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acey deucy
01 Dec 25 07:28
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Unseated Nico in a Schooling session before he went up to Newcastle according to The Barstewards Podcas.If it is true i am absolutely disgusted it was kept quiet especially with this Horses history.Matt Chapman Nick Luck i suggest you do your job and ask Henderson is it true or false punters have a right know.

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By:
acey deucy
When: 01 Dec 25 07:49
I mean all punters are equal but what about the big hitters who lumped on him at Newcastle thinking the vibes are great and everything is Hunky Dory?.......Would not have touched him with a barge pole.
By:
ThePomp
When: 01 Dec 25 08:17
Jeriko du reponet at Sandown last year. Unibet sponsorship. Rank stable. Crying on cue another string to add to his bow.
By:
brandyontherocks
When: 01 Dec 25 08:25
Strange though, as you would have expected a drift, but he was well supported.
By:
Ramruma
When: 01 Dec 25 08:25
Maybe the big hitters should glance at the formbook and not rely on stable gossip.

Regardless of what happened or did not happen while schooling, Constitution Hill had lost his three previous races by two falls and a submission. Saturday had "watching brief" written all over it.
By:
Rob-Invest
When: 01 Dec 25 09:24
Interestingly, B365 were offering Evens (enhanced from 1/2) to finish 1 or 2 which told me he would either win, and 365 had laid a 6/4 chance at evens; or fall, get pulled up, etc.
There's often something to read into 365 specials.
I agreed it was a watching brief.
By:
FOYLESWAR
When: 01 Dec 25 10:16
there were a few online companys offering similar rob ^ ,i dont think anything untoward in it as there were question marks around the whole field one way or the other and the falls and poor punchestown run plus the hype around conshill prob made it a no lose  situation whatever the result for them . adding that there would have been a limit on stakes anyway.
By:
loui
When: 01 Dec 25 10:34
If anyone jumped on Ronaldo Hill more fool them
By:
uptheirons
When: 01 Dec 25 11:16
Social Media is an abomination with semi mugs like the Barstewards making unsubstantiated allegations
By:
elise
When: 01 Dec 25 11:35
until someone sticks up a video or the person riding or NH say conclusively it's guesswork, also there's a huge question over when this supposedly happened because the original rumour was the day they shipped it north

who puts a horse on a lorry for a 300 mile trip when it's gone down, that's just stupid? 

the truth is prob something in between, either it was an unseat or it was older news, if a trainer travelled a horse to the races on the same day after a fall he needs his head checking, you'd think NH would go public either with the facts or a complete denial
By:
acey deucy
When: 01 Dec 25 11:53
Henderson on Nick Luck this morning saying everything had gone beutifully for his preparation for the umpteenth time.....So there ya go.
By:
elise
When: 01 Dec 25 11:55
ty acey i don't watch it but if it transpires it's true then he has some questions to answer
By:
the dealer
When: 01 Dec 25 12:06
Does him falling off during schooling, really affect the horses chances a few days later ?
By:
1st time poster
When: 01 Dec 25 12:40
lucky didnt ask him about schooling fall
fitzy,luke didn't mention it when discussing it at length on atr
tells me it happened
By:
acey deucy
When: 01 Dec 25 12:43
Luck did bottle it right enough.
By:
penzance
When: 01 Dec 25 12:44
If he did fall why did he run & why was he pretty strong in
the mkt?
By:
acey deucy
When: 01 Dec 25 12:46
the dealer01 Dec 25 12:06Joined: 31 May 07 | Topic/replies: 28,915 | Blogger: the dealer's blog
Does him falling off during schooling, really affect the horses chances a few days later ?

Good question but why keep shtum about it?
By:
acey deucy
When: 01 Dec 25 12:52
Gobsmacked he has not completely ruled out another run over Hurdles.....Can you imagine he did run and the worst happen Henderson would be a bigger outcast than Andrew Mountbatten Windsor ffs.Plain
By:
uptheirons
When: 01 Dec 25 13:03
Why don't you just wait and see Acey instead of pointless ifs and buts?
By:
acey deucy
When: 01 Dec 25 13:04
Just trying to get to the truth irons.
By:
uptheirons
When: 01 Dec 25 13:12
On here??????Laugh
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 01 Dec 25 13:18
this been discussed for days yet the forums non bettor starts a diff fred...

froysdc.
By:
know all
When: 01 Dec 25 13:24
Eyesight gone it don’t see the hurdles as it should, posted Saturday but didn’t go on, and mullings one ruby not shouting it, Skelton saying his would come on for the run,backed the 2 outsiders
By:
acey deucy
When: 01 Dec 25 13:26
rico you watch yer mooth son.
By:
acey deucy
When: 01 Dec 25 13:29
Caus every time you give me abuse this is what will happen.Plain

Lay (Bet Against)
Backer's odds Backer's stake
Payout
Liability
Searchingtheblues
110.00
£6.32
£688.88
Total stake:
£6.32

i wont usher thissin in Mischief
By:
acey deucy
When: 01 Dec 25 13:34
Aye get back under yer rock.LaughLaugh
By:
Mick Sturbs
When: 01 Dec 25 13:42
Oxford dictionary word of the year" rage bait "
A term  that describes manipulative tactics used to drive engagement online
Seems to me that is what all this constitution hill "falling when schooling"is all about
By:
DrGordons
When: 01 Dec 25 13:52
Maybe I've missed it but has anyone seen a comment from Barry Geraghty who bought CH as a foal? Bearing in mind his association with Henderson and his help on getting back Sprinter Sacre I'd be interested to hear his view.
By:
CagliariG
When: 01 Dec 25 13:59
Geraghty stated that it would be difficult to untrain the horses mind, as if his mental issues had been trained into him. Not very well opined if the RP were quoting verbatim.
By:
DrGordons
When: 01 Dec 25 14:09
Thanks Cag. I've just found his comments online, notably that the horse is picking up a stride early. All the falls have been since the introduction of padded hurdles so perhaps the horse has been put off by having to change his old natural technique. I'm not a de Boinville knocker but he's bound to be apprehensive. Maybe try a younger, no-nonsense pilot.
By:
CagliariG
When: 01 Dec 25 14:12
Sounds like Nicky may not rule out a jockey change and going back over hurdles a possibility, the only things ruled out are retirement and fences DrGordons.
By:
uptheirons
When: 01 Dec 25 14:12
It's absolutely nothing to do with the padded hurdles and no jockey ever born could stop it from guessing at the flights
By:
Tiger Tiger
When: 01 Dec 25 14:13
He overjumped in his previous race, fell in the two before that, I very much doubt that the 'big hitters' would have been tempted to get involved in the Fighting Fifth.
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 01 Dec 25 14:16
If it wasnt the bond between this particular owner/Trainer I suspect CH would have been moved on ages ago, the last roll of the dice for me would be a stint at Skeltons .. see what happens ?  ( yes i know it will never happen )
By:
elise
When: 01 Dec 25 14:17
personally i just fed up of the whole henderson drama routine, every season there's something
By:
elise
When: 01 Dec 25 14:18
am*
By:
acey deucy
When: 01 Dec 25 14:19
A jockey Change......There is one man and one man only if that was the case......Step forward Harry Cobden......But would he want to risk it?
By:
penzance
When: 01 Dec 25 14:19
Ages ago? Horse was unbeaten up ' till 9 months ago.
By:
acey deucy
When: 01 Dec 25 14:25
Its a no brainer in my book....He runs on the flat its not as if Henderson cant Train flat winners ffs.Plain
By:
CagliariG
When: 01 Dec 25 14:27
25% strike rate last 5 years on the flay acey, as good as anybody.
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