Mike Cattermole

Bring back Tommo!

Tough gig

Being myopic has rarely been an advantage for a commentator

Too busy slagging Trump on X

That's good to hear..well done mike..

Trump is not all there..should in a care home in a bubble suit.

Just speaks incoherent pish sentence after sentence.

Good to hear the eu is going to sanction his craziness....

The irony though of Cattermole of all people slagging someone off for waffling and not knowing what he's talking about

Cattermole has one claim to fame that he gets kudos for

He rode a very big name Hollywood actress at Sandown one day, Eclipse I think

He does a good "Sean Connery" as well

Jan 21, 2026 -- 7:00PM, aberdonia wrote:

That's good to hear..well done mike..Trump is not all there..should in a care home in a bubble suit.Just speaks incoherent pish sentence after sentence.Good to hear the eu is going to sanction his craziness....

They had sleepy joe.

For four years.

People genuinely thinking the EU can take on Trump, alone makes it worth it having him around

Who’s taking him on ?

afaik, nobody.

Lots of the usual suspects getting excited about the prospect of it. Meanwhile they are happy for 'us' to bend over for Xi.

Rubbish

Trump is crackers and a menace to europe but a friend to Putin. for that alone he can drop deed

but you are a Putin fanboy


Bidet was a calamity and it showed the arrogance of the chattering classes that and phony liberal meeja that they didnt go near it, so biased are they and full of loathing for Trump

Hes a nut but not wrong on every score, particularly europe getting US defence for nothing

We can't do anything about Putin and he is never going to go into a hot war with the UK. Fanboy? absolutely not. I'm not a fantasist either that believes Putin will stop because we tell him to.

Obviously Trump is not crackets but he is a rather effective troll.

He keeps doing it and the suckers keep sucking. One would have thought they would have learned by now, however it's like a cat playing with a mouse.

tripe

'we' could have done something about Putin, but didnt in 2014, when the invasion began.

you miss the point. even his most strident critics dont suggest he is interested in war with the Uk but they arent seeing the bigger picture

he says he is liberating Ukraine from nazis on Putin TV, the only channel, which is clearly not true

If the war is about that , then why is he engaging in cyberwar, sabotage, cable-cutting(caught red-handed), spreading disinformation and inteferring in foreign elections, and spreading the most filthy propaganda from the St Petersburg IRA?

That is suggestive of a further purpose, otherwise why antagonise your neighbours in such a way that Finland and Lithuania are planting tens of thousands of land mines along the border? Sweden and Finland ressited NATO for 70 years, now they are mad keen for it. Why?

At what point is the Uk involved if he gets what he wants? As much as he can is the answer, and if he can detach the U.S. from Erurope he might get a big bonus courtesy of those who refuse to see the evidence that has been accumulating over the 26 years he has been in power

Trump or Starmer ?

IC E, Ga za, Ukra ine, Green land, Vene zuela, tariffs, Dav ros, etc, ...

Day in, day out, the masses are being pummeled with coverage of the 'father of the va x'. Whatever the subject, conflict or country, he's at the centre of it.

It's almost as if it's some sort of psy-op. Has any US president ever been given so much coverage in a foreign country?

So here's what my analysis is, we have a prime minister who openly admits his allegiances lie with Davos and not Westminster, and from that I would conclude he's very much in favour of a one world government.

Regime change in Russia and Iran would bring that one step closer.

I genuinely have no idea what you are on about, fool. Our military 'force' would struggle to fill a single large football stadium. And the ones we have are not exactly a fighting force. There's nothing the UK could have dome about Crimea. There's nothing we should have done about it. It's not politically correct, I don't particularly care about Ukraine.

'We' seem to live in a bizarre world where 'we' think we can stop wars/invasions. If the EU want to do something about Russia, let them. Do you think they would come to our rescue if it was a cost to them

As I touched on, in the meantime we let China do whatever they want. Including taking over Hong Kong. Why wasn't the country vexed about that? We pay £billions to give our territory away. At the same time are gas lit into believing certain conflicts around the world are somehow our responsibility. Including another country's foreign territory. You couldn't make it up. At the same we willingly collect illegal invaders from the channel, ply them with goodies and let them free to roam the country unabated. That's the ones who aren't hanging around for their free new builds.

I was a bit young at the time to remember, can someone a bit older than I remind us what action other european nations and Southern Ireland took when Argentina invaded the Falklands?

the meeja is obsessed with US politics, as I have bored on about many times, ie the death of a violent thug leads to riots and statue toppling here, but nowhere else. why?

partly because it always looks to blame the west, and US and Israel in particular for the worlds problems and the rest of the world is a victim, however nasty, like Iran, until they cannot ignore it like now

Its not a psy-op, a term only used by conspiracy nutters

Kia has not said his allegiance is with Davos. And you jump to some wacky conclusions, with no evidence and one world government is another giveaway term. So when govts. change the new imcumbents adopt the same agenda automatically, everywhere and unquestioning? A big conspiracy

Are you suggesting the opposition to Putin is based on the desire to create a new world order, and not an entirely reasonable response to a brutal mass-murdering dictator returning war to europe by engaging in the conquest of a friendly neighbour?

regime change in Iran appears to have emanated from within, by people who have endured the most terrible oppression since the Islamic revolution produced the most vicious regime in the world, in a hot contest. no you say, its all part of the plan


embarrassing garbage. get off loonytube you nut

I like him

Cider doesnt care about Ukraine. Crimea, btw was annexed, the war itself was in eastern Ukraine in 2014

you could voice some disapproval of a dictator invading his neighbour. but you dont

Nowhere did I say troops shold be sent. If Putin hasd been frozen out in 2014 (or 2008 when he invaded Georgia, as the Baltic states suggested, as they knew Ukraine was next) this probably wouldnt have happened

Putin wants to fragemnt europe, hence his relentless grey zone attacks on it. Why else does he do this? A point you ignore

At what stage should we become bothered? Putin will annexe Belarus, then probably Georgia and Moldova, and if he gets away with that, and if he lives long enough, the Baltic states

Why have those horrible scandis become so militaristic all of a sudden? They want to disrupt their ordered affluent societies to antagonise Putin? Or because they recognise a far bigger problem in future if the dictator is not given enough reason to pause and maybe back off?

Appeasing dictaors does not work in anyones favour, regardless if you are not directly affected. You might be when he cuts your cables, and he has a large 'dark fleet' sneaking around that are prbably practising it now

And you change the subject. I have bored on about China also, leave it out

Next to none that was ever given out Cider.  As I recall the U.S. wasn’t that encouraging either however may well have aided quietly behind the scenes.  It came out later that Pinochet, the erstwhile dictator and tyrant of Chile gave Thatcher assistance, again quietly.  Which was why Thatcher was friendly towards him ( taking huge flak from the pre-woke wet brigade of Labour voters ) afterwards.
Those are my recalls.  I think they are accurate.

Its not a psy-op, a term only used by conspiracy nutters

You must be absolutely thick as pigsh*t to think that. During the so-called covid era, SPI-B and Susan Michie, director of The Centre for Behaviour Change, were advising SAGE and the govt on how to influence public behaviour.

Kia has not said his allegiance is with Davos

It's here...

https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1793544149821481096

And you jump to some wacky conclusions, with no evidence and one world government is another giveaway term. So when govts. change the new imcumbents adopt the same agenda automatically, everywhere and unquestioning? A big conspiracy

Any number of supposedly independent nations moved in lockstep during the covid, with many of their 'leaders' even adopting the same "build back better" slogan, it was as though they were all reading from the same script.

What policies have changed since one half of the uniparty took over from the other?

Are you suggesting the opposition to Putin is based on the desire to create a new world order, and not an entirely reasonable response to a brutal mass-murdering dictator returning war to europe by engaging in the conquest of a friendly neighbour?

regime change in Iran appears to have emanated from within, by people who have endured the most terrible oppression since the Islamic revolution produced the most vicious regime in the world, in a hot contest. no you say, its all part of the plan

So why haven't they done anything about what's going on in Ga za?
Why are they 'pals' with the Saudi and UAE regimes?

Give ya head a shake and see if you can answer those questions.

The Falklands was an example of a brutal fascist dictatorship invading a harmless territory for its own ends, with no care for those being invaded at all

Sounds familiar

I think we had to resist a blatant act of aggression and should have been given more support, and I still think that now

Pinochet is the only dictator that allowed free elections, which he lost, and then accepted the result and relinquished power, something the raving leftists who hated him did not expect of far worse dictators on the left who never did and those same haters didnt givash1t

Socialist tyrants dont count

not believing in something without evidence of it is not being thick. covid is an obsession of yours and goes nowhere to support your wacky stuff about 'world goverment' which must, by defintion, have a fabulous numnber of supporters

you harvest whatever you can to support what you want to believe, like all nutters, without contemplating how unlikely your hypothesis is. you dont question anything that aligns with your childish nonsense

because 'they' havent stopped Gaza isnt evidence of a sinister conspiracy. 'they' are very busy. And what should have been done?

Tell us why 'they' (its them again) are pals with Saudi

The world is a complex mess, partly due to the refusal of the free world, ie west, which, oddly includes very eastern Aus and NZ to acknowledge that a huge chunk of it is a disaster and is not attuned to western notions of freedom, a woolly term but it will do for now

Instead of pretending every people and nation and culture is equally valid and worthy of respect, which they are patently not, we should tell the really bad hats (China, Russia, all Islamic states) to get lost and refuse to let them undermine our economies and flood us with illegal migrants

thats woefully simplistic but ive wasted enough time and need the khazi, and another bottle

The irony here is that when you actually experienced first-hand a form of tyranny in your own country eg education destroyed, businesses sent to the wall, basic civil liberties trampled on, told to cover your face in public, and coerced into taking a jab that is now known to have killed and damaged people, it passed you by, but somehow you feel 'qualified' to comment on other countries that you have no first-hand experience of?

It's an absolute joke that people don't believe the EU hates us. Shortage of evidence I guess, notwithstanding the gateway laid on for the foreign invaders.

Perhaps it's because plenty of people with a British passport hate Britain, too.

i havent any 'first hand' experience of the south pole, but i do believe it is a bit chilly

it didnt pass me by. ive always been of the opinion that the lockdown was questionable in its severity and still do not know how bad or good it was. and dont put 'qualified' in qutoes because i didnt say it. you did and then attack me for something you said

but it didnt lead me to believe in a 'one world ' government because theres simply no evidence for it

Actually, never mind passport, nominally working for the British State (whilst acting against it)

Like who dreams up the idea of giving China the royal mint building to occupy. Not an accident is it. ffs.

Busyfool 21 Jan 26 23:56 
i havent any 'first hand' experience of the south pole, but i do believe it is a bit chilly

But do you believe it's being affected by climate change?

Your answer to that is probably "yes", but as you have no first-hand knowledge of that region, like all of your geopolitical pontificating and diatribe, you're entirely dependent on 'sources' for your replies.

who mentioned the EU hating us? must have missed it

'shortage of evidence' is usually because there isnt any

You change the subject and dont fancy Putin any more

I accept your capitulation

Starmer is humiliating himself, effectively batting for the EU over Greenland. But like that cricketer who walked out to the crease with no bat.
None of these countries give a flying fig about us, and as I say, actively hate us. It's not even like they try to hide it.

Madtolo, you may pooh pooh my one world government theory, but how about the memoirs of the late David Rockefeller?

“For more than a century, ideological extremists, at either end of the political spectrum, have seized upon well-publicized incidents, such as my encounter with Castro, to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal, working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists,' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.

“We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost 40 years......It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supernational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries.”

― David Rockefeller, Memoirs

Yes gb I do belive it is

my source is new scientist magazine, and i have a bundle of back copies of it, so test me if you dont belive it


my geopolitical pontificating is based on evidence, not loonytube, not Putin propaganda

Putin is a dictator

he invaded neighbour

he said in his own 5000 word testament that it was his 'historic mission' to reunite ukraine with russia

he has crushed all debate and has murdered anyone who doesnt like it

he uses state power for his own ends, and is fabulously wealthy

he engages in cyberwar sabotage disinformation and assassination to furhter his aims (thats not proven, but do you doubt it?)

100s of thousands of russians have fled the country

opposition is a criminal offence

it is a closed media, only state tv exists. all independent media has been purged

i have many sources, like a yard of books on the subject. and the testimony of a long line of russian dissidents who live in fear

and the words of his neighbours, who all fear and hate him. sweden norway finland, poland, the baltic states, etc, on and on


what are your 'sources'?

and you make a leap from one mans opinion to what you want to believe

its an opinion and not a fact. but you approve, so it goes in your plus file

what are your 'sources'?

My own eyes, what I actually see with them in my own world, and that's it.

But some of that you've quoted there applies to this country too.
eg people being jailed for social media posts.

Did any politicians in this country profit from the PPE scandal during the covid?

Regarding TV, is it true that no media outlet referred to the removal of the Venezuelan leader as a kidnapping, they all actually used the same terminology to imply it wasn't that?

100s of thousands of russians have fled the country

Where have they gone? and have *YOU* met any of them?

in that case broaden your horizons. your own world is fantasy

go and read a few books by those who have chronicled putins rise from day one. its overwhelming

unless its all lies and putin is the truth (hes not)

ive never said jailing incorrrect opinion is a good thing. stop splitting hairs. you dotn get 14 years for saying kia is a calamity, though he is

and if profiting from the state is a problem go and read bill browder about his persecution by putin. or a million others

imagine kia appearing on tv whenever he wanted to and telling you all what to do. youd like that. thats all the russian people get


it was kidnapping, and illegal. maduro is a complete bollox and deserves life but its not down to the US to decide, or shouldnt be

putin would have done it properly by murdering him

GEORGE.B Joined: 14 Jul 04
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100s of thousands of russians have fled the country

Where have they gone? and have *YOU* met any of them?



georgia kazakhstan armenia turkey israel finland

and others, i dont know all of em and i dont rely on google

thanks for asking, ive met 2 in london and im a putin fanboy by comparison



are you implying its not true?

in that case broaden your horizons. your own world is fantasy

GEORGE.B 21 Jan 26 23:41 
The irony here is that when you actually experienced first-hand a form of tyranny in your own country eg education destroyed, businesses sent to the wall, basic civil liberties trampled on, told to cover your face in public, and coerced into taking a jab that is now known to have killed and damaged people, it passed you by, but somehow you feel 'qualified' to comment on other countries that you have no first-hand experience of?

A "fantasy" was it?
No, my best 'source' witnessed it, my own eyes.

are you implying its not true?

I don't know but was curious who / what is your source.
You didn't provide one.
It certainly wasn't your own eyes if you've only met two of them.

you are being disingenous in a desperate attempt to deflect

you post what you like and reply to what you like, ignoring what you dont like, and ive put plenty up there, but you dont like it

same old an this forum. i may be boring but i dont deflect as you do and answer every question. you should try it. it is therapeutic confronting uncomfortable arguments that make you re-think

or think

i didnt 'provide a source'. every source you put up is loonytube, infested with lies. you have no independent sources at all and you dont have 'your own eyes' in russia. you have putins lens

what most would do is google 'russians fleeing putin' but i wont

but i will take short odds its true, otherwise it wouldnt be there, in my melon based on what i have read and has left a memory

if im wrong, you would go to town

but i dont deflect as you do and answer every question

Actually, *YOU* don't answer any question because you have no first-hand experience of what you're talking about, what you actually mean is that relay what you've read or heard, and as we've established, sometimes without actually quoting your source.

bizarre

you are so in denial

ive posted a ton of stuff over the last few hours

which of it is untrue iyo? i put up a big list and you agree ith all of it

is that right?

you didnt demand a 'source'. why not?

cattermole never generated such interest

or bollox

Why should I agree or disagree with it?

I'm not there on the ground, for example, counting how many people are fleeing Russia. I don't know and neither do you, all you have is your sources.

Putin is a dictator

he invaded neighbour

he said in his own 5000 word testament that it was his 'historic mission' to reunite ukraine with russia

he has crushed all debate and has murdered anyone who doesnt like it

he uses state power for his own ends, and is fabulously wealthy

he engages in cyberwar sabotage disinformation and assassination to furhter his aims (thats not proven, but do you doubt it?)

100s of thousands of russians have fled the country

opposition is a criminal offence

it is a closed media, only state tv exists. all independent media has been purged

i have many sources, like a yard of books on the subject. and the testimony of a long line of russian dissidents who live in fear

and the words of his neighbours, who all fear and hate him. sweden norway finland, poland, the baltic states, etc, on and on



you didnt ask for any sources for this list i posted one million years ago. why not?

because its all true and documented fact but you dont like it. another fact

why are you so in love with putin?

I see, so if I ask for your source about the number of people fleeing Russia, it must mean I'm "so in love with putin". What a strange individual you are.

Btw madtolo, is there any truth in the rumour that you're a big admirer of Sergey Lavrov?

Don't try to deny it, I have my sources!

ok

i will have a £100 bet with you it is true and you will be the judge. not because ive looked it up but because im sure you have

which of the above statements are untrue?

try and answer for a change. you wont

please give us your opinion of putin. you will give it because you are an honest man and welcome free and honest debate that is being stifled by the british state and we need to stand against it

so stand up

or sit down and shut up

Someone's been watching too much BBC innit

Anyhow Mister Magoo Cattermole...

Remarkable how the BF political fanatics manage to hijack racing threads to enable them to post their views.
For what purpose?

The usual suspects on this thread are meeting up later today at the pub that was named after 'em...  Spoiler: Show

Jan 22, 2026 -- 11:47AM, uptheirons wrote:

Remarkable how the BF political fanatics manage to hijack racing threads to enable them to post their views.For what purpose?

Mick brought Trump into it, as MC had been slagging him on SM apparently. Then of course, tds sufferers can't help themselves. They are everywhere

MJK doesn't even post in Politics here. You're not having much luck currently!

boy george retreated to his own fred and wont be seen again

he quotes david icke but doubts everything from any other source. fool and liar

lot of nuts on this thread.....crazy folk......lol

Let the rajpots go to the political forum where they can argue all day and night without clogging up the racing forum

uptheirons • January 21, 2026 6:21 PM GMT

Being myopic has rarely been an advantage for a commentator

Report•Quote•Block UserMJK • January 21, 2026 6:52 PM GMT

Too busy slagging Trump on X

Report•Quote•Block Useraberdonia • January 21, 2026 7:00 PM GMT

That's good to hear..well done mike..

Trump is not all there..should in a care home in a bubble suit.

Just speaks incoherent pish sentence after sentence.

Good to hear the eu is going to sanction his craziness....

It was the fred starter that helped to take it off topic.

There are shedloads of off topic chats on HR, it's funny how some posters object to some and not others.

It's hardly a ground breaking topic to start with

Trump or the leader of the circus on the Thames ?

I'd be surprised if the rumours about Magoo knocking off Emma were true. Think she could've done a bit better..

Bad news for madtolo, just seen that the age to be called up has been increased to 65.

No more fighting Putin from behind your keyboard, madtolo, you're going to have face Putin face-to-face.

id love to and am already qualified

and the world will be a better place if i did end him, much to your disappointment

im still waiting for your appraisal of the evil brute, despite numerous requests

why are you so scared of voicing your own opinion?

Like yourself, I have nothing first-hand to report.

really?

so unless you are directly involved you can have no opinion? is that it? has david icke been on the moon and witnessed the sad flag-waving departure of the young lizards left behind, not knowing if they will see their reptilian family again?


you are quite sure putin invaded ukraine and there are about 1 mill dead people as a result. you arent there, how can you know? maybe its not happening at all and all the refugees are actors

and how do we fill the gap in our known unkwowns and known knowns? loonytube? putin puts out a lot of info there, so maybe thats the best way

yes, thats it, because western meeja is so corrupt, particularly the bbc, which is an arm of the state, as we all know

Like yourself, I'm entirely dependent that what we're told by others is the truth, as we don't have any first-hand experience of the area ourselves.

However, what we can do is question what we're told.

there are about 1 mill dead people as a result

Where / from whom is this figure from? How many on each side?

credit where its due

you endlessly find ways to avoid reality

certainly not from the russian side as putin never tells the truth. please dispute this

i said 'about' for a reason. you cannot believe anything from a dictator. you should know that. they are renowned for lying, otherwise they might be unseated by the people they are claiming to protect from the evil outsiders. its an old trick. my repression is for your own good because without it you will be slaves of another power even worse

its about right, given some variables, but even if it is 990 000 does it matter? no

over and over, the same bollox

dictators die in power, because they box themseleves in, and their followers go with them

im still waiting for your opinion of putin. you have mine, gratis

*YOU* have no idea how many.

I've googled where you got that figure from:

"(Based on data from the Institute for the Study of War.) Russia: More than 790,000 killed or injured, according to an April 2025 estimate by then-SACEUR Cavoli. 50,000 missing. Ukraine: 400,000 killed or injured, according to a January 2025 estimate by Zelenskyy."

It actually says killed or injured. You couldn't even get that bit right.

So we're being told that the invaders have around twice as many dead / injured as the invaded country. Does that make sense to you?

er yes. history will tell you that invaders suffer greater casualites. for obvious reason. putins propaganda will not

i have not googled anything. without it you would be lost

you are again desperately trying to find ways to excuse putin

will you ever give us your opinion on the invasion and putin himself? no

what are you scared of?

When you are exposed as a know-nothing bluffer, you can't handle it.

i will make it easy for you

is putin a dictator?

did he invade a neighbour that had no problem with russia?

has he kidnapped thousands of children?

has he made himself president for life(25 years and counting)?

has he crushed all opposition and murdered those who stood against him?

does he engage in 'grey area' warfare, ie cyberwar and sabotage against his neighbours?

are his neighbours justified in planting thousands of land-mines on the border with russia?

why have finland and sweden joined nato?


no answer from you. just endless nit-picking. admit the fact putin is a monster but you dont care. fine. stop lying

By all accounts he's an evil rotter.

has he kidnapped thousands of children?

Could Western elites be accused of likewise, Epstein's Island springs to mind?

did he invade a neighbour that had no problem with russia?

Have Western alliances invaded any countries eg Iraq?

has he crushed all opposition and murdered those who stood against him?

He did it all by himself?

does he engage in 'grey area' warfare, ie cyberwar and sabotage against his neighbours?

Is Trump going to annex Canada and other countries for "security reasons"?

are his neighbours justified in planting thousands of land-mines on the border with russia?

Is that going to be of any use when it comes to long-range modern weapons?

why have finland and sweden joined nato?

It can be beneficial for their careers on a world stage?

Take Holland's Mark Rutte for example, now Secretary General of NATO. Someone who when in power, was fully on board with the green agenda.

why can you not just answer yes he is instead trying of to find an equivalent?

western 'elites' are not epstein, unless you have seen it 'with your own eyes'. what are you 'sources'?

and is that the same? no. you are being disingenuous. please stop. its tiresome



forget iraq. i was against it. as i am ukraine. will you give us a reason for invading ukraine? no. the point is you constantly seek to justify putins brutality by finding bogus comparisons, probably from the st petersburg ira. the day you critcise putin is a long way ahead

'did it all by himself' ie murdering people. what sort of poisonous bollox is that? he didnt personally kill them but you know the reality

trump, much as i hate him, is not engaging in cyberwar. you do not deny putin is, but seek to deflect,as ever, over and over. never admit the truth

finland and lithuania planting land-mines; your response is 'how will that help them', not why are they so scared of this evil brute

the best bit; finland and sweden have joined nato. why? beneficial for the career of mark rutte. not because putin has been up to no good in the baltic. those dopey scandis are in the pocket of a cloggy pm, a dangerous greeny
not at all worried by putin


hard to credit how stupid and dishonest you are

one more go;

is putin a dangerous megalomaniac or not

y or n

ntia

BBC adherents, sheesh, that makes ten now on my blocked list.

Yeah I think Emma could've done a lot better myself if the rumour is true...

don't think they'll be putting marco botti up again

On X earlier screaming for Kane to be subbed. As good a football reader as he is a racing commentator

Goodness me, I had to chuckle when Sky dragged him out to talk about Stokes. Marginally better than the two political bods they had in the studio. They must see him as a jack of all trades. Similar to bluffer Balding.

When they know they're on the way out they become a lot more prolific on X..