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DancingBraveTheBest
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lay or play?? A difficult one as Henderson not fully firing yet.....has to be a lay surely ??
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Report Storm Alert November 14, 2025 2:35 PM GMT
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Report GLASGOWCALLING November 14, 2025 2:36 PM GMT
Ruby seemed super confident because of the field size and ground conditions, not a Lay for me anyway.
Report tanglefoot November 14, 2025 2:44 PM GMT
Last I looked betting indicated a win,but Nico has lost a bit of confidence,ballooning some of the jumps to prevent another fall,maybe a bet at 2/1
Report madhatters November 14, 2025 2:51 PM GMT
The Jonbon question
How many horses at their peak have had a wind op ?
Jog round today
Or turbo boost
Evens to find out
Small lay
Report brians November 14, 2025 2:54 PM GMT
Several bookies offering 6/4 as opposed to market price 5/6. Do they know something?
Report freddiewilliams November 14, 2025 2:54 PM GMT
Wat books
Report BULLET TOOTH TONY November 14, 2025 2:55 PM GMT
I made this more 5/4, 2/1

So the Skelton horse at 4.7 have to be the bet
Report freddiewilliams November 14, 2025 2:56 PM GMT
356 super. That's a suck in bet for a tenner
Report wondersobright November 14, 2025 3:00 PM GMT
need to start now to win the queen mother
Report brians November 14, 2025 3:01 PM GMT
Sky bet and 365. Mmmm. They knew.
Report brians November 14, 2025 3:01 PM GMT
Sky bet and 365. Mmmm. They knew.
Report BULLET TOOTH TONY November 14, 2025 3:02 PM GMT
Mileage innit
Report impossible123 November 14, 2025 3:02 PM GMT
No Champion Chase surely. The Ryanair at best, or possibly the King George over 3m.
Report Angela Rebecchi November 14, 2025 3:03 PM GMT
LDS primed for today, they smashed on it, never in doubt
Report EL11 November 14, 2025 3:03 PM GMT
Can't jump anymore. Lost his pace. Finished completely knackered. Time to retire.
Report sageform November 14, 2025 3:04 PM GMT
Had a small bet on Libberty Hunter but I have not backed Jonbon for 3 years. I know he has won a lot (nearly all at odds on) but he is past it imo as is his trainer.
Report wondersobright November 14, 2025 3:04 PM GMT
aint had wind op for sh1ts & giggles
Report Storm Alert November 14, 2025 3:06 PM GMT
Another Henderson horse that seems to have lost its mojo. What excuse will Henderson come out with today; turns out it was a serious wind op??
Report HistoricWarwick November 14, 2025 3:07 PM GMT
Not fit IMO.  No chance in Tingle Creek but, a £100k Clarence House however...
Report uptheirons November 14, 2025 3:07 PM GMT
I certainly wouldn't contemplate backing Jonbon after that lifeless performance
Report impossible123 November 14, 2025 3:08 PM GMT
A change of stable or retirement beckons for him or trainer. The horse will not win any prestigious race, I reckon.
Report Storm Alert November 14, 2025 3:08 PM GMT
AND why did L'Eau du Sud, finish so weakly end of last season on good ground?
Report BULLET TOOTH TONY November 14, 2025 3:09 PM GMT
Winner isn’t a mug never was.

Will be one for the winter (not Cheltenham Festival though)
Report impossible123 November 14, 2025 3:12 PM GMT
What will be the excuses from Hendo? The ground, 1st run, the op and a loss of confidence post a few jumping mistakes.
Report uptheirons November 14, 2025 3:12 PM GMT
" A change of Stable"LaughLaughLaugh
A blinder even by Implausible's standards
Report penzance November 14, 2025 3:14 PM GMT
Still never been out the 2.
Report wondersobright November 14, 2025 3:16 PM GMT

Nov 14, 2025 -- 3:14PM, penzance wrote:


Still never been out the 2.


Laugh

Report freddiewilliams November 14, 2025 3:16 PM GMT
Usual con job by Nicolas
Report freddiewilliams November 14, 2025 3:17 PM GMT
A change of stsbleLaugh
Report gemini01 November 14, 2025 3:17 PM GMT
I blamme Mick Fitz and Matt Chappers as they both tipped him up, the ground, 1st run or wind op have zero to with it imo, once they were tipping it!!!!
Report BrittleWish November 14, 2025 3:18 PM GMT
Until Henderson gets rid of Edward Scissorhands who is constantly sending mixed messages to the horse through the reins.He completely bottled it going to the 3rd last and was tugging on the brakes 7 strides from the fence way before seeing a stride.
Report in hell November 14, 2025 3:18 PM GMT
Looked legless at the end and I'm not sure where you go after that with it.
Report SlippyBlue November 14, 2025 3:19 PM GMT
An absolute sickener for placepotters he got second.

Angry
Report CROPSICK November 14, 2025 3:19 PM GMT
Got to agree with that.
Report uptheirons November 14, 2025 3:19 PM GMT
Another mastermind appears in BrittlewishLaugh
Report the old nanny ;-) November 14, 2025 3:24 PM GMT
Surprised ITV didnt have a Jonbon countdown clock running

Dreadful conditions today , first run of season  ,would wait and see before casting judgement

Will agree did not look too promising Sad
Report uptheirons November 14, 2025 3:25 PM GMT
That is an understatement,old nanny
Report paul1965 November 14, 2025 3:31 PM GMT
If it is not henderson it is nicholls who pull these shorties on a regular basis.
Report uptheirons November 14, 2025 3:46 PM GMT
Yes,they just hate to have winners at CheltenhamLaugh
Report paul1965 November 14, 2025 3:56 PM GMT
Children in need have just lost £50 on jonbon lol
Report JohanntheGoatHurdler November 14, 2025 4:00 PM GMT
Seems pig-headed of connections, and potentially detrimental to the horse, to continue running him at a course that he clearly doesn't enjoy.
Report acey deucy November 14, 2025 4:06 PM GMT
Big Discussions
Jonbon today.....
Seems pig-headed of connections, and potentially detrimental to the horse, to continue running him at a course that he clearly doesn't enjoy.
Aye he has only won the Race for the last 2 Years.
Report GLASGOWCALLING November 14, 2025 4:11 PM GMT
Seems pig-headed of , and potentially detrimental to the horse, to continue running him at a course that he clearlyconnections doesn't enjoy.


     
Report uptheirons November 14, 2025 4:16 PM GMT
Yes,he clearly hates the CourseLaugh
He has won this very race for the last two seasons
Report A_T November 14, 2025 4:30 PM GMT
best days behind him
Report acey deucy November 14, 2025 4:32 PM GMT
To many battles ffs on the slippery slope noo.Plain
Report jerseyboy November 14, 2025 5:24 PM GMT
Ever thought that a lot of his need a run ??
Report freddiewilliams November 14, 2025 5:39 PM GMT
Especially when he says there 2 weeks behind .....after the  race
Report uptheirons November 14, 2025 5:44 PM GMT
He has had the horse long enough to know how to get it fit first time up and it didn't drift
Report uptheirons November 14, 2025 5:45 PM GMT
Like Constitution Hill,I shall be an observer on their next starts
Report LoyalHoncho November 14, 2025 5:52 PM GMT
I don’t think I’ve ever backed it but I have loved watching it.  Decent fortune today to get second spot but in the past, in defeat, he has shown such guts, which I like.
They all come to an end though.
Talk of a longer trip hints at a degree of desperation.
Report uptheirons November 14, 2025 6:02 PM GMT
It barely put up a 150 today Honcho and was blessed to finish second.
A definite no bet for me when it runs
Report sageform November 14, 2025 7:54 PM GMT
He did win at Aintree over the sharp 2.5 miles so he might stay 2.5 at Huntingdon for instance. Still a no bet for me though unless he goes off at 4 or higher.
Report layemall November 14, 2025 8:02 PM GMT
I trust in Henderson and will not be giving up on Jonbon yet, if he has come out of the race ok. Henderson didn't seem too downhearted when interviewed post race either.
Report uptheirons November 15, 2025 12:16 AM GMT
I trust in God and my own judgement only
Report Coneygree1971 November 15, 2025 1:50 PM GMT

Nov 14, 2025 -- 8:02PM, layemall wrote:


I trust in Henderson and will not be giving up on Jonbon yet, if he has come out of the race ok. Henderson didn't seem too downhearted when interviewed post race either.


He was beaten a long way but that can happen on heavy ground and it was his first run of the year. Would not be put off backing him this season but not as a short priced fav.

Report LoyalHoncho November 15, 2025 1:54 PM GMT
At his normal starting price range and with his in and out actual win record he has never been a worthy bet or play for me.  Has regularly been great to watch though.
Report acey deucy November 15, 2025 1:57 PM GMT
Yes he has taken us on a ride along with Constitution Hill......I will be surprised if any of them win another Race.
Report JohanntheGoatHurdler November 15, 2025 2:06 PM GMT
Record at Cheltenham 2 from 7 (28%).
Record away from Cheltenham 16 from 17(94%).
Report impossible123 November 15, 2025 2:14 PM GMT
Did Hendo not allude to Jonbon would not have appreciated further today after having spoken to de Boinville post the race? If so Ryanair would be an unlikely agenda either; Champion Chase will be too pacey, and a proven nemesis too.

What's it with Hendo? Altior had had his quirks, similarly Shishkin. And, Jonbon is looking that way inclined too. I cannot see Jonbon coming back after yesterday.
Report impossible123 November 15, 2025 2:18 PM GMT
I forgot to include Constitution Hill. Btw Jonbon is 11/4 for the Tingle Creek. Anyone tempted? Odds-on to nearly 3x yesterday's.
Report JohanntheGoatHurdler November 15, 2025 2:32 PM GMT
Wrong course, wrong ground, horse only half fit.
No excuse for bringing a horse to the course half fit.
First 2 in the big handicap today both coming back from a break.
Report impossible123 November 15, 2025 8:27 PM GMT
Hendo:"I know people will say they've heard it all before but when I see Constitution Hill now, he's suddenly developed quality."

Is the man for real? Altior and Shishkin were phenomenal horses. Then, they developed a case of quirkiness and indifference to the game. Similarly, Constitution Hill (last season). Jonbon (?).
Report uptheirons November 15, 2025 8:34 PM GMT
It is always wise to believe what you see rather than what you hear
Report LoyalHoncho November 15, 2025 9:52 PM GMT
Couldn’t agree more.  Has always been my way too.  I still admire Jonbon though.  His determination and consistency make him a stand out for me.  If it’s over it’s just the way it goes.
Report freddiewilliams January 17, 2026 3:45 PM GMT
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