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pointless after the slo-mo

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By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 17 Nov 25 15:01
some opened seconds after past line..other minute later or not at all..they are just fur king hopeless.
By:
jamee1
When: 17 Nov 25 15:01
Very annoying! Angry
By:
jamee1
When: 17 Nov 25 15:08
Why they don't just suspend and immediately reopen every race automatically for a set period? There's always volume wanting to get on for greening/photo/stewards etc.
By:
duffy
When: 17 Nov 25 15:15
The ones where you think youve got the correct opinion that is likey against the grain....are always delayed!!
By:
kjansch
When: 17 Nov 25 15:50
why would anyone be waiting for the slo mo to be shown before reopening
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 17 Nov 25 15:51
all RTV pics arnt on line.
By:
jamee1
When: 19 Nov 25 15:19
TTT
By:
kjansch
When: 19 Nov 25 15:22
again waiting for the slo mo to be shown before reopening the photo market..
By:
uptheirons
When: 19 Nov 25 15:23
BF don't even want to risk £100 on non risk photos
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 19 Nov 25 16:19
aye its strange how its went from re-opening nearly every photo seconds after they past the line to a minute or not at all.
By:
jamee1
When: 19 Nov 25 16:42
TTT
By:
kjansch
When: 20 Nov 25 16:19
and again at Newcastle
By:
hulk23
When: 20 Nov 25 16:39
aye its strange how its went from re-opening nearly every photo seconds after they past the line to a minute or not at all.

only strange thing on here is paudy's involvement in all of this nonsense, and moving the markets, placing bets himself with knowledge nobody else has access to.  when all he should be doing is taking his 2% commission and keeping the place running.
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 20 Nov 25 16:56
who do we complain to?
By:
kjansch
When: 20 Nov 25 17:09
https://x.com/MaltaGamingAuth
By:
hulk23
When: 20 Nov 25 17:18
who do we complain to?

whoever goes in and makes sure he's not up to all sorts of sh!t.  ie nobody. 

you could mention it to KPMG, they'll ask Fiona to have a look at photo finish irregularities next time she goes in for the audit, fully equipped with her Bsc in Agriculture Plant Science from the University of Bedfordshire.
By:
uptheirons
When: 20 Nov 25 18:36
Let's be fair here.
There is next to no peer to peer betting in the main on the I/R.
Do you really expect BF to bare their chuffers on photo betting that is a foregone conclusion?
This is how it is now and has been for some considerable time
By:
hulk23
When: 20 Nov 25 18:41
if they're doing anything other than putting the markets up and taking their 2% i would suggest it is illegal.  given they have information not freely available to other players on the site. 

but this was never fully addressed when they took over because everyone assumed all they were doing was running the place.   not using it as another income stream.
By:
uptheirons
When: 20 Nov 25 18:57
They are Bookmakers and,like everybody are perfectly to participate in the Markets,Hulk.
You don't have to like it but you must accept it
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 20 Nov 25 19:53
the 5 figgas went in instantly on the Aramis Grey foto..£8,000 matched 101...cud easily have went up the swanee...of course if theie own money backing and matching its no harm done.
By:
hulk23
When: 20 Nov 25 19:55
they have a licence to operate an exchange, does that extend to being the biggest player on the exchange ?  and is it fair that they operate within the exchange with information that is not freely available to other player on the exchange.  thereby creating a very uneven playing field.  some may even level it as insider trading, that being the illegal practice of trading on the exchange to one's own advantage through having access to confidential information.
By:
hulk23
When: 20 Nov 25 19:57
if i know Rico constantly punts horses that shorten, and i own the exchange, i can simply mark his account and track his bets with my own.  Nobody else can do that.  How is that fair and equitable ?
By:
uptheirons
When: 20 Nov 25 20:04
It is called business,Hulk.
You don't have to like it(anymore than I like boatloads of illegal immigrants landing here and being accommodated in Hotels at our expense)
By:
TameTheTiger
When: 20 Nov 25 20:14
nobody on betfair constantly punts horses that shorten. its easy to do with a bookie, and i got booted for it.on here the price can go either way at any given moment.you just have to wait for the lemmings to follow each other over the cliff.
p.s another 40 bagged at suthell
By:
hulk23
When: 20 Nov 25 20:19
paudy's traders can move the prices anyway they want, the majority of the dosh on the interface belongs to him.  if he wants to move one 22.0 to 7.4 (like he did earlier) he simply deletes all the dosh he's got up to lay it and it collapses.  industry follows.
By:
hulk23
When: 20 Nov 25 20:25
if you lay one for £50 at 11.5 and stick a back in at 12.0.   he can see that, and it's not allowed.  so he'll whip everything from 11.5 to 9.4 and you're either left with your 11.5 lay or you can red up at 9.4. 

the consequence of that is in the bookies it goes 10/1 to 15/2.  with zilch punted on it.
By:
TameTheTiger
When: 20 Nov 25 20:26
but then everything else would go bigger including the probable winner, so they pay out more
By:
hulk23
When: 20 Nov 25 20:28
he's not bothered.
By:
hulk23
When: 20 Nov 25 20:33
if you try to lay and back, or back and lay the same horse.  that's the holy grail, he's not running an exchange so someone can come on and lock in a profit.  somewhere along the line he's said we're not letting that happen.  and yes, some poor s0d probably put his hand up and said yeah, but then everything else will go bigger including the probable winner, so we'll have to pay out more.  paudy just looked at him, and said i don't give a sh!t.  nobody is locking in a fkng profit on my exchange, back to work.
By:
TameTheTiger
When: 20 Nov 25 20:47
neither is anyone else. good night.
By:
kjansch
When: 20 Nov 25 21:10
there are two problems with the they are a bookmaker argument

one is the terms and conditions of the betfair exchange stating betting is peer to peer

second is that it is supposed to be an exchange not a sportsbook



the other problem is that nobody is supposed to be using any bot which can place multiple bets simultaneously on multiple selections - the bot running the pricing on here is doing that in every single race - that's where all your big priced winners  for pence are coming from.- thats a no go in the terms and conditions too .

THe existential question is - no exchange equals no winners- but long term winners have paid to use the exchange on a peer to peer basis- can the host company interfere with known customers betting habits on the basis that if they take away the service then there will be no winning for anybody- that sounds like an abuse of power to me and i cant see how that adds up with any of their terms and conditions

so are you prepared to suck it up and then be allowed to bet in some races - i cant see how this can be rationalised from the terms and conditions - there should not be patterns to events other than random ones- it is supposed to be a horse race not a simulated sportbook where money is poured in five minutes before the start and horses get traded by a host bot knowing they are also laying the price and cannot lose
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 20 Nov 25 21:20
and how exactly could anyone prove any wrongdoin?
By:
kjansch
When: 23 Nov 25 14:39
they just re opend the 227 at Punchestown straight away before any photo could be possibly called
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 23 Nov 25 14:45
its different every day..no slo mo in ire of course.
By:
kjansch
When: 23 Nov 25 14:53
was there even a photo called? i did not hear anything
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 23 Nov 25 14:53
won a nck so cant see why there would..saying that the winner was 1.03 and wasnt even close.
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 23 Nov 25 15:18
that was 1.04 10 secs after past line exeter..didnt susp
By:
kjansch
When: 23 Nov 25 15:18
just reopeend the 311 at Exeter after the result was announced - doesnt look very good does it
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 23 Nov 25 15:44
paddis workers are just incompetent.
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