Stewards Wetherby

horse it hmp being 3rd will save it.

Not to see, had to go round the last, not Eric's fault is it

Had to go past the hurdle.

Yeah placed 3rd In these conditions, but the winner ran anything but straight, crossed over path at least twice.

Not sure it would’ve won

cynical stuff from the fptp rider

Late interference very little to do with the omission of the last.  Eric wandering around like a drunken duck.  As Rico says, favourite finishing second will drive the decision.

ItsMeSwaddle 22 Jan 26 14:06 
Not to see, had to go round the last, not Eric's fault is it


pmsl..its drifted 15yds right.

Actually think this could be overturned and placed 3rd here, you can’t wander around like that impeding the horse in 3rd so many times. Regardless if your horse is tired. U wasn’t the strongest stayer

In the old days winner slung out and placed last.

If 3rd was 2nd it would go judging on momentum 3rd had

few yr ago they disq a gosden winner at southwell that hmp the 3rd..was overtuned on appeal and they aint disq a winner since that hmp a placed horse and made the 2nd that wasnt involved the winner..so rico says unless they changed this situation will stand.

1.4 to keep looks big to me

1.4 seems generous about FPF

To be fair to Swaddle, perhaps he did not watch the end of the race

Will keep, bloody hope so or it’s a grand down drain!

Jockey done everything in power, horse was tired and had to be switched round, fact other only finished 3rd seals it, unaltered

The jockey saw her coming and steered into the rail.

Meant to add, managed to lay 3rd past post at 170?! In what world can it be awarded race? Free money surely!

third wouldn't get by if they went around again

He shouldn't have cut her off then lol

Kira, it cannot be awarded the race.  However this is not the point of any discussion on here.

Jumped well and straight,shame if that's thrown because of the
omitted hurdle.

More the problem after the omitted hurdle imo

blackbarn 22 Jan 26 14:21 
Kira, it cannot be awarded the race.

it can if they revert back to their rule 3 yr ago.

taking far too long imo

being swept

It was running around like it had no oxygen left in it, would fallen over if it was allowed

it was dozens of yards after they had gone passed the bypassed hurdle. he blatantly sees her and goes right hand down. the rules obviously favour the winner

Jan 22, 2026 -- 8:06AM, ItsMeSwaddle wrote:

Not to see, had to go round the last, not Eric's fault is it

Yep well done, summary spot on.

Good riding too forgot to mention that earlier.

Result Stands

Blackbarn, if it being backed in the stewards then it’s everything to do with it!

imv they need to tweak the rules, the way they are written it's pretty impossible to demote the winner behind the third. but no way should jockeys be able to benefit from the choice he made there

Jan 22, 2026 -- 2:06PM, ItsMeSwaddle wrote:
Not to see, had to go round the last, not Eric's fault is it

it still drifted 15yds right after they bypassed the last hurdle though.

the winner cudnt be disq unless they reverted to their ideology of a few yr ago..who knows what the clowns will do these daze.

Kira2122 Jan 26 14:23Joined: 23 May 25 | Topic/replies: 9 | Blogger: Kira21's blog
Blackbarn, if it being backed in the stewards then it’s everything to do with it!

I was referring to the rules as currently interpreted.  By the way, post your lay!!

2.4k it would of cost me if reversed.  gotta love the stewards

I dont think ive ever seen you have a loser

Swaddle - He'll post his bet to show you though.

I know...I dont think ive ever seen him back a loser I said

I thought can i take a 2.4k hit???? hell yeah i,m loaded.  yee haa let it ride grandma!!!!

Git up

ItsMeSwaddle22 Jan 26 14:23Joined: 19 Oct 15 | Topic/replies: 13,019 | Blogger: ItsMeSwaddle's blog
Jan 22, 2026 -- 2:06PM, ItsMeSwaddle wrote:Not to see, had to go round the last, not Eric's fault is it

Yep well done, summary spot on. Good riding too forgot to mention that earlier.

"good riding" = Macey suspended for 2 days for careless riding.

Here is the full report...............

An enquiry was held to consider the placings in this race after interference on the run to the line involving the winner, ERIC CARMEN (IRE), ridden by Benjamin Macey and IONITY (FR), placed third, ridden by Isabel Williams. Being a 7lb claiming conditional, Macey was accompanied in the enquiry by a senior rider. The Stewards considered that the interference had not improved ERIC CARMEN (IRE)’s placing as although IONITY (FR) was carried off its intended line and became briefly crowded for room ERIC CARMEN (IRE) always looked to be holding the third past the post and appeared to be extending the margin between them going through the line. Macey was suspended for 2 days for careless riding as he allowed his mount to drift right-handed without sufficient correction taking Williams off her intended line......Isabel Williams reported that IONITY (FR), placed third, suffered interference.

Jan 22, 2026 -- 2:06PM, ItsMeSwaddle wrote:
Not to see, had to go round the last, not Eric's fault is it

it still drifted 15yds right after they bypassed the last hurdle though.

He is palpably steering the horse there. It was not careless, he did not allow the horse to drift, it went where he was asking it to. you don't need to be an experienced horseman to know that pulling hard on the right reign is telling the horse to go right

Rein

Let it go for God's sake.
The result rightly stood (Praise The Lord)

I backed the winner in the enq.

It's just absurd, if you see the head on reply, he looks up, sees she's there and immediately hangers right.

Ludicrous to pretend it was accidental.

So did I but accidental or not the correct decision

He can be disqualified for dangerous riding.

I know the rules,Cider.
It was careless only

You're claiming it was the correct decision.

Do you view the head on and conclude the horse went to the rail because the jockey didn't do enough to stop it. Or, he wanted it to go there?

In What world ?

Winner gets Slung , Objection by COS to the 2nd , What price to both happen in same race

Jan 22, 2026 -- 12:25PM, Cider wrote:

He can be disqualified for dangerous riding.

I think there's a case for improper riding (still not a DQ) but he hasn't tried to put her through the rail

A two day ban for careless riding was correct

from 2:04:25 on RTV clock there's some intent to come across to the rail imo

he's hard on the rail before the omitted final flight it was clearly (correctly) the place he wanted to be & he hasn't done enough to keep his horse straight or realised early enough where she is

If you deliberately risk bringing a horse down (opponent) to gain an advantage, I think it is dangerous. My view is that he bullied her out of it, and may well not have done that to a senior jockey.

My general point is that it should not be passed off as 'accidental' when it was evidently a deliberate manoeuvre.

Cider • January 22, 2026 6:18 PM GMT
I backed the winner in the enq.

Why

BHA definitions...

1) A rider is guilty of careless riding if he fails to take reasonable steps to avoid causing interference or causes interference by inattention or misjudgement.

2) A rider is guilty of improper riding if he causes interference by some manoeuvre where he knew or ought reasonably to have known that interference would be the result, or any other form of misconduct (whether mounted or dismounted) in the course of riding.

3) A rider is guilty of dangerous riding if he causes serious interference by:
Purposely interfering with another horse or rider, or;
Riding in a way that is far below that of a competent and careful rider and where it would be obvious to such a competent or careful rider that riding in that way was likely to endanger the safety of a horse and rider

this is why its improper riding because he's aiming to come back to the rail & has misjudged where she is

there's no way he would have gone back to the rail if clear, just for the final run between the last flight and the line. to me it is clear that he initially is going to stay straight (after passing the last) until he sees her.

oisin @ sandown was 3
newton abbot 2-3 years ago can't remember jockeys was 3 also
neither called

I have concluded that you could start an argument in an empty room,Cider.

A rider is guilty of dangerous riding if he causes serious interference by: purposely interfering with another horse or rider

I feel it's fair to say whether it is 2 or 3 is judgement, but it is one of them.

Yet you backed it to keep the race

you are arguing with me, irons. Again

he isn't staying straight immediately after bypassing the hurdle
only forest blaze runs straight to the line

Correct,Cider

horse hanging right on the run in & he wants the rail its nothing to do with trying to put her through the rail

I don't like lies. Trying to pass that off as accidental is lying.

if you remember sandown 1 he has deliberately steered to put him through the rail when his horse hangs off it 1 lane

Jan 22, 2026 -- 12:48PM, Cider wrote:

I don't like lies. Trying to pass that off as accidental is lying.

would be worse if we heard "its just good race riding"

afaik nobody is stating he tried to put her through the rail. it can be seen on the head on replay, he looks up, sees she's coming and cuts her up deliberately.

it was not accidental, it was not the horse drifting of its own accord.

nobody is stating he tried to put her through the rail.

to be deemed dangerous it needs to meet this criteria level

A rider is guilty of dangerous riding if he causes serious interference by: purposely interfering with another horse or rider

I'm not stating it has to be 3. but it was 2 or 3, not 1.

which he hasn't

agree with you its more than accidental

Give it up,wonders.
Jesus could appear to Cider who would immediately argue

The 'dangerous' thing is another debate really, if her mount comes down and she breaks a femur, then maybe it becomes dangerous. It really should be the risk caused and not the actual outcome if the worst happens.

But the overriding point I am getting at is that it's wrong to pass it off as accidental, when it was deliberate.

after bypassing the last the horse was edging right..he didnt steer it right at all until the last 50-60yds when he didnt even realise a horse was on his inside..as he steers it right he immeadiately looks round to his right and realises a horse was closing to his right..

wasnt even close to 'dangerous riding'.

Was good riding, just race riding, was only way could get FPTP and did so.
2 day ban, nout to see really WD winners.

ty