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There's one that's top of the list on the Politics Forum...
https://community.betfair.com/politics/go/forum/view/94150/165798/politics
Then again [color=#2789CE}xmoneyx[/color] could have told you that considering he was the last one to post on said topic just two minutes before he posted on this one...
https://community.betfair.com/politics/go/forum/view/94150/165798/politics
Then again [color=#2789CE}xmoneyx[/color] could have told you that considering he was the last one to post on said topic just two minutes before he posted on this one...
For the third time in a week, Minnesota is making national headlines, and for all the wrong reasons. In a massive show of federal force against a resistant sanctuary metropolis, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) deployed 2,000 federal agents to Minneapolis-St. Paul in the largest immigration enforcement operation in the nation’s history. Against the backdrop of what federal prosecutors described as a nine billion dollar federal fraud scheme centered in Minnesota’s Somali immigrant community, agents have gone door-to-door investigating human trafficking, narcotics and gang activity, and surreptitious employment by illegal aliens.
Tensions, already high, erupted on Wednesday when an Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agent fatally shot Renee Good, a US citizen protesting ICE enforcement in a residential neighborhood in Minneapolis. Bystanders filmed Good slowly driving her car around the neighborhood while her wife, standing outside the vehicle, repeatedly taunted agents. Good, ignoring commands from agents to get out of her car while her wife appears to be instructing her to “drive,” suddenly accelerated. An ICE agent standing in the vehicle pathway shot Good three times, resulting in her death.
DHS Secretary Kristi Noem described Good as a domestic terrorist who used her vehicle as a weapon to try to run down the ICE agent, who had previously been attacked by an illegal alien and required medical attention. For his part, Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey hotly disputed what he described as the Trump administration’s “garbage narrative.” Both Democrat Mayor Frey and Democrat Governor Tim Walz demanded that ICE leave Minnesota, a primal scream echoed across the progressive left in Minnesota.
Meanwhile, a tug of war ensued between federal and state authorities over who should lead the investigation into the use of force resulting in Good’s death. The U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Minnesota disinvited state investigators from the probe, prompting Democrat state and local prosecutors to promptly announce they would conduct their own competing investigation into the actions of ICE agents whom Walz has described as “Trump’s modern day Gestapo.” Walz poured fuel on the fire by describing Noem as “judge, jury and basically executioner.”
None of this gives the citizens of Minnesota any confidence that justice will be served or that their own lawmakers are acting in their best interests. Indeed, it seems that Minnesotans are but pawns in a much larger battle between an administration that is desperately trying to make up for the sins of the past and the resistance, presently centered in Minnesota, that does not seem to care how many of its own people it sacrifices in service of a lost and most unheroic cause.
There is one question to be answered in the investigation of Good’s death under federal standards: did the ICE officer who used deadly force do so because it was necessary? In other words, did the officer have a reasonable belief that Good posed an imminent danger of death or serious physical injury to the officer himself or another person? Federal authorities are uniquely qualified, experienced, and staffed to answer that question. No competing state narrative need undermine a federal answer to the question presented.
ICE agents are in Minnesota precisely because it is the epicenter of a massive, and in some ways, unprecedented, fraud on the public fisc perpetrated in large part by a segment of the Somali diaspora. DHS federal agents, moreover, are doing precisely what the Constitution and laws of the United States empower them to do: investigating, detaining and preparing to expel illegal aliens who have no right to reside in the United States. Additionally, those agents are focused precisely on those aliens who have racked up serious criminal records including murder, sexual assault, and trafficking in humans, narcotics, and firearms. To attack those agents as Nazis or defend such criminal illegal aliens as victims of xenophobia is worse than ignorant: it is a dangerous lie.
No one else need die for such malignant fictions. Let ICE agents do their job peaceably. Let protestors exercise their First Amendments rights respectfully. And let us send back to their native lands with all deliberate speed and with due process every criminal illegal alien, as we should have been doing all these many years, before it became a border crisis from Mexico to Minneapolis.
Tensions, already high, erupted on Wednesday when an Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agent fatally shot Renee Good, a US citizen protesting ICE enforcement in a residential neighborhood in Minneapolis. Bystanders filmed Good slowly driving her car around the neighborhood while her wife, standing outside the vehicle, repeatedly taunted agents. Good, ignoring commands from agents to get out of her car while her wife appears to be instructing her to “drive,” suddenly accelerated. An ICE agent standing in the vehicle pathway shot Good three times, resulting in her death.
DHS Secretary Kristi Noem described Good as a domestic terrorist who used her vehicle as a weapon to try to run down the ICE agent, who had previously been attacked by an illegal alien and required medical attention. For his part, Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey hotly disputed what he described as the Trump administration’s “garbage narrative.” Both Democrat Mayor Frey and Democrat Governor Tim Walz demanded that ICE leave Minnesota, a primal scream echoed across the progressive left in Minnesota.
Meanwhile, a tug of war ensued between federal and state authorities over who should lead the investigation into the use of force resulting in Good’s death. The U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Minnesota disinvited state investigators from the probe, prompting Democrat state and local prosecutors to promptly announce they would conduct their own competing investigation into the actions of ICE agents whom Walz has described as “Trump’s modern day Gestapo.” Walz poured fuel on the fire by describing Noem as “judge, jury and basically executioner.”
None of this gives the citizens of Minnesota any confidence that justice will be served or that their own lawmakers are acting in their best interests. Indeed, it seems that Minnesotans are but pawns in a much larger battle between an administration that is desperately trying to make up for the sins of the past and the resistance, presently centered in Minnesota, that does not seem to care how many of its own people it sacrifices in service of a lost and most unheroic cause.
There is one question to be answered in the investigation of Good’s death under federal standards: did the ICE officer who used deadly force do so because it was necessary? In other words, did the officer have a reasonable belief that Good posed an imminent danger of death or serious physical injury to the officer himself or another person? Federal authorities are uniquely qualified, experienced, and staffed to answer that question. No competing state narrative need undermine a federal answer to the question presented.
ICE agents are in Minnesota precisely because it is the epicenter of a massive, and in some ways, unprecedented, fraud on the public fisc perpetrated in large part by a segment of the Somali diaspora. DHS federal agents, moreover, are doing precisely what the Constitution and laws of the United States empower them to do: investigating, detaining and preparing to expel illegal aliens who have no right to reside in the United States. Additionally, those agents are focused precisely on those aliens who have racked up serious criminal records including murder, sexual assault, and trafficking in humans, narcotics, and firearms. To attack those agents as Nazis or defend such criminal illegal aliens as victims of xenophobia is worse than ignorant: it is a dangerous lie.
No one else need die for such malignant fictions. Let ICE agents do their job peaceably. Let protestors exercise their First Amendments rights respectfully. And let us send back to their native lands with all deliberate speed and with due process every criminal illegal alien, as we should have been doing all these many years, before it became a border crisis from Mexico to Minneapolis.
I think it was the correct decision to pull the thread. It'd become too polarised, and unnecessary as some posts were insensitive to the family and friends of the deceased, divisive and repugnant.
Not sure many of the family or friends will be reading this forum at this moment in time
Nevertheless, some here can feel the pain. The woman's death was so unnecessary, and her killing was callous and unprofessional.
The shocking thing was it happened in broad daylight, and in America not Russia or China.
The shocking thing was it happened in broad daylight, and in America not Russia or China.
Not sure anyone is shocked about anything that happens in America
True, certainly with America under President Trump.
I do not think even Trump will do a mad-Putin (Ukraine) with Greenland. China will annex Taiwan at the same time, if so.
I do not think even Trump will do a mad-Putin (Ukraine) with Greenland. China will annex Taiwan at the same time, if so.
so you suggest pull the thread, then take a side and drop in your political opinion and create a new one, genius
Reassuring that you have the confidence trump wouldn’t do anything mad.
The CBS discussion and the one with the two lawyers was fairly balanced and objective .
Unlike all the ‘protestors’ who broke into a hotel last night because they wanted to confront Federal Agents.
Agents who had been given orders to target people specifically, rather than spasmodically.
These people are entitled, they think they can instruct what agents can or can’t do.
What will happen when a gang of these people turn up harassing an armed agent in a hotel or somewhere like it?
Do people think the agents will be like the British Army in Ireland and just take it?
Cos I don’t.
Agents who had been given orders to target people specifically, rather than spasmodically.
These people are entitled, they think they can instruct what agents can or can’t do.
What will happen when a gang of these people turn up harassing an armed agent in a hotel or somewhere like it?
Do people think the agents will be like the British Army in Ireland and just take it?
Cos I don’t.
if only people could see the amount of abandoned dogs/cats that are put to sleep every month after being admitted to an animal shelter,would they then call for the abolition of keeping dogs or cats as pets.
They cant keep them all that cant be rehomed.
They cant keep them all that cant be rehomed.
The 'wife' comes across a a right horrible cretin, egging the victim on. Then reading of her past its no surprise. Your typical I hate men type who is a paid protester at all far left protests we see everywhere now. I'm far from a Trump apologist but if he announced tomorrow he had a cure for cancer they'd be out protesting against it because its him.
Just stick to what had happened, and why it had happened? Other possible scenarios are irrelevances and inappropriate.
I am. The video evidence definitely sides with the officer to be fair. And her egging on the deceased lady 'happened', or are you saying it didn't?
You're not that far from being a Trump apologist to be fair
There’s been so much bs
She was just dropping off her kids
Maybe she was scared
She wasn’t given orders
federal Agents don’t have authority
The car never hit the agent
The car hit the agent but only a little bit
The against should have worked out the angle the wheels were at
It’s beyond ridiculous
She was there to break the law, believing she was entitled, when ordered she at the very least didn’t drive away with enough care or attention
All these things resulted in a split second judgement by an agent who was driven into, in a country where they are allowed to dish out more pain through shooting than they happened to have received.
The fact is she was massively in the wrong every which way you look at it, if you don’t like the law, take it up with the politics….not the agents.
She was just dropping off her kids
Maybe she was scared
She wasn’t given orders
federal Agents don’t have authority
The car never hit the agent
The car hit the agent but only a little bit
The against should have worked out the angle the wheels were at
It’s beyond ridiculous
She was there to break the law, believing she was entitled, when ordered she at the very least didn’t drive away with enough care or attention
All these things resulted in a split second judgement by an agent who was driven into, in a country where they are allowed to dish out more pain through shooting than they happened to have received.
The fact is she was massively in the wrong every which way you look at it, if you don’t like the law, take it up with the politics….not the agents.
MJK 11 Jan 26 13:56
I am. The video evidence definitely sides with the officer to be fair. And her egging on the deceased lady 'happened', or are you saying it didn't?
Assuming it happened and wasn't a staged event to incite a response from the public, you know what justifies shooting an unarmed mother of three to death?
NOTHING.
But if you want an armed militia / a modern day version of the brown shirts / gestapo patrolling the streets and shooting members of the public in the head who've annoyed them, why don't you see if you can join up?
I am. The video evidence definitely sides with the officer to be fair. And her egging on the deceased lady 'happened', or are you saying it didn't?
Assuming it happened and wasn't a staged event to incite a response from the public, you know what justifies shooting an unarmed mother of three to death?
NOTHING.
But if you want an armed militia / a modern day version of the brown shirts / gestapo patrolling the streets and shooting members of the public in the head who've annoyed them, why don't you see if you can join up?
I accept that Duffy but just putting myself in his shoes. Ive no doubt the lady wouldn't have drove off if it wasn't for the vile cretin 'wife' telling her to. Unfortunately she paid with her life (which obviously shouldn't have happened). As for the Trump thing like elsewhere this forum has its share of 'whatever Trump says or does I must say or do the opposite' idiots. I disagree with a lot of his stuff but it doesn't blind me to being honest when I think he is right. We had the usual rent a mob crowd in Dublin yesterday 'free Venezuela'. Opposite we had actual Venezuelan anti protesters. The mob were vilifying the Venezuelans for being happy the dictator was gone. You really couldn't make it up.
Total nonsense George. Staged? Ffs, are you wearing a tin foiled hat? Im not happy anyone was killed and dont think it was right, but it wasn't me in that position.
Total nonsense George. Staged? Ffs, are you wearing a tin foiled hat? Im not happy anyone was killed and dont think it was right, but it wasn't me in that position.
Next MJK, you'll be telling me the Trump 'assassination' attempt wasn't staged.
I don't know, I wasn't there and neither were you. So all you have to go on is what the media tell you happened, and frankly my dear, I wouldn't trust them as far I could throw them.
I don't know, I wasn't there and neither were you. So all you have to go on is what the media tell you happened, and frankly my dear, I wouldn't trust them as far I could throw them.
Fair enough. No idea about that either. What I will say is getting back to the killing of that woman I hope the 'wife' gets everything thats coming to her. While the deceased was no mother of the year Ive no doubt she has been seriously led astray.
seen a vid earlier of the dead woman and her partner mocking charlie kirks asassination.
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