delashay ,i probably could have put more thought into my reply  (lets not discuss it till the markets /prices are formed properly in the morning ) there are reasons for that , firstly i always just glance at  the cards for a possible suitable race for a betting opportunity  number of runners and class of race , there are 2  possibles at saint cloud the group 3 and the listed .......reason 1 . previously i have found  that if i look into  a race too early ie before the markets are formed properly ( its all about price  and i am not  interested in anything under 10/1 )  the night before tissue is nothing like the nearer the off market  and i dont want to form an opinion then find the horse i think could be a betting  opportunity  is under the price i am happy to take , reason 2 why am i putting them up late ie 5 or 10 mins from the off ?  bfsp plays a part in that , you are right to point out the ...opinions encouraged points it dosent give enough time for most to leave an opinion  so i will just put up a thread and leave the opinions encouraged bit out .

Thanks Foyles and fair enough, I’m glad that you nabbed that one and wish you luck too. Was just disappointed that you didn’t join the discussion and bounce ideas as you’re a lot like me in that we don’t play the favs and we look beyond the top of the market.

Thanks for the laugh, was funny to see you and Irons, two enemies united an on my case!