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By:
elise
When: 22 Dec 25 17:10
did u get banned from tesco with your mate?
By:
HoratioNelson
When: 22 Dec 25 17:17
jerseyboy 22 Dec 25 16:54 
Horatio  IMO the jockey concerned is in my opinion a dedicated stable jockey truly loyal to his stable and their owners has won many many top races conveniently overlooked by his short sighted critics.


That is fine, but we are not talking about reputation or the past. We are talking about todays ride.
By:
jerseyboy
When: 22 Dec 25 17:24
Elise  we do not have that crap of a supermarket here, only for pleps like you.
By:
jerseyboy
When: 22 Dec 25 17:25
Glasgow,  nearly tee total  thanks, all the best..
By:
uptheirons
When: 22 Dec 25 17:25
To save any further debate,today's ride was at best,an appalling ride of over confidence.
If,in the unlikely event of it being a "Not Off",it was the greatest judgement of any jockey who has ever ridden
By:
Cider
When: 22 Dec 25 17:35
He didn't need to jump off, to be fair Mischief
By:
punchestown
When: 22 Dec 25 21:39
Not dodgy imo but absolutely terrible ride from the luckiest jockey to hold such a position in my lifetime.

Horses win despite him and not because of him.
By:
uptheirons
When: 22 Dec 25 21:53
He is 36 now and probably his last season
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 22 Dec 25 23:28
the horse?
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 23 Dec 25 18:46
Quick, there’s the bell.  Jersey and Elise, you need to get back into the classroom.
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 23 Dec 25 18:47
Nearly as good as Balinger Ridge.  Grin
By:
CagliariG
When: 23 Dec 25 19:40
I wonder sometimes why I bother to look on here for anything remotely sensible in terms of racing. Not surprised the usual suspects quickly forgot the ride Nico gave Impose Toi, he made it look easy didn't he? Anybody with half a clue would acknowledge that it was far from a simple task despite appearances.

At Huntingdon he was perhaps overconfident and the final flight mistake was his undoing but whether he would have prevailed by whipping his mount is debatable, lost by inches to a horse receiving 7lbs and dropped in class who's next target is black type. I get the howls of less effort than seemed warranted but any how; of pulling the mare is ludicrous unless it was the most sublime jockeyship seen in a non trier?

As for comparing him and Cobden based on the result, again ludicrous without even considering that the winning mare is probably better than many thought and the runner up perhaps not so much superior?

Btw honcho, how does it in any way compare with Ballinger?
By:
Cider
When: 23 Dec 25 20:25
A good ride doesn't counterbalance subsequent poor ones. Does it? Anyone with half a clue would realise that. There has never been a jockey that hasn't c0cked it up at some point.

Cobden is a superior jockey, no shame in that. It was Nico's misfortune that he was up against Cobden in that scenario.

However, the connections won't be that bothered I suspect, just those that rode in on the Hendo good thing at odds on that would be most bothered.
By:
CagliariG
When: 23 Dec 25 20:36
That would be an answer with just half a clue then Cider, a bit like you telling us that Wham were buying money at 1/3 and some bent bloke winning the dancing? lol
By:
uptheirons
When: 23 Dec 25 20:40
JP drifting Shorties in ordinary races = Buyers Beware.
BTW,there is no question of Nico being "perhaps overconfident" when he was vastly overconfident.
By:
CagliariG
When: 23 Dec 25 20:43
Probably a fair comment irons but Cider trying to be clever does not work however you dissect his retort!!?
By:
Cider
When: 23 Dec 25 20:53
I didn't tell anyone Wham was buying money. I wanted to get on at 1/3 with sly, put up 1.25 to lay here and nobody had the bottle to lay me.
By:
Cider
When: 23 Dec 25 20:56
I did have to turn my original position around, but it worked out ok.

By:
uptheirons
When: 23 Dec 25 20:57
I have never avoided backing Nico in a big race,Glen.
You have lunatics like Newmarket Spurs and nonentities like Aceform who would struggle to read "Janet & John" let alone a race talking abject nonsense."Stonehands"for God's sake.
I grant you that he is not the most stylish rider but he is very effective.
The day Hendo thinks otherwise he will be gone
By:
CagliariG
When: 23 Dec 25 20:58
That is a tad contradictory don't you think Cider? You wanted to get on at 1/3 but then wanted to lay it? Is there an angle we are missing?

Btw perhaps the layers thought you were so clued up that you knew best?
By:
Cider
When: 23 Dec 25 21:02
Circumstances changed quickly. There's a thread on the specials forum with my commentary 'live', outlining why things changed. Kylie certainly won me more money than Wham would have, and she has kept the market interesting going forward.
By:
CagliariG
When: 23 Dec 25 21:06
You know the score irons, whenever we get a Nico thread the horses never get a mention which tell us the likes of Newmarket and his cronies are simply groupies for when it goes wrong, which it does regularly for most jockeys. I curse them as much as anybody btw but hardly a reason to troll them every ride imvho?
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 23 Dec 25 21:06
CagliariG 23 Dec 25 19:40 
I wonder sometimes why I bother to look on here for anything remotely sensible in terms of racing.

CagliariG 27 May 24 19:27
We have laid it to lose £155 K min sparrow and hope for more!!!

oh the irony Laugh
By:
CagliariG
When: 23 Dec 25 21:07
Would she be going forward with the bent dancer Cider?
By:
Cider
When: 23 Dec 25 21:09
The only certainty with scd was Amber getting stuffed.
By:
CagliariG
When: 23 Dec 25 21:11


Exactly my point shafter, an £11k profit from the horse but you think you know about betting and making a book? LOL
By:
uptheirons
When: 23 Dec 25 21:11
Good luck to anybody that can even stand to watch the "Specials" trash.
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 23 Dec 25 21:15
11k profot from a note with a used chip on it?

what a silly old **** you really are tobymugs.
By:
formoftheace
When: 23 Dec 25 21:15
Cag,do you have a soft spot for the cumbersome individual ?
By:
formoftheace
When: 23 Dec 25 21:17
I think he will win the KG imv…..
By:
CagliariG
When: 23 Dec 25 21:17
You cannot handle facts shafter, if you could you would not be running away whilst I am near you? All documents you demanded available when you wish to view them?
By:
Cider
When: 23 Dec 25 21:19

Dec 23, 2025 -- 9:11PM, uptheirons wrote:


Good luck to anybody that can even stand to watch the "Specials" trash.


The glory days are long gone, some of it I can no longer stomach myself, such as bb and bgt. But still a few good opportunities. Someone well connected and betting on here has had access to bbc voting on scd and spoty this year though, which is pretty disconcerting.

By:
formoftheace
When: 23 Dec 25 21:20
Sometimes you wonder why you click on the horse racing forum Cag,it’s an addiction imv…..you can’t help it….
By:
CagliariG
When: 23 Dec 25 21:21
If you need advice on any LGBTV+ stuff, shafter is your man Cider, especially broken down Trannies!! lol
By:
CagliariG
When: 23 Dec 25 21:22
Unlike you Quixall I spend days and weeks not even looking on the cesspit!!
By:
formoftheace
When: 23 Dec 25 21:24
I’m not on much nowadays tbh…..
By:
uptheirons
When: 23 Dec 25 21:27
A "cumbersome individual"riding a horse that needs to find plenty at 3/1 for the KG?
By:
Cider
When: 23 Dec 25 21:28
Back on topic, Nico is pretty honest and I'd say there's a fair chance he would have admitted stuffing that one up himself. They are not infallible. He gets unnecessary abuse, but it doesn't negate that ride.
By:
CagliariG
When: 23 Dec 25 21:29
Quixall stated that he would win on this irons, can't decide if he is joking or has lumped on, which is it Quixall?
By:
uptheirons
When: 23 Dec 25 21:36
That is the individual who made Jonbon a 1/5 chance at Aintree and when I pointed out it was 1.7 on here and surely a maximum bet.
He said,"It's not my type of bet"Laugh
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