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It’s actually hilarious that you have a market on here without potentially the full field!
It’s dirty AF! |
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'gravy-trainer journo' - can you narrow it down a bit as you have described all of them?
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Free publicity (or publicity costing not a lot to Cookmore).
We accidently took Albert Einstein out of the 2000 Guineas. We paid to supplement Albert Einstein into the 2000 Guineas because he is a superstar. |
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So my antepost bet on Albert Einstein is now scratched? i backed him after that poor run the weekend at big prices, what's the rules here. Is my money gone?.
Yes of course, if your horse doesnt run you have done your money. |
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... From what I gather the Horse is still entered, but on that showing his running in the race looks remote at best.
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Thought he was scratched yesterday in error and will cost £30k to supplement if they decide to supplement. As for lingbleed bet still stands IF he is supplemented.
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He wrote "Don't rush to judgement over Einstein" in The Sporting Life Plus citing Auguste Rodin and City Of Troy as his defence.
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He also said this:
When asked if he could work back from the Commonwealth Cup, O'Brien said: "Yes, that's very possible now. Obviously, we’ll go and talk to the lads and see what they want to do, but there is a very good chance that’s the route he’s going to go. "He will definitely have another run before the Commonwealth Cup. The sprinters are coming here [for a racecourse gallop] tomorrow – Charles Darwin, Brussels and a few others – they are all three-year-old sprinters as well and this fella will add into the mix there. This fella was always a bit different, but we'll see. |
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So he saying lots as ever to muddy the waters and add the element of doubt for punters, all fun and games for them instead of being straight.
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I hear David O'Mera will be taking over.
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No, he is being straight. The confusion comes from a disagreement between "the lads" and himself.
OK, straightish since I don't believe the computer glitch. |
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I’m not so trusting Ram to think that he is nor do I believe the glitch.
If you read that statement above it looks like the CC is the plan, so they plan to supp the horse for the Guineas as prep run for Ascot? |
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He’s also said this, be interesting to see who he’s on then come the day. I wonder if anyone backed Gstaad on the back of this report?
O'Brien added on Sunday: "Ryan was riding Gstaad this morning and he had it in his head that he could be the horse for Newmarket. Obviously, Puerto Rico is there, and we'll see how they come out of the work and see how Albert Einstein is as well. "I'd imagine Ryan picked to ride Gstaad because he's thinking of him for Newmarket, but we'll see how the next couple of weeks go." But he’s not paid to imagine anything, they talk and plan everything through, it’s talking but remaining vague. |
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Delashay: here is how I read it.
Aidan thinks he is a sprinter. Magnier wants to try for the Guineas just in case. There is no "the plan"; there are two different plans, and Aidan has been overruled but is trying to plot a course back to the Commonwealth Cup. Now for the computer glitch. Aidan took him out of the Guineas but was ordered to put him back in. The computer story is so that if Albert Einstein does win the Guineas, breeders will not remember he was taken out because of stamina doubts. Also if he does win the Guineas, he might suffer an unfortunate but trivial injury meaning he retires straight to stud without being asked to win another mile race in case he can't. Btw, amidst all my cynicism, remember the part they agree on which is that Albert Einstein is their best. |
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Thanks Ramruma for sharing your take on it and from the breeding angle it makes a lot of sense and what you think is going on within.
I’ll wait until I see him do it on the track as last season is still fresh in my mind when they talked up one but he failed to fire. One thing that bugs me is do they really have that amount of talent in this crop to have three different horses capable of winning the Coventry in the same year? Darwin was thought to be their runner in that, then in steps Gstaad and wins. The form of Albert through Andab doesn't yet match the talk and he has a lot of catching up to do with others who’ve done more on the track. That said he’s meant to be a massive horse weighing in at over 500+kilos so he will no doubt take a step forwards from that run, he’s the size of Illinois last seasonwhich seems hard to believe for a 3 year old. |
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Check this out:
"He's a horse who has always excited us and I'd say he still will," the trainer said. "I know what this horse is able to do. He's so big and when Ryan sat up on him he could not believe the width of him. He's 560kg going down into that ground. He's a lot bigger than the horses he was racing against, who are probably 460kg or 470kg. This guy is a monster and being that big in heavy ground is very difficult for him. As a punter I’ve long said that us public should know these weights, so I’d love to know how much he lost after that run?  This part from the same article sounds very much the same as what was cited after TLIW’s run in the Dante last year. We know next time out he flopped in a race over the wrong trip next time out. Can we expect the same? "I was happy with the way he behaved. He didn't do anything wrong, only that he was travelling a gear or two high, and then when he got tired he didn't fall in a hole, he kept plugging away. That will do his character the world of good. He got tired and he had to keep going." |
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Get the impression some people dont realise yet that the Titanic sank
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Great expression!
 There are some hoping that it’s not but remaining quiet. |
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plus why it's far too early to give up on Albert Einstein
Our Weekender columnist looks ahead Tom Segal Tipster MJK |
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Delashay • April 1, 2026 10:38 AM BST
Thanks Ramruma for sharing your take on it and from the breeding angle it makes a lot of sense and what you think is going on within. The form of Albert through Andab doesn't yet match the talk and he has a lot of catching up to do with others who’ve done more on the track. |
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Delashay • March 29, 2026 4:23 PM BST
Delashay • March 21, 2026 9:35 AM GMT There’s enough in the formlines through Andab to Albert to warrant taking him on, that and never having raced over further than 6f. Andab 5 runs 1 win 1 2nd 1 3rd 2/7 btn 2½L Rayif 9-1 6/10 btn 3¼L Zavateri 9-6 4/20 btn 3¾L Gstaad 9-3 3/6 btn 1½ Albert Einstein (Finished behind Do or Do Not twice amongst those races above so gives the form some look of being creditable) Been telling those Hugo that listened  |
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Ramruma • March 31, 2026 2:12 PM BST
"What has happened won't affect what we will be doing. They will stay on their programmes. At the moment, it looks like we are going to train Albert for the Guineas, and that has also been the plan for Gstaad. I'd imagine the lads will supplement them if we decide that's the thing to do." In other words, Aidan thinks Einstein is a sprinter but has been overruled by Magnier into having a crack at the Guineas. We’ll see how straight he was Ramruma those two with a programme and scratched are weak, whereas PRico is being cut now. Gassstd now out to 17 with PRico as low as 7/1 |
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“I'd imagine the lads will supplement them if we decide that's the thing to do."
Loves to add the cover despite it being a contradiction! Delashay • April 1, 2026 9:47 AM BST "I'd imagine Ryan picked to ride Gstaad because he's thinking of him for Newmarket, but we'll see how the next couple of weeks go." But he’s not paid to imagine anything, they talk and plan everything through, it’s talking but remaining vague. There were some feeling sorry for them having to pay a supp! Let’s see if it happens. 386 go a standout 10’s Gassstdt now. |
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Do you read other posts or do you just pretend others haven't been saying this and make out you've just thought of it?
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Feel free to show me where they have done so?
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I’ve been recording all of his talk, it’s all there, been questioning them and the story about this horse being their best.
MJK • April 4, 2026 11:25 AM BST Do you read other posts Here I read your post and replied MJK • April 1, 2026 11:45 AM BST Get the impression some people dont realise yet that the Titanic sank April 1, 2026 2:24 PM BST Great expression! There are some hoping that it’s not but remaining quiet. |
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Why dont you quote me from last Sunday on this thread re sprinting and breeding?
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Because it doesn’t match with what’s going on and hs been said by , “The very decent man…”
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Oh and time of course to trawl through
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MJK • March 29, 2026 1:24 PM BST
Think Aiden is a very decent man in general and a great trainer. This horse is clearly a sprinter but they were trying to make him a miler purely for the breeding end, like they try to make non stayers into Derby horses. I'm sure if Aiden wasn't under pressure from Magnier etc he'd run the horses where he thinks they should be running. We differ on that |
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You believe that they try to stretch them, I believe that they mislead punters.
You’ve called him a sprinter, I’ve said I never fancied it and given reasons why. You also have said the same about him the trainer and decent man being pressured to run him over the wrong trip by Magnier as Ramruma has also explained. If he lines up in the Guineas show me where he’s says, before the race that this horse is a sprinter, don’t back it. I don’t ever recall him being so straight with people. |
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So to sum it up you’ve said he’s a sprinter, I’ve questioned if he ever really was their number one? Two different conversations and viewpoints.
I don’t back horses for the Guineas who haven’t run over further than 6f as a 2 yr old. |
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You do realise my Titanic reference? You quote another poster after I said basically the same thing about sprinting and breeding two days earlier.
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And called him a sprinter the day after he ran on the 28th, quoting the other poster Ramruma is showing that I’ve read others comments.
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So what’s your issue?
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I’d said before Andab ran yesterday and before Albert ran that his form was nothing special and didn’t match the hype!
All that IS clear. |
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If AE wins the 2000G at Newmarket I'd walk from Cheam to Ballydoyle with the owner's permission, of course. Only the egos of his connections will take him there, neither potential nor proven stamina.
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Delashay • April 4, 2026 1:49 PM BST
And called him a sprinter the day after he ran on the 28th, quoting the other poster Ramruma is showing that I’ve read others comments. Delashay • April 4, 2026 1:50 PM BST So what’s your issue? |
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Been carrying it since then?
 When I pointed out that you’d waited until the day after Albert ran to declare him a sprinter? And because I’ve criticised your fav trainer in Anti! |
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MJK • April 11, 2026 4:46 PM BST
Dela dont be trying to deflect. I asked a simple question but perhaps, just perhaps, you're not as clever as you try to be on here Is this your intelligence test? MJK • April 4, 2026 1:40 PM BST You do realise my Titanic reference? You know where the Black Star Liner was going to take those who got onboard? |