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28 Dec 25
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An enquiry was held into the running and riding of WATER OF LEITH (IRE), ridden by Lauren Young and trained by Jim Goldie which raced in last position and appeared to be tenderly ridden in the home straight to run on strongly and finish fourth beaten by 2 lengths The rider and the trainer were interviewed and shown recordings of the race; the Veterinary Officer examined the gelding on two occasions post-race and had nothing to report. The rider stated that her instructions were to drop WATER OF LEITH (IRE) out to able her to get cover from a wide draw to allow her mount to settle having history of running keenly and stepping up in trip on this occasion and mount her challenge when the gaps appeared. Young explained that having obtained her ideal position at the rear of the field, WATER OF LEITH (IRE) settled well and was happily switched off. Young added that on turning into the home straight, the gelding was still travelling well into the race and knowing that her mount finishes its races with a strong surge, she waited for a suitable time to ask for an effort. She went on to explain that approximately 1 ½ furlongs out when she began to nudge WATER OF LEITH (IRE) along, she felt that SUB THIRTEEN to her outside had rolled in slightly, therefore she decided to not proceed further into that gap until she felt safe to do so. Having felt that she had clear running inside the final furlong Young asked WATER OF LEITH (IRE) for more of an effort and concluded that under the circumstances she believed that the gelding had obtained the best possible placing. The trainer confirmed the instructions and expressed his satisfaction with the ride considering that WATER OF LEITH (IRE) had to overcome a wide draw and had briefly ran to freely in the early stages. Young was suspended for 10 days for failing to take all reasonable and permissible measures to ensure that her mount was run on its merits in that, having obtained clear running for a considerable distance approaching the one furlong marker she was slow to ask the gelding for its full effort despite the fact that WATER OF LEITH (IRE) was finishing its race off strongly.
wd goldie..even corrupting your female jocks now..whole game is fckn ran sid.
wd goldie..even corrupting your female jocks now..whole game is fckn ran sid.
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Thinking of putting you forward for an interview with the Barstewards ….Rico.
They want to seriously consider appealing that imo.
If they wanted to 'stop' it, all they had to do was let it run wide from the outside stall.
He was keen early, so she did well to get him cover and switched off, and here's the point, she has a quiet riding style (but it hasn't stopped riding at a 15% strike rate and bagging some decent handicaps).
she felt that SUB THIRTEEN to her outside had rolled in slightly, therefore she decided to not proceed further into that gap until she felt safe to do so
Which should have been enough for them to just note explanations.
And it's actually fair play to Goldie for standing by her in the inquiry because once a trainer says they're happy with a ride that the jock is about to be banned for, they're risking triggering a non-trier fine and the horse being banned from running for 40 days.
If they wanted to 'stop' it, all they had to do was let it run wide from the outside stall.
He was keen early, so she did well to get him cover and switched off, and here's the point, she has a quiet riding style (but it hasn't stopped riding at a 15% strike rate and bagging some decent handicaps).
she felt that SUB THIRTEEN to her outside had rolled in slightly, therefore she decided to not proceed further into that gap until she felt safe to do so
Which should have been enough for them to just note explanations.
And it's actually fair play to Goldie for standing by her in the inquiry because once a trainer says they're happy with a ride that the jock is about to be banned for, they're risking triggering a non-trier fine and the horse being banned from running for 40 days.
Who on this Planet would listen to a moron like you,Aceform?
Carry on kissing StewyB's chuffer as it is more your level
Carry on kissing StewyB's chuffer as it is more your level
So they pick on Lauren Young, but what about all those other rides for Goldie by the 'ambassador' of riding, that go unmentioned...
all bawlicks.
all bawlicks.
I’m talking about Rico,Ironhead,you would be interesting imv….ten miles of p
Just read that the yard was chasing 100 winners for the year, which they had got earlier on the card with Krissy winning, but imo Water Leith would have been ridden cold even if they've been stuck on 99 cuz that is the way he tends to be ridden.
Still think Townend would have won on Jango,Aceform?
You utterly hapless moron
You utterly hapless moron
That you didn't even see Townend nearly drop his whip on the run in on GW says it all
I tend to look what takes place during the race,out in the country tbh……approaching the fence,balance and style…
The individual lacks both imo….
The individual lacks both imo….
The riding crop/whip doesn’t really matter tbh….
You honestly think a horse runs faster getting a crack on the @rse after three miles ffs…..
Take up ping pong ffs…
Take up ping pong ffs…
The horse will probably be thinking WTF is this on my back…..
Iron ffs….the individual has been carried for too long now by class horses,and he still resembles Brod…..playing the violin…
It is entirely possible that you are a master fisherman but more probable that you are a clueless,losing mug
GEORGE.B 28 Dec 25 16:58
They want to seriously consider appealing that imo.
If they wanted to 'stop' it, all they had to do was let it run wide from the outside stall.
fckn pmsl..what an idiotic comment..jimbob> so lauren,youre drawn 12...keep 12yds wide the whole race
They want to seriously consider appealing that imo.
If they wanted to 'stop' it, all they had to do was let it run wide from the outside stall.
fckn pmsl..what an idiotic comment..jimbob> so lauren,youre drawn 12...keep 12yds wide the whole race
The people that run racing are embarrassing not fit for purpoise clueless clowns...as said above,picked on a lady rider and ban her for 10days..ban justified as she never tried wotsoever but 10 days draconian.
ive seen 3-4 rides from top male jockeys last couple of weeks that deserved bans and not 1 was even looked at.
ive seen 3-4 rides from top male jockeys last couple of weeks that deserved bans and not 1 was even looked at.
Horse who has won ten times when held up, is, er, held up from the outside stall, on a night when it didn't look easy to come from too far back. Said horse who has conserved its energy with an energy-conserving ride and has been ridden no differently from how it usually is, catches the eye as it closes from off the pace under a 5lb claimer who has looked the opposite of Luke Morris in a finish.
There was nothing to warrant any ban.
fckn pmsl..what an idiotic comment..jimbob> so lauren,youre drawn 12...keep 12yds wide the whole race
IF they wanted to 'stop' it. They didn't.
You wanna hope Jim doesn't sue you for that 'corruption' slur in the opening post
There was nothing to warrant any ban.
fckn pmsl..what an idiotic comment..jimbob> so lauren,youre drawn 12...keep 12yds wide the whole race
IF they wanted to 'stop' it. They didn't.
You wanna hope Jim doesn't sue you for that 'corruption' slur in the opening post
10 days seems very harsh, yes horse finished with running but not a lot Lauren Young could have done,
had to switch to find a gap when Ten Club made coming widest impossible and was then blocked again by Sub Thirteen
4th was best she could manage from that position imo Stewards picking on girl claimer when as mentioned
more experienced jockeys get free rein(!) to do what they want on a daily basis
had to switch to find a gap when Ten Club made coming widest impossible and was then blocked again by Sub Thirteen
4th was best she could manage from that position imo Stewards picking on girl claimer when as mentioned
more experienced jockeys get free rein(!) to do what they want on a daily basis
GEORGE.B 28 Dec 25 16:58
If they wanted to 'stop' it, all they had to do was let it run wide from the outside stall.
ewe wanna hope Rampton docs dont come a knocking.
If they wanted to 'stop' it, all they had to do was let it run wide from the outside stall.
ewe wanna hope Rampton docs dont come a knocking.
NEC...it wasnt wanted..no effort wotsoever.
Man who posts potentially libellous comment...
wd goldie..even corrupting your female jocks now..whole game is fckn ran sid.
...Which could potentially see him sued and incur huge financial costs, suggests it's someone else who needs to watch out for the Rampton docs.
Only on the Betfair forum
wd goldie..even corrupting your female jocks now..whole game is fckn ran sid.
...Which could potentially see him sued and incur huge financial costs, suggests it's someone else who needs to watch out for the Rampton docs.
Only on the Betfair forum
GEORGE.B 28 Dec 25 16:58
If they wanted to 'stop' it, all they had to do was let it run wide from the outside stall.
man post the most ridiculous comment...Only in the betfair forum.
If they wanted to 'stop' it, all they had to do was let it run wide from the outside stall.
man post the most ridiculous comment...Only in the betfair forum.
Very harsh! The Horse is a very tricky type that needs kidding into thinking its not in a race. My only issue would be, why haven't connections run the horse more often over 6F? The last 2 races at that trip until the other night reads 11
6 from 50 tells the story..same as most h/cappers..but she did not ride it sat night to achieve best possible placing...seen plenty as bad/worse last few weeks that aint even been looked at.
goldie is a tricky stable..he aint daft.
goldie is a tricky stable..he aint daft.
Rico is right imo but that is the wonder of our age - free speech!
Ridding to orders , poor ride on Yasser , no idea of pace or what to expect of a horse , a lot to learn,
keep hearing his horses are "tricky".
if they're tricky why you putting Lauren Young on them ?
if they're tricky why you putting Lauren Young on them ?
Why not? Many run better for an apprentice
A large % of its runs, would suggest it's not the most straightforward of horses. I doubt the horse, owner and trainer had any idea how it would run today.
A large % of its runs, would suggest it's not the most straightforward of horses. I doubt the horse, owner and trainer had any idea how it would run today.
No "cooperation" tonight. Not put in the race,no interest at all.1/2 f starts to luv tap it
Dec 29, 2025 -- 6:20PM, 11kv wrote:
No "cooperation" tonight. Not put in the race,no interest at all.1/2 f starts to luv tap it
This horse is normally slowly away.Doesn't always pick up.
They are in that grade for a reason, like her winner tonight they need everything to fall right to win.
I'm sure Katie and the owners would take great exception to the allegations of cheating, had a horse with Katie that ran 13 times without winning and was still above her last winning mark, she could easily have gone down the other route but didn't.
I'm sure Katie and the owners would take great exception to the allegations of cheating, had a horse with Katie that ran 13 times without winning and was still above her last winning mark, she could easily have gone down the other route but didn't.
hulk23 • December 29, 2025 5:22 PM GMT
keep hearing his horses are "tricky".
if they're tricky why you putting Lauren Young on them ?
Because these types of Horses (the type that would have been binned a long time ago at bigger stables) can and do perform well for a more considerate style of riding
keep hearing his horses are "tricky".
if they're tricky why you putting Lauren Young on them ?
Because these types of Horses (the type that would have been binned a long time ago at bigger stables) can and do perform well for a more considerate style of riding
The dealer,different ride when 2nd at the track,no weetabix this morning...
And no mention of cheating just saying what I saw with my peepers m8
Aye imho your post clearly says it wasn't off.
Little really grates me for yards Luke harsh to be accused of having non tries. The work they put in with them is second to none. Ursa major are one of the best run syndicates out there. I can tell you with 100% confidence the stable is 100% straight, the owners are 100 % . straight. There is no one at lindean that lays horses or whose betting would have any influence on the markets
Little really grates me for yards Luke harsh to be accused of having non tries. The work they put in with them is second to none. Ursa major are one of the best run syndicates out there. I can tell you with 100% confidence the stable is 100% straight, the owners are 100 % . straight. There is no one at lindean that lays horses or whose betting would have any influence on the markets
Maybe the horse had a headache ,Im sure it was all above board.
No financial interest.
Watching its replays thought i had seen something to hopefully make the horse run with an outside chance,looking for a decent priced winner in georges aw comp.
Watching its replays thought i had seen something to hopefully make the horse run with an outside chance,looking for a decent priced winner in georges aw comp.
if yasser was never gona win some in runners in this fred must of bagged up as it was still short at 1/2 way.
Irons and Kenbo say nothing to see in any race its all above board.we are all just useless at reading the form!
After watching the race did n t seem like much in it,funny how they dont spot the real obvious ones from top jockeys.
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