Scotland v Brazil

England get another bunch of pub teams to help them through…..lol

You should be saying that in Portuguese, surely? 
Kicked us off the park in 1974.

Panama deary me would be like playing Crewe ffs

Panama play really well through the Canals (Channels).

We’d have worked it out.  The brackets were like unused subs.  Not needed.

Get in pot one and you’re guaranteed a passage to the next round.

Great draw for Scotland, who doesn't want to play Brazil in a WC ? 1974 Scotland should have won, 1982 was slaughtering but that was a superb Brazil team, 1998 Scotland done ok against them, and I expect them to do ok this time too. Would not advise betting them but should be great occasion for fans and the players, coaches etc.

a very decent draw for Scotland.....not that im much of fan of international football...Look forward to Croatia crushing the Nigels.

Memories of Archie Gemmill....

ive only attended one Scotland game in my life, and it was corporate.....we drew 0 -0 with Norway, but we were fed and plied with drink beforehand, and Archie Gemmell answered questions for over an hour....1978 world cup, Scotland were 3rd favourites and had been on a south american tour, the year before the world cup, where we drew 1 - 1 with Argentina.

I actually believed we would win the world cup, but i was a child back then and loved listening to the Scotland games on the radio....Now the Scotland games just get in the way of the domestic stuff....lol

btw, i asked Archie a question and told him we were one of the big favourites to win in 78........

Allys Army

re run of 1998 game, was fairly close one.

have they printed the world cup winners stamps this time ?

England and Scotland are highly unlikely to reach the quarters …..probably get out the first group then home imv….

Both have been dreadful in qualifying tbh.

Archie Gemmill, where is he? I think he'd still get into the present Scottish team.

Scotland sure to improve on their World Cup record but that is a very low bar. 1978 was hilarious if you wasn't a Scottish supporter.

I suppose it was.  .  

"Both have been dreadful in qualifying"     England haven't conceded a goal ydc  but you are correct about Scotland.

Form - England's play has often been poor, but oddly amazingly decent results - zero goals conceded in all matches!? Win's to 0 all matches.

None of the other sides will want England as opponents, because they are an awkward team to play against, and have attacking bite (Saka, Kane etc)

The expression on the manager's face against Holland was hilarious and SAD at the same time. A spirited comeback, just failed.

Many on here congratulated us warmly on winning through.  Fine fellows that they are.  Good luck England you can win it - we know we can’t.
We also know that once again we will be pertying with the football-crazy Brazil fans, in legendary repeat-mode fashion.
And nothing weedy impossible can jibe will dampen our enjoyment of any of it.   

England did not even qualify in 74 & 78, Scotland exited in 74 unbeaten, on goal difference, having beaten England in their first game as cup holders, btw England did not even have to qualify in 66.

The difference since is that the Scotland squad is largely white Scots still, would England have done any better with the same make up of players?

I doubt it very much and the team may be called England but English?

"Both have been dreadful in qualifying"     England haven't conceded a goal ydc  but you are correct about Scotland.

Lol you couldn’t say they were up against world beaters Howard tbh….

A lot of to side and back the way from England tbh…arguing and squawking….

Scotland were poor at times but got stuck in when required….

Nothing special from both nations….

I can only imagine what the last two posts contained because, as he knows very well, I have him blocked.
I do however wish the fellow well and hope he has a very merry Xmas and a Happy New Year.

Lochy, stop embarrassing yourself talking about a subject you know nothing about. England won eight out of eight qualifying games conceding no goals. Mathematically they couldn’t have done any better.

Opposition Kenbo……?

A million to lift the gold …..

Archie Gemmill was not a first starter going into tournament, neither was John Robertson, Graeme Souness, Martin Buchan so it would be foolish to say Scotland didn't have a good squad.
Ally's midfield established midfield trio was Rioch (captain) Masson and Asa Hartford going into tournament.
Unfortunately Peru game became a disaster, match and post match,  Masson missing penalty (who knows what would have happened) and Bud Johnston failing drugs test.

Any of the gamblers remember Scottish bookie Jim Tait (god rest him) planning to take fans to Argentina in a submarine , ? that's why you need Scotland in WC.

We are an elite European team, Lochy. We are drawn against weaker countries, that’s how it works.

We are 6/1 second favs on here, you are 230. You’re getting a great price to lay at, you may even win a footy bet in 2026 if they fail!

I only watch Kenbo,punting on football for me is history….

We were telling you to give up footy betting years ago. You proved on here how awful at it you were. Glad you’ve finally come to your senses, hope it wasn’t too costly.

No doubt we will keep hearing your biased opinions about England until the World Cup is over. It would actually improve our chances no end if you did lay them!!

Nothing against them Kenbo tbh,just don’t like the hype….punters in Scotland know the team is a million but enjoy the buzz…

Pundits down south have the punters thinking it’s coming home,dreadful song by the way…

Do you think we listen to what the pundits are saying about our chances? We all know our chances. Ranked fourth best team in the world, sailed through qualification without a blemish, and we are second favourites to win the tournament. A great position to be in.

Unfortunately we are used to disappointment, underwhelming performances and what-could-have-been. As with each new tournament though we have hope.

As long as the squad don’t try and sell carpets to raise some in-camp beer money I’ll be happy. 
Play and work hard, accept defeat with grace and fans party in peace and I’ll be reasonably happy.

For me, if Tuchel can get inside Bellingham’s head and get him focussed on teamwork as well as himself your chances will double.
The guy is a class act.

All anybody can want and expect is for their players to give there all

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For me, if Tuchel can get inside Bellingham’s head and get him focussed on teamwork as well as himself your chances will double.
The guy is a class act.
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i think hes overrated honcho and tuchel knows that

Surprised at that.  You might be right but we’ll find out.  Real rarely buy duds.

Honcho they probably sign more duds than you think madrid, because they have huge money turnover.
I'm not saying Bellingham is a dud, he is a decent footballer and physically a large fit man, so he's never going to be ineffective, I just think English media overhyped him and perhaps Tuchel, fresh pair of eyes "he's not that good"
As you say time will tell.

Bellingham is the one England player I’ve seen play the least. Has flashes of brilliance like all the stars, but the jury is still out for me. I’m not even sure if I like him!

i've personally only seen him in small samples myself, he's never convinced myself he is a superstar, but the opportunity is there in WC to prove me wrong, although i'm sure he doesn't care what i think

From the first minute I saw the laddie play it was clear to me was special.  The World Cup generally proves or disproves that so we’ll maybe find out.  That’s if Tuchel can actually handle him.

He seems to have the arrogance of a man who has won everything. He not in that league yet.

I think he’d be better liked if he showed some humility. A lot of the England players are pretty good at that imo.

In all fairness wish he was playing for Ireland in qualifier, also Kane but we will need to try and do it with the players who chose Ireland, before England. I have my doubts but you never know.

I agree kenbo, that is his problem.  But his c.v. is way ahead of each and every other English player, other than Kane, who is of course a standout if we ignore his shortage of silverware.  If Tuchel could get that edge working as a positive he would be doing well imo.

I bet he’d love to swap his individual honours with Foden!

I forgot about him.  True.  He is still to really fire for England too.  Full of class and the promise of 3xcellence but doesn’t quite get it there.  Don’t you think?
Very likeable.

One player does not a team make unless the name is Diego or Pele!!

I hope he comes good in an England shirt. He saved us at the Euros with a last gasp goal.

Our squad doesn’t look that impressive. He’s gonna have stand up and lead the way with a few of our other star men.

I agree Cag but he can have a hell of an influence.  Cliche it may be but big players do it in big games, when the chips are down.  I believe he has that in him.

Take out the non English and would "England" be a force better than they were when Scotland regularly outperformed them in the World Cup iyo?

Less than 1/10th of population btw!!

I can’t remember us ever “outperforming” England in a World Cup.

Have you had a frontal lobotomy or just forgot 74 & 78?

Non English, Glen?

Your star player is a born and bred Manc!

We can hardly outperform a team that isn’t there.  If you meant the Qualifying stages you should have made that clear - fcukwit.

can you name the non english playing for england because i cant think of any ??

I can only assume Glen thinks any black player we’ve fielded over the years don’t count. Tragic, if for him if that’s the case.

I simply started with colour then dna heritage tbf, a bit like an "English" team winning the European Cup!!

Lobotomy 1.01 for you then Honcho?

Google says Marc Guehi was born in the Ivory Coast. We’d be doomed without him!

It is something that no English club can never claim and only one club that could ever claim as being purely of their country if they ever managed it?

Can you name the compy or the club (s)?

Forest had all UK players I think.

Scottish star player no doubt Kenbo but not 11 "English" players, was his name John by any chance?

WHU. 1975 FA Cup.

I would take the credit for it……

You clearly just wanted hostilities.  Stupid man.

Clearly just stated facts as always, not my fault you and others deny them without contrary discussion to back up your juvenile rants?

Stand by for the bite!!

What rants halfwit?

I assume you can read Honcho? Confusing tbh that you think I was referring to you again?

If I was a halfwit it would quadruple your IQ at least!!

Oh Dear.  Not terribly mature are you?

You think not which describes your maturity, nearer 70 than 17 Honcho and my grandchildren are more mature than you will ever be, you sound like the idiots I spent my life locking up tbh.

No mention who turn out to ber our top goalscorer .... EZE.

.. Of who could

  As the forum can see you started the abuse.  20.45. Then followed it up with 20.58.  No need for either comment, was there?   The forum will have witnessed it and formed its own judgement.

He might’ve been born in England, Glasgow, but he doesn’t count as an English player in Glen’s eyes.