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Andrew,
You changed the gender of K Ying.... from female in para 1 to male in para 2. The tips/lays could do with a bit of polishing too  . | ||||||||
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Good afernoon Guys,
PHS Female/male was simply down to a lack of concentration on my part and i rarely check the content once it's typed. As for Sundays 2 selections, i hold my hands up, no excuses at all. The lay (11/8f) was going for a 5th win on the bounce and did it well to be fair, but was always a risky bet as i intimated. Atlantic Power was well supported late on (5/2) but didn't finish the race. I suspect trying to go with pace set by the leader didn't help and they were both PU along with another, the front 4 places being those who raced from the rear. Having said that i doubt anything would have beaten the winner however the race was run. Roll on Cheltenham  The Dealer I wasn't aware you had another fllly, i remember Slainte Mhath who i guess is retired now ?. Looks to have a similar profile to ours, good luck with her. Our next run is envisaged for late March (AW) and we're happy with her opening mark of 50. Her first run on turf could be several weeks after this. I doubt she will turn out as good as Salamanca Lad, who is racing (and winning) in Bahrain now, but you can never tell with lightly raced fillies once the penny drops and they go handicapping. Fingers crossed to both of us. Good luck and have a nice Wednesday all. | ||||||||
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What a couple of numpties we are Andrew, how did we get it so wrong.
stewarts rise20 Feb 26 19:49 It would be disastrous if ran and fell in CH if got injured or worse, i wouldn't want to risk it, hopefully get some nice races on Flat but who knows. Andrew-In-Sweden Andrew-In-Sweden20 Feb 26 19:52 I will be surprised if Nicky runs him at Cheltenham, irespective of how easily he won earlier. slickster slickster20 Feb 26 20:08 Err of course he runs in the champion. What else are you expecting??? Be it right or wrong he runs. | ||||||||
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Just for information our current horses with Jane Williams are:
Javert Allen Knight of Allen Lancelot Allen Merlin Allen Excelero Naxos Allen (unraced) It's impossible to get a really good horse on the Flat (imo) | ||||||||
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Good morning Guys,
Stewarts ´ I always thought he would never run in the CH, more so after the Southwell race. I suspect he will go to Newbury next as i mentioned here before. Isleham Quite a squad, good luck. Ownership at my level is simply for fun and as you say it's difficult to get a good one, but i've been lucky, my 3 previous ones all won, in fact Salamanca Lad ran up a hat trick and was only just beaten in another. A good day out with mates, plenty of banter, owners perks and dinner/drinks in the evening all add to the experience. Pushed for time as i'm travelling, but the first lay post to come. One i did think was an EW bet is Holloway Boy at Meydan (4.00). Ran well in a G1 over CD in his penultimate race and could reverse form (3 runs ago) with Quddwah over this longer trip. Buick and stall 2 are both positives Good luck and have a nice Saturday all. | ||||||||
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Kefir d'Oudairies - 3.05 Doncaster A 6 year old Seahenge gelding trained by Olly Murphy in Stratford Upon Avon. First foal from an unraced mare. Lightly raced maiden over hurdles, winner of a bumper at Fakenham albeit basically a match. Similar run in a maiden hurdle in his penultimate race, but again it was a match with 2 of the 7 runner field not finishing and the 3 behind him were basically tailed off. Finished 4th of 5 on the same course LTO where the favourite didn't jump well at all. Prone to errors and may act better on a sharp course. Up in class. Lay @ 3.20 Good luck all. | ||||||||
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Thank you ANDREW
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WD AIS , good to have the Saturday lay back, easy.
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Thank you ANDREW easy peasy
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Thanks as always AIS, it actually went odds on in running but finished a distance fourth.
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Good morning Guys,
Many thanks for the posts, appreciated as always. Good to start the belated lay posts this year with an unplaced favourite, Kefir d'Oudairies and although racing prominently and going odds-on IR, didn't appear to be the likely winner approaching the last flight where he was one paced and finished 4th, beaten 18.5L. I was surprised at the eventual SP of 11/8, i didn't see him that short. Lightly raced so may win in future, but may have to drop in class to do so. The EW selection Holloway Boy at Meydan was another well backed (4/1) considering he was 7/1 with a few books in the morning. The slow pace was a farce (slowest time of the meeting) and resulted in a 2 furlong sprint, although to be fair probably didn't suit any of the field, including the winner Quddwah. Holloway Boy was caught flat footed and ran on well, but i doubt it made any difference to the result, he was simply beaten by a better horse. On to this aftenoon and nothing jumps off the page, backing or laying, at least in GB. Regular readers know i follow the French racing, albeit primarily the flat, although i did to go Auteuil to watch II Est Francais run there in November 2024. The same trainer, one of my NH favourites over there runs a potential half-decent juvenile on the course (4.00) this afternoon, Novak, a two raced maiden, but only beaten by the likes of Narciso Has (1.5L) and the ill-fated Precious Man (a head). The latter form has been franked by the winner again (at Kempton) and the 3rd, 5th and 7th have also won since. Making his 2026 debut, but the stable can get them ready to run. No odds available, but any odds against is a bet. Our ex-syndicate horse Calibos makes his hurdle debut in the opener at Huntingdon this afternoon, will be interesting to see how he get on for his new Swindon based trainer, but i will not be going even though i'm currently in the south of England; sadly for a family bereavement service on Tuesday. We get updates from the one of the ex-owners who purchased a share for his wife as she adores him (the horse  ) it was either that or buy the horse and let her keep it in the garden as a pet.  Good luck and have a nice Sunday all. | ||||||||
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Thanks for the update and your thoughts AIS, much appreciated. I see your ex-syndicate horse Calibos is available at 110/1 on Betfair, from that I assume he isn't fancied. With regard to Novak he is actually a shade over even money on Betfair so may be worth a wager.
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Thank you ANDREW G/L
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Laurent has tipped this providing the same insights.
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Correct bettysboy, the form is there for everyone to see (he didn't mention Narcisco Has) but i would have posted it regardless. Good luck
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GL AIS as I had already backed it too
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Calibos finished 4th in the opener SP 125/1. A few of us backed first 4 places, although mine was only a fun stake.
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Gazza, apologies, i didn't see your post earlier. He wasn't really fancied and any bets by us were probably only for sentiment, but looks like a decent run and should obviously come on for the run. I'm in a Nero coffee shop and the signal is a bit sketchy, but i will watch later. I've also seen we have a jockey interview video.
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Hi Andrew,
Slainte Mhath chipped a bone in her knee in her last race. Wasn't life threatening but after the operation, the vets advised against racing again. The hope is to breed off her but she isn't the most straight forward in her stable or with people, they will need a bravery award to get her covered. She is happy at the stud and being out in the fields. Also kept my share in Falaise Blanc, he won a race, 2 seconds, 2 thirds and 3 unplaced for us last year. He will have a run at Newcastle before heading to the flat turf. He is a bit of a slow boat but he tries, is versatile trip and ground, he should give us loads of fun this year. | ||||||||
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Good afternoon Guys,
My first post on this thread since 1st March, unfortunately, due to passing away of 2 younger siblings in less than 7 weeks, neither of whom had been ill, so very distressing for the family. Obviously over the initial shock, but we all know grieving takes time. A 4 day weekend for Easter so at least i have some free time to post and watch some racing. Too many events to play catch-up with, but in short i had an OK Cheltenham, albeit very few bets, an AP on the Supreme winner (2/1) being the highlight and ensured a winning week. In another year, it could have been very profitable as several i follow including Lossiemouth, II Etait Temps and Gaelic Warrior went unbacked and all won. Our syndicate 3 year old filly Lady Of Clover made her handicap debut at Wolverhampton on 24th March, running well to finish 3rd (12/1) after looking a likely winner off the bend for a few moments. This was much improved, although we sort of expected improvement after 3 'soft' runs. I can't comment too much out of respect for my fellow owners, but she is expected to make her turf debut later this month, the course already decided. On the subject of syndicate runners, one of our previous Salamanca Lad finished runner-up at Bahrain yesterday, a £44K race, with almost £15K for second place taking his total prize money to over £47K. Ironically, he was beaten by a Dan and Claire Kübler runner (they used to train him). Not bad for a horse that cost us 12K at the HIT sales, maybe we should have kept him. I was at Ascot last Sunday (family day on Friday) with a couple of guys i meet often enough, but backing 3 that finished 2nd in chilly, blustery and damp conditions could have been better, but a good afternoon with the guys nevertheless, ending up in a pub in Staines. On to this afternoon, only 3 meetings although a half decent card at Newcastle. One i thought could win on the card is the Ian Williams trained Beylerbeyi (4.42) winner of the Cesarewitch last year. Hasn't won since in 3 runs (3-2-2) but all over a shorter distance and maybe connections had this race in mind. A decent field and i expect him to be running on strongly late on. I have a lay selection at the Curragh, but will post separately. The Dealer Thank you for the ownership update, good luck with both of yours. Good luck and have a nice Easter Friday all. | ||||||||
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Chasing Paradise - 2.32 Curragh A 3 year old Churchill filly trianed by Johnny Murtagh in County Kildare. Once raced as a 2 year old, finishing 2nd in a 8f Leopardstown maiden, but well beaten (7L) by a AOB filly who had run 4 times previously. Wasn't fancied going off at 25/1. The form is difficult to evaluate as none of the field have run since, but it didn't appear to have much depth. Up in trip this afternoon (10) and heavy going is expected. I often lay fillies in these typical maidens, there's any amount of improvement in the field that is very lightly raced, and no knowing how they have wintered. Chablis Rock has run well enough on heavy, but there are 4 or 5 other potential winners. The stable has been slow to start 0/18 in past 14 days. Could be a risky lay, but the odds are short enough and i'm content with my selection. Lay @ 2.96 Good luck all. | ||||||||
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Thank you ANDREW G/L
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Sorry to read of your loss of 2 siblings in a short space of time Andrew, that's hard to take and as you say grieving takes time. Best wishes you're old enough and strong enough to cope.
Good luck with your lay, Johnny Murtagh hasn't had any winners as yet but has had 9 placed including seven 3 yos if i've counted right, his 1st winner may be near but hopefully not this one and it's short enough as you say. | ||||||||
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condolences andrew ,good luck
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Sorry to hear your sad news AIS
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Sorry to hear of your sad loss. I hope better times are ahead.
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Thanks for your thought , sympathies to yourself and your family on your recent bereavements.
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Jeez AIS, sorry for your loss.
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From one Bristolian to another, so sorry to read about your horrendous last few months..
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Good morning Guys,
Many thanks for the condolence posts, as Stewart mentioned it's hard to take in, but i experienced grieving in 2011 and 2012 with my parents, as we do do in life. Travelling on Thursday afternoon for the Cremation service in Buckinghamshire on Friday, but 3 days free thereafter before returning home. Jerseyboy< Not exactly Bristolian, Cornish born and bred, but we moved to Bedminster when i was 11 (my dad went to work at BAC Filton as it was then). Fond memories and a lifelong 'Robins' supporter. The lay post selection didn't go as i envisaged pre-race and drifted in the betting, at least on here (BSP 3.77). Always in the front rank and it looked ominous when the favourite took over 2f out and the first two pulled well clear of the field. Won relatively easy in the end, but what he beat is open to question as the 3rd placer was 18L back and the winning time was almost 18 seconds slow compared to standard. No excuses though and i move on. Easter Monday and 7 meetings to find a winner, but even allowing for a couple of graded races at Fairyhouse, i didn't see anything that really caught my eye. If i do have a win bet, it would only be Kawaboomga (3.50 Fairyhouse) and not a large stake anyway. Has raced in decent company since arriving from France and looked to have a future after beating William Munney in a maiden back in January 2025 and ran as well as could have been expected after almost 13 months off the track LTO. Steps up in trip that may suit. In the Irish Grand National on the same card (5.00) you could pick a handful and still not get the winner, but i thought the James Owen trained One Big Bang could run a decent race at an EW price. Lightly raced over fences and finished 3rd in the National Hunt Cup at the Cheltenham festival last month. A tentative selection at best, but at the odds of 22.0 for the win and 4.0 for 5/TBP is worth a small bet for an interest. Further afield, the worlds best sprinter, Ka Ying Rising made it 19 wins on the spin at Sha Tin earlier this morning, a tremendous record and is probably unbeatable over 6f and 7f. Backers are not getting rich, he's been 1/20 in 8 of his last 9 races. Even money for his primary target, the Everest in October, a race he won last year, could look value on the day. Unfortunately, Royal Ascot racegoers will not get the chance to see him this year and it was never really an option anyway, but Australian sprinter Joliestar who won the TJ stakes at Randwick on Saturday is coming over and will probably run in the Jubilee. Our syndicate 3 year old filly Lady Of Clover was pencilled in for her first on turf later this month, but George Scott feels she needs more experience and is entered at Southwell on Thursday (5.25). Good luck and have a nice Easter Monday all. 2026 Lay P/L Status
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Brother Boris - 4.35 Fakenham A 7 year old Jack Hobbs gelding trained by Lucy Wadham in Newmarket. Didn't show much in 3 hurdle runs and a bumper, but has improved over fences with a record of 2-1-2 from 9 runs, the wins coming in 2 previous race after dropping in the ratings to 88 and 94 respectively from a high of 100. The wins may look good as form figures, but in his penultimate race at this course there was an initial field of 8, subsequently reduced to 5 with 3 x NR's and only 2 finished. He returned to the course to win in another small field of 3, but again only 2 finished and it appeared the runner-up folded tamely after jumping issues. Made the running in both wins, but will be take on by a couple today including Cloudy Wednesday who is going for a hat-trick after winning this race in 2024 and 2025. The handicapper wasn't overly impressed, only raising him 2lb for the previous win. Might prefer going to be on the softer side. Carries top weight, but this is reduced by the jockey claim. It appears to be a tightly knit handicap with all four runners in with a chance. Obviously a risky lay, the form horse and an in-form stable, but i think he will not get his own way out in front this afternoon. He's short enough at 5/4 and i don't see him as the winner. Lay @ 2.54 Good luck all. | ||||||||
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Missed the race, went very short IR, did Boris have a fall late on? All count though Andrew.
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I didn't see IR betting, but i'm surprised if he went short. As expected, he didn't get his own way up front and raced in last place, never closer, a mistake at the 11th and was pushed along soon after. PU before the 3rd last fence. | ||||||||
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Good afternoon Guys,
A successful lay post yesterday, always good to get a shortie beaten although it did drift late on. A trio of meetings in England, although nothing to get excited about, but the Deauville card in France looks promising with a couple of entries from our shores and a listed race. In the Prix Djeebel (2.40) the likely favourite Samagan from the powerful Francis Graffard stable is going for a 4 timer and may be hard to beat; clearly the form horse winning a couple of group races (3 and 2) last season. A decent field and a few with untapped potential, one of them is my fancy is Take Me On who made a good impression on the course last season when winning his only race. Drops down a furlong that shouldn't be an issue. In-form trainer and jockey who is one of the best over there, i think he's a win and 3/TBP bet. Liquidity is dire on here for early season French racing at this time of the day, but a best priced 13/2 with the books. Good luck and have a nice Tuesday all. 2026 Lay P/L Status
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Thank you ANDREW G/L
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Jonbon - 2.55 Sandown A 10 year old Walk In The Park gelding trained by Nicky Henderson. A multiple graded race winner with an incredible record of never finishing outside the front 2 in 22 runs and a 1-1-2 record in this race. I don't need to depict his form as i normally do with lay posts, we all know it, so i will concentrate on reasoning. Jonbon beat Thistle Ask at Ascot in the latters last run, but that was over 17f that suited him bringing his stamina into play on soft going over a course where he is unbeaten in 4 runs. Has won since over further, but todays trip is 1.5f less than at Ascot and on summer going, both of which will suit the Skelton horse more. There's a risk that Solness and Thistle Ask with go off like a couple of proverbial scolded cats, but i don't see this occurring. Sure, the Irish runner will make the running, but i think Harry will sit in 2nd not wanting to force the pace with him. I wouldn't mind if Solness did build a healthy lead anyway, he certainly has the ability to win and even Mirabad is not out of it. Jonbon has been one of my favourite chasers in recent years, but i feel today will be his finale after getting beaten due to trip, going and a sense that he's not the chaser of old. Lay @ 2.74 Good luck all. | ||||||||
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And here I was thinking it was my best bet today
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Tanglefoot, it's all about opinions and we all get it right and wrong. Good luck.
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Yes it’s about opinions,but my radar has been short circuiting lately
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Jonbon a NR unlucky Andrew I wanted to lay him myself
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