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Imagine the Eggheads being one Egghead. The strength of the Eggheads, is that they have different areas of expertise and recognise their respective strengths to get as many questions right as possible, even allowing for the fact that Kevin is prolly stronger than any other two Eggheads put together.
Trump is only an Egghead in self publicity and arguably real estate, and has no expertise in any other area. Over time, he's got less and less Eggheads in the building steering him as best they can towards sensible decisions, as he values sycophantic pandering to Egghead expertise. |
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So cider do you think that the wikipedia explantion of Cabinet collective responsibility is inaccurate? Where is it wrong?
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I didn't say it was wrong. But citing wikipedia as evidence is laughable, it can be written by anyone.
Nothing in it explains why Starmer would change his intended policy based on the influence of other cabinet members. |
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big dunc • March 17, 2026 12:21 PM GMT
The US navy doesn't have a ship within 700kms of the straight of Hormuz, Trump knows it will be a duck shoot for the Irainians so now he wants other countries navies to go there, haha yet we have clowns on here wanting Starmer to send our boys to certain death Who wants that Duncs? This guy and his “Coalition of the Willing” wants to send our troops to Peace keep in the Ukraine! Anyone actually think that that’s a good idea?! His decision making is all over the place!  |
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Maybe you’ve all forgotten about that ill fated idea and plan?
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Trump is certainly no Churchill. Churchill served on the Western Front. Trump made up a fake injury to avoid military service.
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Lesser cowards than Trump were executed during The Great War
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Trump is a brave politician, unlike the crab we have currently representing us.
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Let’s not forget that this great leader cares about the human rights of terror groups!
He cares nothing for , “Our Boys” he wants to put them on trial for things done in war years back. They’ll have a lot of trouble with recruiting because of that and I suspect those still in the Armed Forces hate this muppet. |
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So who’s for peace keeping in Ukraine?
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Cider • March 17, 2026 1:43 PM GMT
I didn't say it was wrong. But citing wikipedia as evidence is laughable, it can be written by anyone Everything you read is written by "anyone". And in this case the "anyone" has provided an accurate description, which I chose to quote with the source. Nothing in it explains why Starmer would change his intended policy based on the influence of other cabinet members. I'm not sure what precisely you are referring to, but at the extreme, if the PM has an idea entirely unsupported by any other cabinet member, that idea is going to die the death very quickly. |
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Many people who faked injury in The Great War were executed as cowards. These were people who were brave enough to sign up in the first place.
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Everything you read is written by "anyone". And in this case the "anyone" has provided an accurate description, which I chose to quote with the source.
Obviously, has anybody on there defined obtuse? wikipedia can be written by anybody, and nobody knows who it is! maybe you got a degree before the internet existed, maybe you never got a degree. try citing wikipedia in a dissertation or uni submission. you could equally try twatter, reddit or the betfair forum  |
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Netanyahu served in the IDF for 5 years. He's brave. Trump nah
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There’s 1,300 KM of a line of contact with Russia in the Ukraine
Good luck with defending that Europe!  |
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Shat has hit the fan in the US as Pumps Terror Advisor has resigned saying that there was NO I’m imminent threat from Iran!
Says he can’t go along with the war and that Israel pressed Pump into it!  Oh dear! |
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Cider, what do you think the numbers are beside the info on wikipedia?
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Mental age of its readers. Or alternatively, hot links to source information that people quoting from wikipedia should be using instead.
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Netanyahu:
Major Operations: Participated in numerous raids during the 1967–70 War of Attrition, including the Battle of Karameh (1968) and the raid on Lebanon (1968). Wounded in Action: He was shot in the shoulder during the rescue of Hijacked Sabena Flight 571 in May 1972. Yom Kippur War (1973): Returned from the United States to fight in the Yom Kippur War as a reservist. Family Connection: His brother, Yonatan Netanyahu, was killed leading the 1976 Entebbe rescue mission Trump Donald Trump received a medical deferment for bone spurs in his heels in 1968. In 2019 congressional testimony, Trump's former lawyer, Michael Cohen, stated under oath that Trump had acknowledged to advisors he "made up a fake injury to avoid military service, because 'I wasn't going to Vietnam'". When asked for medical records, Trump provided none and said there was no surgery. Donald Trump has been accused of rape, sexual assault, and sexual harassment, including non-consensual kissing or groping, by at least 28 women since the 1970s The New York Times has reported that President Donald Trump received a minimum of $413 million from his father over the years, much of it through questionable tax evasions, including outright fraud. Brave scores out of 10 Netanyahu 9/10 Trump 0/10 |
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Joe Kent, a former political candidate with connections to right-wing extremists and the director of the National Counterterrorism Center, announced his resignation on Tuesday, citing his concerns about the justification for military strikes in Iran and saying he “cannot in good conscience” back the Trump administration’s war.
Kent said on social media that Iran “posed no imminent threat to our nation, and it is clear that we started this war due to pressure from Israel and its powerful American lobby.” Joe Kent: By September 2003, following his training, Kent was deployed to Iraq, where he fought in the First Battle of Fallujah, and searched for Iraqi officials. He served eleven combat tours including deployments in Yemen and north Africa before retiring. |
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Delashay & Cider certainly have their opinions on SKS and truth be told he certainly aint covered himself in glory with gaffs galore since becoming PM but that's irrelevant on this matter.The idiot who caused all this mess is Tango Trump aided by his partner in crime Netanyahu. Yes Iran is a despicable regime but the current regimes of USA and Israel are hardly paragons of virtue either. DO we need another IRAQ circa 2003 onwards where british lives were lost needlessly? no we dont!
As mentioned above by another poster this is USA & Israels mess, so its for them to rectify the mess they have made including resolving the SOH blockage. |
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It doesn't matter how much evidence there is that Trump is a complete fraud, and a completely odious individual, who continually spouts BS, his base supporters never falter.
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It's not a mess, magnum. Obviously that's the narrative the legacy media want to portray, as they will try to undermine anything Trump is involved with.
I've asked several times on here for people who are proponents of Starmer's positive actions in regard to Iran, and as yet there is only tumbleweed. As deleshay has outlined, Starmer already committed our troops to go into Ukraine. |
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If Starmer has done something positively good in regard to the activity in Iran, explicitly what is it ?
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Cider17 Mar 26 15:00Joined: 29 Aug 02 | Topic/replies: 67,747 | Blogger: Cider's blog
If Starmer has done something positively good in regard to the activity in Iran, explicitly what is it ? He has kept us out of it. It is not our fight and it is an illegal war. In fact, lets go to 7 December 1941. "A day which will live in infamy" as per FDRs speech on 8 December 1941. Japan attacked Pearl Harbour before declaring war. (though they did actually try, but the Japanese ambassador was deliberately kept waiting) This was a very important propaganda coup and gave the US the moral high ground for everything that came after. Now roll forward to 2026 - The US have attacked thousands of sites in Iran, killed their leader, wounded his successor, killed thousands of Iranian military and civilians, sunk their destroyer returning from an international naval exercise, watched their sailors drown, and still have not declared war, all on the whim of their president who "had a feeling Iran was going to attack", and found he could go to war without consulting Congress, by not actually declaring war. Oh, but they attacked our Sovereign base area in Cyprus. Well yes they did, but actually they attacked the American installations there, as has been reported by a number of sources, and then several days later, we find that missile was launched from Lebanon. Luck or intelligent targeting? Intelligent targeting imo. Then theres the "shame" of Spain, France and Greece defending Cyprus before we can. Well actually Cyprus is an EU member (unlike us), is 50% Greek, and Spain and France are a hell of a lot closer that we are, so no surprises there then. Also HMS Dragon was having an engine refit, so what do you want us to do? Tow it there? You also ask about Marines going to Norway. This happens every year for Exercise Cold Response. Our Royal Marines are expert in Arctic warfare. Nothing unusual, nothing sinister, nothing to see here apart from a red herring. Trump is now openly talking about attacking Cuba. Where does it end for this holder of the FIFA peace prize? |
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TRUMP just said live from the Whitehouse
IRAN were 2 weeks away from having a nuclear bomb 12 months in Whitehouse in a live prezza,TRUMP said he,d put back irans nuclear ambitions by around 30 yrs the bloke,s a moron who need,s sectioning and anyone backing him should be in the cell next door , trump thinks asylum seekers have escaped from mental institutions trump thinks an INCURSION in to IRAN for example is an EXCURSION on a charrabang trump yesterday thought nursing homes were nurseries full of little kids he,s just said after starting an illegal war the security adviser he appointed is an idiot who,s not very good at security advice he,s an absolute weapons grade moron with the brain of a 5 yr old, anyone treating him as a sane adult is a member of the cult apologies to any 5 yr olds out there |
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His devotees believe everything he says 1tp.
It makes you wonder once again how stupid his average supporter is. But when you think about it, if that applies to the average devotee, half his supporters are even more stupid than that. |
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Iran has repeatedly threatened other countries, mostly Israel and that alone is enough to wipe that regime off the face of the earth.
Btw reg,Iraq was Shia majority under Saddam but he ran propaganda suggesting it was a Sunni majority, his party was so called socialist and supposedly secular. His big thing was Arab unity but it did not involve the Shia or more likely just not under the Ayatolla. At end of day very few understand the history of the tribes, saddam was an evil dictator on one hand but on another introduced free health care and woman's rights, problem is that neck of woods is a graveyard for ideaolgy. Whilst the merkans helped Iraq they also sold weapons to Iran in the contra scandal. Pretty fckd up imo and whilst saddam went rogue and merkan led coalition invaded, they stopped short and let them off hook, never went into Baghdad. That always puzzled me, why didn't they go in? That aside I hope the Iranian people can get control and the country can prosper. The oil price can go as high as it likes, sooner the transition away from it the better and a high price will keep the renewables top of energy policy for a any sane thinking uk mp. |
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As for USA and UK relations, one min starmer is flying out to hand deliver a royal invitation then appointing mandy and now not backing merka.
It's like summit out of a carry on film, in fact starmer is a joke figure and will never be statesman like, just making it up as he goes along, never sounds convincing and all the alternatives are scary. Were pretty much been fckd over by the two party system although the Conservatives done far more than Labour ever will for ordinary folk. Starmer will be easy to forget, will fade to gray quicker than a rat up a drainpipe. |
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The Iranians went to Zurich ready for a deal but it seems the Isreali lacks in the room (Kush and wit) had been instructed by their gov to turn everything down. They didn't even take scientists to explain the nuclear stuff!
The right have and are now very much making themselves look very stupid win this and shows just how much they jump despite the orange fool obv having no plan for anything especially Hormuz etc. Maga is ripping itself apart over this! |
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Unfortunately, that caused the weakening of Iraq, which in turn promoted the strengthening of Iran.
..Sunni v Shia stuff No No it isn't at all and this stupidness is at the heart of 'the rights' issue here. Iran is Shia (go and read about Zoroastrianism) while Saudi is Sunni - Iraq is both with shia Maj but the Baath were Sunni and in charge. We didn't know who the f to support and ended up with Bush's mess. Can I remind you that Trump didn't even try to lie and make sheet up - he's just said he had a feeling and started the war. Iran was/is nowhere near a nuclear bomb. The right really needs to take a look at what Trump and his acolytes actually say happened (to do with everything not just this!) and decide if these people are sane! |
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Magnum I do have my opion on him and have never said let’s go join in on this campaign, I don’t like his continual fear of upsetting people.
That fear rules over any morals he might have. JRAS I’m aware that they are trained in Artic warfare, the report that I heard said that they had been deployed for safety, it didn’t mention any training, I’ve just relayed what I heard. No mention on the Russian ship off of our coast. That we only have one boat to send to Cyprus is a shambles as is putting ex soldiers on trial. |
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It’s quite funny that Starmer has so many fans out there, he’s basically fallen into the position that he’s in on this situation by default!
We were never asked to join the attack from the start! He actually made no choice on that. Yes he chose not to let the US use the bases, I think that that’s wrong. Why? Because he’s actually allowing it now so another U Turn that was unnecessary for the sake of relations. Do I trust Pump to stand by us? No he’s shown with Ukraine that he’s willing to move the goal posts at any time. |
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A good day for Starmer the buffoon yesterday. He's beyond a parody of himself.
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He took 'not answering the question' to another level. The Speaker's not fit for purpose.
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No different from all Tango Mans sycophants squirming when asked awkward questions Yesterday.
Tango Man's way out of his depth now imo, praying the Iranians rise up against the Clerics, can't see that happening anytime soon. |
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Starmer is an embarrassment, but that's ok, coz coz coz coz Trump
 ffs is that the best you can do |
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No need to any better as I don't think he is an embarrassment, at least how he has conducted himself during the illegal war.
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GLASGOWCALLING • March 19, 2026 1:06 PM GMTNo need to any better as I don't think he is an embarrassment, at least how he has conducted himself during the illegal war. I have a cork for that hole in your head Glasg! Like the caveat to your full support of the worst PM ever! …” at least how he has conducted himself during the illegal war.” |