'd run the horses where he thinks they should be running.
We differ on that
You believe that they try to stretch them, I believe that they mislead punters.
You’ve called him a sprinter, I’ve said I never fancied it and given reasons why. You also have said the same about him the trainer and decent man being pressured to run him over the wrong trip by Magnier as Ramruma has also explained.
If he lines up in the Guineas show me where he’s says, before the race that this horse is a sprinter, don’t back it.
I don’t ever recall him being so straight with people.
You’ve called him a sprinter, I’ve said I never fancied it and given reasons why. You also have said the same about him the trainer and decent man being pressured to run him over the wrong trip by Magnier as Ramruma has also explained.
If he lines up in the Guineas show me where he’s says, before the race that this horse is a sprinter, don’t back it.
I don’t ever recall him being so straight with people.
So to sum it up you’ve said he’s a sprinter, I’ve questioned if he ever really was their number one? Two different conversations and viewpoints.
I don’t back horses for the Guineas who haven’t run over further than 6f as a 2 yr old.
I don’t back horses for the Guineas who haven’t run over further than 6f as a 2 yr old.
You do realise my Titanic reference? You quote another poster after I said basically the same thing about sprinting and breeding two days earlier.
And called him a sprinter the day after he ran on the 28th, quoting the other poster Ramruma is showing that I’ve read others comments.
I’d said before Andab ran yesterday and before Albert ran that his form was nothing special and didn’t match the hype!
All that IS clear.
All that IS clear.
If AE wins the 2000G at Newmarket I'd walk from Cheam to Ballydoyle with the owner's permission, of course. Only the egos of his connections will take him there, neither potential nor proven stamina.
Delashay • April 4, 2026 1:49 PM BST
And called him a sprinter the day after he ran on the 28th, quoting the other poster Ramruma is showing that I’ve read others comments.
Delashay • April 4, 2026 1:50 PM BST
So what’s your issue?
And called him a sprinter the day after he ran on the 28th, quoting the other poster Ramruma is showing that I’ve read others comments.
Delashay • April 4, 2026 1:50 PM BST
So what’s your issue?
Been carrying it since then?
When I pointed out that you’d waited until the day after Albert ran to declare him a sprinter?
And because I’ve criticised your fav trainer in Anti!
When I pointed out that you’d waited until the day after Albert ran to declare him a sprinter?
And because I’ve criticised your fav trainer in Anti!
MJK • April 11, 2026 4:46 PM BST
Dela dont be trying to deflect. I asked a simple question but perhaps, just perhaps, you're not as clever as you try to be on here
Is this your intelligence test?
MJK • April 4, 2026 1:40 PM BST
You do realise my Titanic reference?
You know where the Black Star Liner was going to take those who got onboard?
Dela dont be trying to deflect. I asked a simple question but perhaps, just perhaps, you're not as clever as you try to be on here
Is this your intelligence test?
MJK • April 4, 2026 1:40 PM BST
You do realise my Titanic reference?
You know where the Black Star Liner was going to take those who got onboard?
group3 in ireland today 9 runners, 8 connected to obriens 
, sad to see the racing now , so the great days of the 70s to start of the new century
, sad to see the racing now , so the great days of the 70s to start of the new century
It’s nought but a staged gallop but can I say that John?
If I’d backed the Derby fav I’d be worried about him running there today!
Pierre Bonnard, the Derby fav, is on show in The Ballysax at Leopardstown today. I hope he's not going there just to stretch his legs or accommodate one of his stablemates or his cousins from the O'Brien family.
I think it might be. His price of just odds against does not inspire confidence either. Any bookie dangling a carrot or superboost for his admirers?
I think it might be. His price of just odds against does not inspire confidence either. Any bookie dangling a carrot or superboost for his admirers?
I’ve just read Maddy Poyles piece about how AOB trains and brings his horses on excusing the early season defeats on there being a long season ahead.
Defeats for Albert Einstein and Pierre Bonnard could make perfect sense - just ask Dan Skelton
Our Weekender columnist with her take on the recent action
Maddy Poyle
“Disappointing reappearances in the 2,000 Guineas did not stop Auguste Rodin and City Of Troy flourishing into the outstanding colts of their generation, so it would be too early to say Albert Einstein and Pierre Bonnard cannot do the same.
O'Brien seems to be increasingly conditioning his horses in this way, presumably to ensure they can see out demanding seasons with the option to travel to Australia, the US and Hong Kong in the winter and potentially the Middle East the following year.
His top older horses have been warming up this way for years, taking in but not always winning races like the Alleged and Mooresbridge Stakes en route to the Tattersalls Gold Cup and Prince of Wales's Stakes. For the stayers, there is the Vintage Crop and Saval Beg.”
Well this seems all fanciful to me, many of these horses don’t make the travel that’s been described. Most get retired and AoB hasn’t been targeting foreign races at the end of the with any great success, Breeders cup aside.
Compare how Graffard campaigned Calandagan last year, the horse started his season in Dubai and finished it in the Japan Cup.
Never putting in such dire runs as these so called AoB stars!
So why can the Frenchman bring a horse along like that and take in every top race and these “stars” run so badly, excuses, excuses.
Defeats for Albert Einstein and Pierre Bonnard could make perfect sense - just ask Dan Skelton
Our Weekender columnist with her take on the recent action
Maddy Poyle
“Disappointing reappearances in the 2,000 Guineas did not stop Auguste Rodin and City Of Troy flourishing into the outstanding colts of their generation, so it would be too early to say Albert Einstein and Pierre Bonnard cannot do the same.
O'Brien seems to be increasingly conditioning his horses in this way, presumably to ensure they can see out demanding seasons with the option to travel to Australia, the US and Hong Kong in the winter and potentially the Middle East the following year.
His top older horses have been warming up this way for years, taking in but not always winning races like the Alleged and Mooresbridge Stakes en route to the Tattersalls Gold Cup and Prince of Wales's Stakes. For the stayers, there is the Vintage Crop and Saval Beg.”
Well this seems all fanciful to me, many of these horses don’t make the travel that’s been described. Most get retired and AoB hasn’t been targeting foreign races at the end of the with any great success, Breeders cup aside.
Compare how Graffard campaigned Calandagan last year, the horse started his season in Dubai and finished it in the Japan Cup.
Never putting in such dire runs as these so called AoB stars!
So why can the Frenchman bring a horse along like that and take in every top race and these “stars” run so badly, excuses, excuses.
The current gravy wouldn’t last a minute with the late Peter Walwyn and Dick Hern….
Things were different then,and much better..
Things were different then,and much better..
How did AOB manage to smuggle The Lion In Winter for this Listed race at Leopardstwn today (15:37)? Even money. Will he skate it or bomb again?
He managed to get that fit despite an enter after for the Lockinge! Funny that! A nice confidence booster!
Did you play it Impossible?
A nice confidence booster!Did you play it Impossible?
No, I was watching Moore at Newmarket. I only noticed it just before the off. I do not think I'd have played. I think a Listed and Gp 2 (at best) is his standard. The expectation of last year was too lofty.
But, I'll be watching out for Jan Brueghel. The horse was messed with in public in his last race.
Change of plan for Derby favourite as Aidan O'Brien eyes another stunning Chester-Epsom double
I thought it highly odd that he said yesterday that the Italian was to run at Epsom!
He really should button it and keep these sound bites to himself until they are declared.
Enter and declare no more talk putting people away beforehand.
I thought it highly odd that he said yesterday that the Italian was to run at Epsom!
He really should button it and keep these sound bites to himself until they are declared.
Enter and declare no more talk putting people away beforehand.
Indeed. I think this might have to do with age. Hendo is another who does this regularly. classic. I've never known Sir Cecil ever saying that; a change of target so soon after telling the racing world the horse's next target.
What an unsatisfactory behaviour from the supposedly top trainer of Flat racing. The price one pays as a punter and supporter of horseracing. Hold your antepost bet.
What an unsatisfactory behaviour from the supposedly top trainer of Flat racing. The price one pays as a punter and supporter of horseracing. Hold your antepost bet.
Thank you Impossible, I’m not interested in him even if he goes to Chester, the trainer is being tricky taking in different races this year for his fancied runners, why?
Because he knows he’s being watched and the more carrots he can feed the public the more they can enjoy and profit from it.
Because he knows he’s being watched and the more carrots he can feed the public the more they can enjoy and profit from it.
I think for him and the Coolmore boys (yes boy!) to persevere with trying to make Albert Einstein (after 2 flops) into a miler is laughable and greedy. I understand a miler is worth more at stud than a sprinter nevertheless, it is not in the interest of the horse and might even be cruel.
Moore is saying AOB could get into the minds of the horses. Wow! AOB is a horse psychiatrist. Who'd have believed that!
Albert Einstein, stop fighting your trainer. He can "manage" your mind!
Albert Einstein, stop fighting your trainer. He can "manage" your mind!
2 weeks before the guiness and lets be honest no one knows really what is running ,
an open guineas and the field will cut up a bit already on samangan and the varian horse but as said this will cut up and no hard in a few cracks at big odds imo,the greenham winner alparsan did it well but will he get a mile ? i thought the one to take out of the greenham was needle match on only his 2nd run a bit sluggish out of the stalls and still a bit green didnt get the clearest of runs and finished well btn 2 and a quarter lengths was a smart effort for one so inexperienced 50/1 for the guineas and should improve a bundle looking like a mile will suit much better than the 7f of the greenham ,i would certainly have him to reverse the form with the 3 who finished in front of him and have had a few quid ew at the 50s .
MJK • April 4, 2026 1:40 PM BST
You do realise my Titanic reference? You quote another poster after I said basically the same thing about sprinting and breeding two days earlier.
Do you know that the last time Chelsea lost five in a row without scoring, the Titantic sunk!
You do realise my Titanic reference? You quote another poster after I said basically the same thing about sprinting and breeding two days earlier.
Do you know that the last time Chelsea lost five in a row without scoring, the Titantic sunk!
I'm not sure how anyone can bet on a classic with any degree of confidence anymore. The O'briens (all of them together) come up with surprise after surprise after surprise at ALL levels, but esepcially in the classics. Kinda farcical to be honest, but I'm sure the bookie boys absolutely love it. Yes, I know you can be one on here, but perfect markets with commission aren't the same as the big boys 130% overround. :D .... or the inside O'brien track - God knows who has that - I prmise you, it's not me.
Having put this out not long ago today they’ve supp’d Gasstd, really it’s not on all this story telling and talking crud.
From RTV
Last Updated: Sun 19 Apr 2026
Aidan O’Brien has suggested Puerto Rico could now be his number one contender for the Betfred 2000 Guineas,
O’Brien’s two other main Guineas hopes are Puerto Rico, who signed off his juvenile campaign with successive Group One wins in France, and Breeders’ Cup hero Gstaad, who like Albert Einstein would need to be supplemented to run at Newmarket at a cost of £30,000.
However, O’Brien has hinted he could instead head to ParisLongchamp for the French equivalent, moving Puerto Rico into pole position to run on May 2.
“Puerto Rico is there at the moment and obviously Gstaad is there as well. It is very possible that Puerto Rico could go to the Guineas and Gstaad could go to France,” O’Brien added.
“Puerto Rico has won his last two races in France and he is a pacey horse. Gstaad has run on lots of different tracks and is a very straightforward horse.
“We’re very happy with Puerto Rico. Last year he progressed with every run, we were very happy with the way he wintered and we’re very happy with everything he’s doing at the moment.”
Yet again like in the Derby last year you have horses from the same stable trading places in the market because of talk that shouldn’t be reported let alone given print space or air time. .
From RTV
Last Updated: Sun 19 Apr 2026
Aidan O’Brien has suggested Puerto Rico could now be his number one contender for the Betfred 2000 Guineas,
O’Brien’s two other main Guineas hopes are Puerto Rico, who signed off his juvenile campaign with successive Group One wins in France, and Breeders’ Cup hero Gstaad, who like Albert Einstein would need to be supplemented to run at Newmarket at a cost of £30,000.
However, O’Brien has hinted he could instead head to ParisLongchamp for the French equivalent, moving Puerto Rico into pole position to run on May 2.
“Puerto Rico is there at the moment and obviously Gstaad is there as well. It is very possible that Puerto Rico could go to the Guineas and Gstaad could go to France,” O’Brien added.
“Puerto Rico has won his last two races in France and he is a pacey horse. Gstaad has run on lots of different tracks and is a very straightforward horse.
“We’re very happy with Puerto Rico. Last year he progressed with every run, we were very happy with the way he wintered and we’re very happy with everything he’s doing at the moment.”
Yet again like in the Derby last year you have horses from the same stable trading places in the market because of talk that shouldn’t be reported let alone given print space or air time. .
Delashay • April 4, 2026 1:23 PM BST
MJK • March 29, 2026 1:24 PM BST
Think Aiden is a very decent man in general and a great trainer. This horse is clearly a sprinter but they were trying to make him a miler purely for the breeding end, like they try to make non stayers into Derby horses. I'm sure if Aiden wasn't under pressure from Magnier etc he'd run the horses where he thinks they should be running.
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We differ on that
MJK • March 29, 2026 1:24 PM BST
Think Aiden is a very decent man in general and a great trainer. This horse is clearly a sprinter but they were trying to make him a miler purely for the breeding end, like they try to make non stayers into Derby horses. I'm sure if Aiden wasn't under pressure from Magnier etc he'd run the horses where he thinks they should be running.
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We differ on that
Delashay • April 4, 2026 1:29 PM BST
You believe that they try to stretch them, I believe that they mislead punters.
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They knew Albert was never going to run in the Guineas, like they knew and I pointed out that The Lion In Winter had no hope of staying the Derby distance as they did for Delacroix too.
You believe that they try to stretch them, I believe that they mislead punters.
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They knew Albert was never going to run in the Guineas, like they knew and I pointed out that The Lion In Winter had no hope of staying the Derby distance as they did for Delacroix too.
Was at it again the man in shades 
Aidan O'Brien dark horse scratched from Derby as leading contenders stand their ground
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Denis Harney
Published on 5 May 2026inDerby festival
Last updated 13:13, 5 May 2026
Montreal was the shortest priced of those scratched from the Betfred Derby at the latest acceptance stage on Tuesday, while ante-post favourite Benvenuto Cellini is one of 41 entries to stand their ground.
After being described as a Derby dark horse by trainer Aidan O'Brien in March, Montreal's price contracted to 20-1 for the Classic, but he was one of seven, including Albert Einstein and Dorset, taken out of the race by O'Brien. Pierre Bonnard, Christmas Day and Hawk Mountain stand their ground for the trainer.
Stop keep reporting and telling lies to the public, it’s like listening to the Shamas Health Ministry
Aidan O'Brien dark horse scratched from Derby as leading contenders stand their ground
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Denis Harney
Published on 5 May 2026inDerby festival
Last updated 13:13, 5 May 2026
Montreal was the shortest priced of those scratched from the Betfred Derby at the latest acceptance stage on Tuesday, while ante-post favourite Benvenuto Cellini is one of 41 entries to stand their ground.
After being described as a Derby dark horse by trainer Aidan O'Brien in March, Montreal's price contracted to 20-1 for the Classic, but he was one of seven, including Albert Einstein and Dorset, taken out of the race by O'Brien. Pierre Bonnard, Christmas Day and Hawk Mountain stand their ground for the trainer.
Stop keep reporting and telling lies to the public, it’s like listening to the Shamas Health Ministry
Grow up,you gullible dipstick,Delbert.
He is not there to help the public
He is not there to help the public
agree , he is not here to help the public , but hes destroying horse racing as i recall it, ive stopped betting ante post becuase of coolmore and end of the day more peoples stop betting where will that lead to , horse racing imho will be dying like the greyhound scene
I agree,elis but it is the height of stupidity to take AOB's statements at face value'
A/P betting doesn't exist for me as I cannot get on even if I wanted to
A/P betting doesn't exist for me as I cannot get on even if I wanted to
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