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howard
17 Nov 25 14:47
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pointless after the slo-mo
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Report Rico-Dangleflaps November 17, 2025 3:01 PM GMT
some opened seconds after past line..other minute later or not at all..they are just fur king hopeless.
Report jamee1 November 17, 2025 3:01 PM GMT
Very annoying! Angry
Report jamee1 November 17, 2025 3:08 PM GMT
Why they don't just suspend and immediately reopen every race automatically for a set period? There's always volume wanting to get on for greening/photo/stewards etc.
Report duffy November 17, 2025 3:15 PM GMT
The ones where you think youve got the correct opinion that is likey against the grain....are always delayed!!
Report kjansch November 17, 2025 3:50 PM GMT
why would anyone be waiting for the slo mo to be shown before reopening
Report Rico-Dangleflaps November 17, 2025 3:51 PM GMT
all RTV pics arnt on line.
Report jamee1 November 19, 2025 3:19 PM GMT
TTT
Report kjansch November 19, 2025 3:22 PM GMT
again waiting for the slo mo to be shown before reopening the photo market..
Report uptheirons November 19, 2025 3:23 PM GMT
BF don't even want to risk £100 on non risk photos
Report Rico-Dangleflaps November 19, 2025 4:19 PM GMT
aye its strange how its went from re-opening nearly every photo seconds after they past the line to a minute or not at all.
Report jamee1 November 19, 2025 4:42 PM GMT
TTT
Report kjansch November 20, 2025 4:19 PM GMT
and again at Newcastle
Report hulk23 November 20, 2025 4:39 PM GMT
aye its strange how its went from re-opening nearly every photo seconds after they past the line to a minute or not at all.

only strange thing on here is paudy's involvement in all of this nonsense, and moving the markets, placing bets himself with knowledge nobody else has access to.  when all he should be doing is taking his 2% commission and keeping the place running.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps November 20, 2025 4:56 PM GMT
who do we complain to?
Report kjansch November 20, 2025 5:09 PM GMT
https://x.com/MaltaGamingAuth
Report hulk23 November 20, 2025 5:18 PM GMT
who do we complain to?

whoever goes in and makes sure he's not up to all sorts of sh!t.  ie nobody. 

you could mention it to KPMG, they'll ask Fiona to have a look at photo finish irregularities next time she goes in for the audit, fully equipped with her Bsc in Agriculture Plant Science from the University of Bedfordshire.
Report uptheirons November 20, 2025 6:36 PM GMT
Let's be fair here.
There is next to no peer to peer betting in the main on the I/R.
Do you really expect BF to bare their chuffers on photo betting that is a foregone conclusion?
This is how it is now and has been for some considerable time
Report hulk23 November 20, 2025 6:41 PM GMT
if they're doing anything other than putting the markets up and taking their 2% i would suggest it is illegal.  given they have information not freely available to other players on the site. 

but this was never fully addressed when they took over because everyone assumed all they were doing was running the place.   not using it as another income stream.
Report uptheirons November 20, 2025 6:57 PM GMT
They are Bookmakers and,like everybody are perfectly to participate in the Markets,Hulk.
You don't have to like it but you must accept it
Report Rico-Dangleflaps November 20, 2025 7:53 PM GMT
the 5 figgas went in instantly on the Aramis Grey foto..£8,000 matched 101...cud easily have went up the swanee...of course if theie own money backing and matching its no harm done.
Report hulk23 November 20, 2025 7:55 PM GMT
they have a licence to operate an exchange, does that extend to being the biggest player on the exchange ?  and is it fair that they operate within the exchange with information that is not freely available to other player on the exchange.  thereby creating a very uneven playing field.  some may even level it as insider trading, that being the illegal practice of trading on the exchange to one's own advantage through having access to confidential information.
Report hulk23 November 20, 2025 7:57 PM GMT
if i know Rico constantly punts horses that shorten, and i own the exchange, i can simply mark his account and track his bets with my own.  Nobody else can do that.  How is that fair and equitable ?
Report uptheirons November 20, 2025 8:04 PM GMT
It is called business,Hulk.
You don't have to like it(anymore than I like boatloads of illegal immigrants landing here and being accommodated in Hotels at our expense)
Report TameTheTiger November 20, 2025 8:14 PM GMT
nobody on betfair constantly punts horses that shorten. its easy to do with a bookie, and i got booted for it.on here the price can go either way at any given moment.you just have to wait for the lemmings to follow each other over the cliff.
p.s another 40 bagged at suthell
Report hulk23 November 20, 2025 8:19 PM GMT
paudy's traders can move the prices anyway they want, the majority of the dosh on the interface belongs to him.  if he wants to move one 22.0 to 7.4 (like he did earlier) he simply deletes all the dosh he's got up to lay it and it collapses.  industry follows.
Report hulk23 November 20, 2025 8:25 PM GMT
if you lay one for £50 at 11.5 and stick a back in at 12.0.   he can see that, and it's not allowed.  so he'll whip everything from 11.5 to 9.4 and you're either left with your 11.5 lay or you can red up at 9.4. 

the consequence of that is in the bookies it goes 10/1 to 15/2.  with zilch punted on it.
Report TameTheTiger November 20, 2025 8:26 PM GMT
but then everything else would go bigger including the probable winner, so they pay out more
Report hulk23 November 20, 2025 8:28 PM GMT
he's not bothered.
Report hulk23 November 20, 2025 8:33 PM GMT
if you try to lay and back, or back and lay the same horse.  that's the holy grail, he's not running an exchange so someone can come on and lock in a profit.  somewhere along the line he's said we're not letting that happen.  and yes, some poor s0d probably put his hand up and said yeah, but then everything else will go bigger including the probable winner, so we'll have to pay out more.  paudy just looked at him, and said i don't give a sh!t.  nobody is locking in a fkng profit on my exchange, back to work.
Report TameTheTiger November 20, 2025 8:47 PM GMT
neither is anyone else. good night.
Report kjansch November 20, 2025 9:10 PM GMT
there are two problems with the they are a bookmaker argument

one is the terms and conditions of the betfair exchange stating betting is peer to peer

second is that it is supposed to be an exchange not a sportsbook



the other problem is that nobody is supposed to be using any bot which can place multiple bets simultaneously on multiple selections - the bot running the pricing on here is doing that in every single race - that's where all your big priced winners  for pence are coming from.- thats a no go in the terms and conditions too .

THe existential question is - no exchange equals no winners- but long term winners have paid to use the exchange on a peer to peer basis- can the host company interfere with known customers betting habits on the basis that if they take away the service then there will be no winning for anybody- that sounds like an abuse of power to me and i cant see how that adds up with any of their terms and conditions

so are you prepared to suck it up and then be allowed to bet in some races - i cant see how this can be rationalised from the terms and conditions - there should not be patterns to events other than random ones- it is supposed to be a horse race not a simulated sportbook where money is poured in five minutes before the start and horses get traded by a host bot knowing they are also laying the price and cannot lose
Report Rico-Dangleflaps November 20, 2025 9:20 PM GMT
and how exactly could anyone prove any wrongdoin?
Report kjansch November 23, 2025 2:39 PM GMT
they just re opend the 227 at Punchestown straight away before any photo could be possibly called
Report Rico-Dangleflaps November 23, 2025 2:45 PM GMT
its different every day..no slo mo in ire of course.
Report kjansch November 23, 2025 2:53 PM GMT
was there even a photo called? i did not hear anything
Report Rico-Dangleflaps November 23, 2025 2:53 PM GMT
won a nck so cant see why there would..saying that the winner was 1.03 and wasnt even close.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps November 23, 2025 3:18 PM GMT
that was 1.04 10 secs after past line exeter..didnt susp
Report kjansch November 23, 2025 3:18 PM GMT
just reopeend the 311 at Exeter after the result was announced - doesnt look very good does it
Report Rico-Dangleflaps November 23, 2025 3:44 PM GMT
paddis workers are just incompetent.
Report kjansch November 24, 2025 1:12 PM GMT
reopening while the result is being announced and the places announced  adn the nsettling the win market after the stewards is clearly announced
Report Rico-Dangleflaps November 24, 2025 1:24 PM GMT
Warrackhúnt
@Warrackhúnt
was obvious there was interference yet you settle the market instantly and take 5 mins to re-open the market...Betfair you lot really are becoming an embarrassment.
Report kjansch November 24, 2025 2:03 PM GMT
In my opinion the only point in getting in touch with Betfair on twitter/X is to give them negative publicity
Report Rico-Dangleflaps November 24, 2025 2:03 PM GMT
hin deed.
Report kjansch November 24, 2025 2:19 PM GMT
and again the 208 no photo and market reopens and trades for 20-30 seconds Excited
Report uptheirons November 24, 2025 2:21 PM GMT
Never question good fortune when it occurs
Report kjansch November 26, 2025 7:34 PM GMT
1.65 last price  Justcallmepete, wins a whisker but betfair dont reopen at all
Report Rico-Dangleflaps November 26, 2025 7:56 PM GMT
https://media.britishhorseracing.com/images/photofinish/hireswatermark/2025_27774_0_33707.jpg

won sh hd but should hace re-opened.
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